Lupz27 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm pretty sure this is Rex saying whatever is necessary to take the pressure off his players, and place it all on himself like he has done for the last 5 years, Rex believes if all the critical attacks are directed at him, then his players will feel less pressure, like it, or not this has always been a huge coaching strategy of his. I think that comment was said with that intention. Now the big question is does this extend into the locker room, Rex has to hold players accountable when they are not executing properly, and the it's my fault comments need to be just for show in the media, but privately players need to know they are at fault, and it needs to be fixed, or you will find the pine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Rex just discovered the key to great QB's - do not turn the ball over. What a coach But also, to not TELL his QB to not turn the ball over. Cause you know, that'll make him do it. #accountability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Not even close. Sanchez interviews like a petulant child with wandering eyes, all shucks persona, stupid grins and constant shrugs. An immature Cali kid with zero leadership skills. Geno has a dead straight on persona who carries himself with all the right body language, stature and eye contact. Te actual words they speak is like EVERY NFL player. They're all taught what to say, not how to say it Granted the sh*tty production is the same thus far, not saying Geno has what it takes but his mental make up and how he holds himself and responds to the media is light years from what I saw from Sanchez for 4 years. Different styles, same substance -- of lack thereof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 a robot made of poo maybeLiterally laughed out loud.....nicely done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 If Geno were a robot he'd be a fax machine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 I don't know where this idea came from that Smith played well in the beginning of the season, or has been on a roller coaster ride until a month ago. Lets look at his QBR for the first 10 weeks. I know that most of you know how the QBR works, but for those who don't it is a complicated formula on a scale of from 0 to 100. Much like school test scores. Here's his QBR for the first 8 games. 1) 48.5 2)15.0 3) 85.8 4) 7.8 5) 73.2 6) 6.5 7)38.9 8)4.1 One really good week 85.8 one Good week 73.2 The rest are pure garbage. Smith is having an extremely crappy season. Rookie or not that is a very bad performance even in the beginning of the season. Some of them are unbelievably bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I don't know where this idea came from that Smith played well in the beginning of the season, or has been on a roller coaster ride until a month ago. Lets look at his QBR for the first 10 weeks. I know that most of you know how the QBR works, but for those who don't it is a complicated formula on a scale of from 0 to 100. Much like school test scores. Here's his QBR for the first 8 games. 1) 48.5 2)15.0 3) 85.8 4) 7.8 5) 73.2 6) 6.5 7)38.9 8)4.1 One really good week 85.8 one Good week 73.2 The rest are pure garbage. Smith is having an extremely crappy season. Rookie or not that is a very bad performance even in the beginning of the season. Some of them are unbelievably bad You can argue Smith's poor play in other ways, but using QBR is weak as it's mostly a garbage stat to begin with. This is the same system that handed Dan Orlovksy and Tyler Thigpens, they of the 0-7 and 1-10 records respectively, to a better QBR than super bowl winning Ben Roethlisberger in 2008. There numbers: Orlovsky: 144-255 (56.1%) 1616 yards, 6.3 Y/A, 8 tds 8 ints. 72.6 QB rating, 47.98 QBR Thigpen: 230-420 (54.8%) 2608 yards, 6.2 Y/A, 18 tds, 12 ints, 76.0 QB Rating, 47.67 QBR Roethlisberger: 281-469 (60%) 3301 yards, 7.0 Y/A, 17 tds, 15 ints, 80.1 QB Rating, 46.82 While one of Big Ben's worst regular seasons, it's clear how much better his play was, something that the under-appreciated QB rating showed. If you look at Geno's QB ratings, you'll see that he had one great game (147.7), two good games(89.9 and 88.6), two solid games (80.6 & 79.2) and then some abysmal and subpar games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I don't know where this idea came from that Smith played well in the beginning of the season, or has been on a roller coaster ride until a month ago. Lets look at his QBR for the first 10 weeks. I know that most of you know how the QBR works, but for those who don't it is a complicated formula on a scale of from 0 to 100. Much like school test scores. Here's his QBR for the first 8 games. 1) 48.5 2)15.0 3) 85.8 4) 7.8 5) 73.2 6) 6.5 7)38.9 8)4.1 One really good week 85.8 one Good week 73.2 The rest are pure garbage. Smith is having an extremely crappy season. Rookie or not that is a very bad performance even in the beginning of the season. Some of them are unbelievably bad Geno Smith, QB rating, first five games: 80.6 27.6 89.9 79.2 147.7 Peyton Manning, first five games: 58.6 51.1 39.3 63.2 66.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Different styles, same substance -- of lack thereof.i don't know yet about Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 this is a ******* joke. he played like sh*t, plain and simple. the reason for that is that he most likely doesn't possess the right skill set to be a successful nfl quarterback. it's beyond ridiculous that moron rex ryan suggests that he might have been detrimental to geno because he told him not to turn the ball over. I hate rex ryan and I hate geno smith. it does not help that his best player on O is his center give the kid a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 thank you for that god i had tears that is funny!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 i don't know yet about Geno. You know, earlier in the year I said I thought Geno handled himself very well, and better than Mex, when it came to interviews. And, I really felt that way at first. Then the seemingly mindless repetition completely flipped me. We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 That sh*tty coach Rex Ryan, asking his QB to reduce the turnovers. DUMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Actually it is SUPER DUMB. You want your QB to not make turnovers but concentrating on the turnovers creates the opposite effect. You want your QB to make plays. To play aggressively but smart. This is HUGELY different than negatively reinforcing your QB to not make a turnover which makes him more and more cautious. Timid QBs are easy to read and more likely to throw picks. You are dead wrong on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bitonti Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I don't know where this idea came from that Smith played well in the beginning of the season, or has been on a roller coaster ride until a month ago. Lets look at his QBR for the first 10 weeks. I know that most of you know how the QBR works, but for those who don't it is a complicated formula on a scale of from 0 to 100. Much like school test scores. Here's his QBR for the first 8 games. 1) 48.5 2)15.0 3) 85.8 4) 7.8 5) 73.2 6) 6.5 7)38.9 8)4.1 One really good week 85.8 one Good week 73.2 The rest are pure garbage. Smith is having an extremely crappy season. Rookie or not that is a very bad performance even in the beginning of the season. Some of them are unbelievably bad ive bashed Geno Smith alot but the 88 QBR in the last game possibly best game of the year. I really think Geno turned the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Geno Smith, QB rating, first five games: 80.6 27.6 89.9 79.2 147.7 Peyton Manning, first five games: 58.6 51.1 39.3 63.2 66.8 can we do the following 8 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ive bashed Geno Smith alot but the 88 QBR in the last game possibly best game of the year. I really think Geno turned the corner. so he played ok against a team who stephen hawking could probably be playing for and you think he turned the corner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ive bashed Geno Smith alot but the 88 QBR in the last game possibly best game of the year. I really think Geno turned the corner. The Raiders are terrible and dropped two or three easy interceptions. Geno has not turned a corner and Sunday will expose that against a real defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 so he played ok against a team who stephen hawking could probably be playing for and you think he turned the corner? flgreen said Geno sucks and has always sucked, and here's the early season numbers to prove it. He was wrong. The problem with Geno is that Rex got lucky in the Pats and Tampa games, got a hard on because the media was kissing his ass again, and decided that he could keep getting his ass kissed if only he could get the quarterback to be a net neutral player, which is when they stopped developing Geno and started trying to hide him. This is why Rex should have been fired in January. His job was to live through the ups and downs of developing a rookie quarterback. Instead, he elected to chase a pipe-dream playoff appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 flgreen said Geno sucks and has always sucked, and here's the early season numbers to prove it. He was wrong. The problem with Geno is that Rex got lucky in the Pats and Tampa games, got a hard on because the media was kissing his ass again, and decided that he could keep getting his ass kissed if only he could get the quarterback to be a net neutral player, which is when they stopped developing Geno and started trying to hide him. This is why Rex should have been fired in January. His job was to live through the ups and downs of developing a rookie quarterback. Instead, he elected to chase a pipe-dream playoff appearance. part of this is true. the part where they tried to hide geno. but the reason, imo, is that geno was bad and is a bad qb in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 so he played ok against a team who stephen hawking could probably be playing for and you think he turned the corner? the key data point isn't the quality of the Raiders. they blitzed a ton and Geno had a half second less than normal to throw compared to his yearly average. He had about 2.5 seconds in the Raiders game and the fact that he was making quick decisions is hugely important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Geno Smith, QB rating, first five games: 80.6 27.6 89.9 79.2 147.7 Peyton Manning, first five games: 58.6 51.1 39.3 63.2 66.8 I totally see Peyton Manning in Geno Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Actually it is SUPER DUMB. You want your QB to not make turnovers but concentrating on the turnovers creates the opposite effect. You want your QB to make plays. To play aggressively but smart. This is HUGELY different than negatively reinforcing your QB to not make a turnover which makes him more and more cautious. Timid QBs are easy to read and more likely to throw picks. You are dead wrong on this Then that player is a mental midget and shouldnt be in the league. Negatviely reinforcing your QB to not make a turnover. lmfao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I totally see Peyton Manning in Geno Smith. I'm sure you've witnessed many dudes inside each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I'm sure you've witnessed many dudes inside each other. My eyes were virgin to it all until you sent me pics of you and dbutt hoping that I'd want to join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 My eyes were virgin to it all until you sent me pics of you and dbutt hoping that I'd want to join. YOU SAID THERE WAS NO FILM IN THAT CAMERA TOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ive bashed Geno Smith alot but the 88 QBR in the last game possibly best game of the year. I really think Geno turned the corner. As in "turned a corner toward the unemployment line?" Good!! Smith sucks - let's get the real franchise quarterback as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 OK Bit thinks Geno turned the corner- this is getting interesting- I give Bit credit he puts his opinions out there for all to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 YOU SAID THERE WAS NO FILM IN THAT CAMERA TOM Trusting TOm was your first mistake, the other stuff....well...cant help ya there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 OK Bit thinks Geno turned the corner- this is getting interesting- I give Bit credit he puts his opinions out there for all to see im more interested in trying (and failing) to predict the future than looking back at those predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 geno is confusing robots with statues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 the key data point isn't the quality of the Raiders. they blitzed a ton and Geno had a half second less than normal to throw compared to his yearly average. He had about 2.5 seconds in the Raiders game and the fact that he was making quick decisions is hugely important. It seems like some of the games this year, Geno has forgotten that he had legs. When he uses them, it seems to loosen him up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 My eyes were virgin to it all until you sent me pics of you and dbutt hoping that I'd want to join. nans.. you're butt has had more large men entering and exiting then the locker room tunnel at Soldier Field.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 We needed: We got: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 "hey kid. just don't **** it up, we'll win the ******* game on defense" rex ryans rookie QB strategery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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