SweetLee83 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm really excited to see this match-up of these two this Sunday...EJ coming off a game winning drive under 2 mins, no timeouts.... It's his first road game though, so it should be interesting...I expect a real low scoring game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 These two are always going to be compared as first two QB's chosen and in the same division- should be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Manuel played well again yesterday, but he also had a strip sack, and an interception in back to back drives. Give him time that Buffalo spirit will over take him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 If you are not noticing just about every QB is coughing up the ball- a result of most teams throwing the ball all over the field and many times -this is your NFL now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Jets links: E.J. Manuel, Stevie Johnson orchestrate last-second victory for Bills Stevie Johnson scored the winning points for the Bills Sunday against the Panthers. (Kevin Hoffman/USA Today Sports) Michael J. Fensom/The Star-Ledger By Michael J. Fensom/The Star-Ledger Follow on Twitter on September 16, 2013 at 6:00 AM, updated September 16, 2013 at 6:08 AM It's not quite Kelly to Reed, yet. The Buffalo Bills, the Jets' Week 3 opponent, beat the Carolina Panthers Sunday with two seconds remaining. The winning strike left the hand of the quarterback E.J. Manuel and reached the wide receiver Stevie Johnson just before the clock expired. The winning point came off the foot of Dan Carpenter, the kicker who spent a couple days in Jets camp prior to the start of the season. For Johnson, the game marked redemption, the Buffalo News writes. 1,020 days ago, Johnson dropped a potential game-winning catch against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Johnson had eight catches for 111 yards Sunday, and a connection with Manuel is starting to emerge. "I think we grew up in a week,” Johnson said. “I’m proud of this team.” Johnson, of course, is responsible for one of the greatest NFL touchdown celebrations ever. Speaking of Kelly, the legendary Bills quarterback was honored during halftime of Sunday's game. Afterward, he found Manuel, the rookie quarterback, and congratulated him on his first NFL victory. Manuel was in tears after the game, and got a hug from his father, too, after leading the 80-yard, game-winning drive. Another dynamic weapon in the Bills offense, C.J. Spiller got untracked Sunday. The running back rushed for over 100 yards on 16 carries. Mario Williams, the Bills' defensive end, set a franchise record with 4.5 sacks of Cam Newton. Watch out, Geno. The Bills pressured Newton all afternoon. JETS FAN FORUM -- A day-long discussion of the Jets begins today at 11 a.m. on NJ.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Agree it should be an interesting matchup. Manuel is playing just fine for a rookie in his first couple of games. But if not for ridiculously blown coverage - really, NON-coverage - on his primary read, then Manuel is the reason for a loss yesterday. The game-winning drive = three dumpoffs, Carolina letting Stevie Johnson gain yards & get OOB, then giving Buffalo a free extra 20 yards plus stopping the clock with a meatheaded PI play, when Manuel threw a pick into quadruple-coverage that never would have been completed (even if it miraculously wasn't picked off). Again, he's just a rookie, but the heros of the game for Buffalo were Spiller, Johnson, Mario, plus the Panthers coaches & players on that last drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm really excited to see this match-up of these two this Sunday...EJ coming off a game winning drive under 2 mins, no timeouts.... It's his first road game though, so it should be interesting...I expect a real low scoring game. Ok, credit where it's due, when I first saw this thread title I thought you were coming over here to be a gloating douche. Glad to see I was wrong, because otherwise I intended to organize a neg-rep bombing of epic proportions. Yeah, this should certainly be an interesting game that could easily go either way. I don't expect any particularly epic performances from either QB, as Geno has clearly had his struggles and if you've got to give Rex credit for anything, he's certainly the kind of guy who can put together a defensive plan that can make a rookie QB's head spin. Turnovers will ultimately be the key for either side. But hey, the good news is at least neither of our rookies are the most turnover-prone QB in NY, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I wish we had CJ Spiller and Steve Johnson around our QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I wish we had CJ Spiller and Steve Johnson around our QB. ...and Carolina begging us to take the win from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 ...and Carolina begging us to take the win from them. We the Patriots weren't exactly commanding in their win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 You'd have to think that Rex will have Manuel's head spinning all afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Usernames can become funny in retrospect. Lee Evans, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 You'd have to think that Rex will have Manuel's head spinning all afternoon. yeah I agree I like Manuel as a rookie QB, After the Panthers game it was reported Manuel was crying with joy. Next week Rex is going to have him crying again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 You'd have to think that Rex will have Manuel's head spinning all afternoon. Damn you concise people with your stupid short posts stealing what I say and no one noticing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetLee83 Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 Agree it should be an interesting matchup. Manuel is playing just fine for a rookie in his first couple of games. But if not for ridiculously blown coverage - really, NON-coverage - on his primary read, then Manuel is the reason for a loss yesterday. The game-winning drive = three dumpoffs, Carolina letting Stevie Johnson gain yards & get OOB, then giving Buffalo a free extra 20 yards plus stopping the clock with a meatheaded PI play, when Manuel threw a pick into quadruple-coverage that never would have been completed (even if it miraculously wasn't picked off). Again, he's just a rookie, but the heros of the game for Buffalo were Spiller, Johnson, Mario, plus the Panthers coaches & players on that last drive. I noticed you left off his 10 yard run to get out of bounds at the 2, to set up the winning touchdown after he escaped. There were lots of short passes, yes, and it worked great. The coverages the Panthers were using weren't allowing deep passes, and with no timeouts, they were getting chunks of yards, getting out of bounds, or making it so they could get right up to the line of scrimmage and get another play off, not spiking the ball once. I'll be curious to hear your excuses next week, if Buffalo wins in New Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetLee83 Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 ...and Carolina begging us to take the win from them. Just like the Bucs handed you the game Week 1. Funny how it works, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I noticed you left off his 10 yard run to get out of bounds at the 2, to set up the winning touchdown after he escaped. There were lots of short passes, yes, and it worked great. The coverages the Panthers were using weren't allowing deep passes, and with no timeouts, they were getting chunks of yards, getting out of bounds, or making it so they could get right up to the line of scrimmage and get another play off, not spiking the ball once. I'll be curious to hear your excuses next week, if Buffalo wins in New Jersey. There's the SweetLee we all know and love! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I wish we had CJ Spiller and Steve Johnson around our QB. Manuel's weapons : CJ Spiller and Stevie Johnson Geno's "weapons" : Clyde Gates and Stephen Hill Gee, I wonder who has the advantage there......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Just like the Bucs handed you the game Week 1. Funny how it works, huh? Solid truth. Both teams played a close one with the Pats. Sunday going to be fun. I say +5 is the over under on combined turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I noticed you left off his 10 yard run to get out of bounds at the 2, to set up the winning touchdown after he escaped. There were lots of short passes, yes, and it worked great. The coverages the Panthers were using weren't allowing deep passes, and with no timeouts, they were getting chunks of yards, getting out of bounds, or making it so they could get right up to the line of scrimmage and get another play off, not spiking the ball once. I'll be curious to hear your excuses next week, if Buffalo wins in New Jersey. My excuses? Threw into quadruple coverage - actually OVERthrew into quadruple coverage - and it was picked off by the safety. So it was a 20 yard gain PLUS stopping the clock even though Manuel made a horrible throw. Then the winning TD the exact receiver he was targeting was left completely un-covered. But sure, it was a little scamper that was the reason for the win. The scamper OOB would have meant nothing if Carolina didn't hand them a free 20 yards, a free timeout, and then a free touchdown. Just like the Bucs handed you the game Week 1. Funny how it works, huh? Of course Tampa handed us the game at the end in week 1. Just as Carolina handed Buffalo the game yesterday. The difference is that I'm not claiming otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 im pretty high on manuel actually. looks like he will be a pretty good player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 These two are always going to be compared as first two QB's chosen and in the same division- should be interesting yeah that should last about a year or 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Solid truth. Both teams played a close one with the Pats. Sunday going to be fun. I say +5 is the over under on combined turnovers. Yeah which rookie QB can make the least mistakes wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Yeah which rookie QB can make the least mistakes wins Pretty much. It will once again, just like the last few years, come down to turnovers. If the Jets dont turn it over, they can beat anyone, if they do, they can lose to anyone. Its amazing what holding on to the Football does for a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Also we need to control Spiller from breaking long runs like he did last year against us. Unfortunately we do not have any back comparable threat to take it the distance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Spiller's a beast. Both the Jets and Bills have great front 7's. Secondaries are meh, especially with Gilmore out. Jets need to feed Ivory and hold onto the football...obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Just like the Bucs handed you the game Week 1. Funny how it works, huh? Nobody handed us anything. First, the only reason Tampa Bay got their field goal to go ahead was a muiffed tackle by Dawan Landry on the receiver. Landry went for the strip, missed, and Vincent Jackson goes downfield 30+ yards. Second, Tampa Bay hits Geno after he runs out of bounds on the Tampa 45 with 7 seconds left. 15 yard penalty gives us the relatively easy field goal range. However, it usually only takes 5 or 6 seconds to complete a short pass out of bounds. Sure, Tampa Bay will be guarding the sidelines and deep, but they wouldn't be guarding very short passes of 5 yards or so. We can send receivers downfield to draw defensive penalties-and-send a receiver or two just past the five yard line for a gain of 7 or 8 yards. TB probably will allow that much, and it sets up a 54 yard field goal attempt. In perfect weather on a day the ball is sailing long distances. Not a sure thing, but Geno and the Jets had a fair shot of still getting that field goal even without the penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Nobody handed us anything. First, the only reason Tampa Bay got their field goal to go ahead was a muiffed tackle by Dawan Landry on the receiver. Landry went for the strip, missed, and Vincent Jackson goes downfield 30+ yards. Second, Tampa Bay hits Geno after he runs out of bounds on the Tampa 45 with 7 seconds left. 15 yard penalty gives us the relatively easy field goal range. However, it usually only takes 5 or 6 seconds to complete a short pass out of bounds. Sure, Tampa Bay will be guarding the sidelines and deep, but they wouldn't be guarding very short passes of 5 yards or so. We can send receivers downfield to draw defensive penalties-and-send a receiver or two just past the five yard line for a gain of 7 or 8 yards. TB probably will allow that much, and it sets up a 54 yard field goal attempt. In perfect weather on a day the ball is sailing long distances. Not a sure thing, but Geno and the Jets had a fair shot of still getting that field goal even without the penalty. I'm glad somebody else made this point. While TB certainly made the Jets' life faaaar easier, Folk's FG would have been good from beyond 48 and the Jets could and would have run one more offensive play if not for that penalty, so it's a hardly a sure thing the Jets would have lost otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm glad somebody else made this point. While TB certainly made the Jets' life faaaar easier, Folk's FG would have been good from beyond 48 and the Jets could and would have run one more offensive play if not for that penalty, so it's a hardly a sure thing the Jets would have lost otherwise. No it is not a sure thing. But it's quite likely we would have lost. That being said, I think kelticwizard's point (or part of it anyway) is that there were mental farts made by both teams. But somehow the only one that counts is the final one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 LEE I'm impressed with manuel. it started with him coming back so soon from the procudure and he showed some guts yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Damn you concise people with your stupid short posts stealing what I say and no one noticing. The key to being good on the Internet is realizing that your entire audience has ADHD and drinks Red Bull all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 The key to being good on the Internet is realizing that your entire audience has ADHD and drinks Red Bull all day. The definition of a Jet fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Yeah which rookie QB can make the least mistakes wins Pretty much. Should be fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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