T0mShane Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Dennis Waszak: One thing on #Jets' depth charts: They have every player color-coded by contract status, so they're constantly evaluating play/salary. Please tell me this is common practice and not just some backwards-ass accountant bullsh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Please tell me this is common practice and not just some backwards-ass accountant bullsh*t. idk but it makes some sense. cutting a player is not always solely dependant upon his on the field contribution. sometimes it does or doesn't make sense to cut a player because of the cap hit or lack thereof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Sounds serious, as usual. First no blocking TE, no great second RB, no great RT, and now color coded depth charts....Tannenbomb just don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsouth Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 If it had any relevance to play, ya that's weird. It might be a nifty way to overview seeing if you're getting the most out of your high dollar boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 It looks to me like contract status is more a determinant of what year in the contract they are in ie. walk year, and less of how much they are getting paid. Could be wrong, but I don't see why it matters that someone decided to color-code it. It's not like without the code, the FO and Tanny are oblivious to everyone's contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 Sounds serious, as usual. First no blocking TE, no great second RB, no great RT, and now color coded depth charts....Tannenbomb just don't understand. Gotta pause here, because I've seen you type this a few times. Is it your position that not having a right tackle, not having a tight end that can run block, and not having a legit option at running back behind the perpetually dinged-up Shonn Greene are not issues in a run-first offense? Or is this just a sly, back-handed continuation of your drug-induced allegiance to Brian Schottenheimer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Cool, now I can add a box of crayons to my visualization of Tanny at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Well I for one am outraged. Much like this guy, but worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 didn't you watch hard knocks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 this aint breaking news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 didn't you watch hard knocks ? I dont think he did. He hates the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Please tell me this is common practice and not just some backwards-ass accountant bullsh*t. It's true. Sanchez starts all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Cool, now I can add a box of crayons to my visualization of Tanny at work lol funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Gotta pause here, because I've seen you type this a few times. Is it your position that not having a right tackle, not having a tight end that can run block, and not having a legit option at running back behind the perpetually dinged-up Shonn Greene are not issues in a run-first offense? Or is this just a sly, back-handed continuation of your drug-induced allegiance to Brian Schottenheimer? Oh horsesh*t and you know it. The only reason they say they're a run first offense is because it's literally impossible for them to say otherwise. They can't just outright say they have no offense and saying they have a passing offense is just as big of a lie. Nobody *wants* to be a run-first offense anymore, for good reason. Rebuilding one every few years is just as dumb as putting all their money on Sanchez, but with far less of a potential payoff. They've had blocking TEs - Hartstock, Mulligan, whoever was before Hartstock - and all those guys sucked (and committed way too many penalties). RT is a league wide issue - Anthony Davis, Michael Oher, Jeremy Trueblood, Levi Brown, Clary...I could keep going...Pears, Newton, Franklin, Giacomini...probably more...all turnstiles on hopefuls and contenders this year. This team does not get significantly better by landing another Ben Hartstock, a more proven backup RB, or a more proven RT (wherever that guy happen to be). That's not enough to cover what ails this team so why pretend it does and build a slower offense? It doesn't work. It didn't work during those magical, incomplete runs in '09 and '10, and it didn't work for the Ravens (who were trying to get away from it when they drafted Smith) or 49ers (who went and grabbed Jenkins and Moss this year) last year despite both of them doing strong jobs executing that offense. That's not even to mention that Tebow isn't a bad 2nd RB and last year's backup OL are bigger, more athletic, and have had more playing time in the league than last year's group. Plus Mangold's back and healthy and there isn't a better individual OLman in the league except maybe Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Oh, and football teams should think this way. There's so much roster turnover in this league year to year that it would be stupid to not have your contracts visually categorized somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Its relatively common in the NFL. They run all kinds of variations during camps and stuff and they need to know the contracts at a moments notice to put things in perspective. Most teams will have had a board up for 2013 during 2012 camp as well to drive home where they see the future and what impact cap can play on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Please tell me this is common practice and not just some backwards-ass accountant bullsh*t. tom, as you can see by the chart in my pic, the depth chart doesn't seem to have any color dominating the starting positions. it's just a way to look at the FUTURE of the club, where you may be vulnerable to a big hit due to losing FA's or control over a player. it's not a good idea to have a bunch of players you don't have control over at any one position or even one side of the ball but you knew that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Cool, now I can add a box of crayons to my visualization of Tanny at work It all makes so much sense now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu8YkneQEfM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Oh, and football teams should think this way. There's so much roster turnover in this league year to year that it would be stupid to not have your contracts visually categorized somehow. I think Tannebaum is a disaster. But salary status in a cap system has to be a consideration. It may be the one thing our GM is actually good at, but it probably is either an NFL-wide practice or at least something every GM has documented someplace about every NFL roster.Surprised it's on a grease board rather than in some spreadsheet program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Not to do with this thread as much but I have a terrible feeling about this season. Like I just stepped onto the Titanic terrible. Like a deep rooted, heavy gut feeling bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Next thing you know, there will be a salary cap and players will have agents! Oh, the humanity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Please tell me this is common practice and not just some backwards-ass accountant bullsh*t. You are going to have a tougher time pretending you know football posting crap like this. I hope you were under the influence when you posted this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knix Tix Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 You are going to have a tougher time pretending you know football posting crap like this. I hope you were under the influence when you posted this crap. Tougher time? We already know he doesn't know football. You must skip 90% of his posts if you don't know that by now ECURB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 Oh horsesh*t and you know it. The only reason they say they're a run first offense is because it's literally impossible for them to say otherwise. They can't just outright say they have no offense and saying they have a passing offense is just as big of a lie. Nobody *wants* to be a run-first offense anymore, for good reason. Rebuilding one every few years is just as dumb as putting all their money on Sanchez, but with far less of a potential payoff. They've had blocking TEs - Hartstock, Mulligan, whoever was before Hartstock - and all those guys sucked (and committed way too many penalties). RT is a league wide issue - Anthony Davis, Michael Oher, Jeremy Trueblood, Levi Brown, Clary...I could keep going...Pears, Newton, Franklin, Giacomini...probably more...all turnstiles on hopefuls and contenders this year. This team does not get significantly better by landing another Ben Hartstock, a more proven backup RB, or a more proven RT (wherever that guy happen to be). That's not enough to cover what ails this team so why pretend it does and build a slower offense? It doesn't work. It didn't work during those magical, incomplete runs in '09 and '10, and it didn't work for the Ravens (who were trying to get away from it when they drafted Smith) or 49ers (who went and grabbed Jenkins and Moss this year) last year despite both of them doing strong jobs executing that offense. That's not even to mention that Tebow isn't a bad 2nd RB and last year's backup OL are bigger, more athletic, and have had more playing time in the league than last year's group. Plus Mangold's back and healthy and there isn't a better individual OLman in the league except maybe Thomas. To recap: the Jets offense is going to suck regardless, and right tackles are hard to find, and Tebow, so f%ck it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 To recap: the Jets offense is going to suck regardless, and right tackles are hard to find, and Tebow, so f%ck it. Not sure I can tell you how I really feel about your stance, just yet....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 Its relatively common in the NFL. They run all kinds of variations during camps and stuff and they need to know the contracts at a moments notice to put things in perspective. Most teams will have had a board up for 2013 during 2012 camp as well to drive home where they see the future and what impact cap can play on it. Thanks. I saw that tweet used in context with a mention of Rex saying to "ask Tannenbaum" if Dixon was cut to save some money. I had never seen that before. Obviously, cap ramifications would play a role in crafting the final roster, but I didn't realize that those ramifications are factored in on a day-to-day basis like that. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 Not sure I can tell you how I really feel about your stance, just yet....lol That's my summation of Gato's post. I'm trying to get him to yell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 To recap: the Jets offense is going to suck regardless, and right tackles are hard to find, and Tebow, so f%ck it. Crapshoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 tom, as you can see by the chart in my pic, the depth chart doesn't seem to have any color dominating the starting positions. it's just a way to look at the FUTURE of the club, where you may be vulnerable to a big hit due to losing FA's or control over a player. it's not a good idea to have a bunch of players you don't have control over at any one position or even one side of the ball but you knew that Thanks, Larz. Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 That's my summation of Gato's post. I'm trying to get him to yell. WHat did you think about my Tigers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 You are going to have a tougher time pretending you know football posting crap like this. I hope you were under the influence when you posted this crap. Tougher time? We already know he doesn't know football. You must skip 90% of his posts if you don't know that by now ECURB. If there's a god, Max will see to it that you two get your own podcast immediately. The pure aural magic that will be created between you guys would be, dare I say, stultifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 WHat did you think about my Tigers? I don't watch teams that are going to finish out of the Top 25. Me and afosomf hung out and watched Bama instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 You are going to have a tougher time pretending you know football posting crap like this. I hope you were under the influence when you posted this crap. Deng. Cleveland. Glass. House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 If there's a god, Max will see to it that you two get your own podcast immediately. The pure aural magic that will be created between you guys would be, dare I say, stultifying. Don't be too quick to judge, I think ECURB is crazy too, especially when it comes to Pennington and PSLs lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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