T0mShane Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 From the immaculate Jane McManus FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- As Kellen Winslow Jr. gets ready to face his old team, the Cleveland Browns, the New York Jets tight end is confident he has the upper hand. "Really, they can't guard me," Winslow told ESPNNewYork.com. "That's how I feel, and I can't be guarded, you know?" The 30-year-old Winslow signed a one-year deal with the Jets during the offseason. The Browns drafted Winslow in 2004, and he played there until '08. "Who's going to guard me over there? Nobody," Winslow said. "That's how I feel, and that's how I play the game. That's how you gotta play the game. You've just got to play the game, and that's all." Winslow has played 31 percent of the snaps this season, which includes a four-game suspension for violating the NFL's performance-enhancing substances policy. Despite those limitations, Winslow is fourth on the Jets in receptions and fifth in receiving yards. So, is Winslow just spouting off and creating bulletin board material, like wide receiver Santonio Holmes did last week when he called the Carolina Panthers' secondary their "weakest link"? Those players made Holmes pay for his words by holding him to two catches and 14 yards. Winslow has intimated that he doesn't understand why he doesn't play more for the Jets. It could be grousing, but his offensive coordinator agrees with him. "He should've," Marty Mornhinweg said. "Yeah, it's just that simple." Winslow doesn't practice every day and has been listed on the injury report because of his knees, which have been an issue for him ever since an Ohio motorcycle accident in 2005. Later, Winslow acquired a staph infection and criticized the Browns for the way they handled his injury. "Kellen's still a heck of a player now, great hands, you can see that," Mornhinweg said. "I'm sure he'll be jacked up for this one." Offensive lineman Willie Colon said he knows where Winslow, the son of NFL Hall of Famer Kellen Winslow, gets his intensity. "He's chippy, but we need that," Colon said. "He was birthed into an organization in the AFC North, and that division is all about the 'Bad News Bears' types, we all have a chip on our shoulder. He understands his pedigree, he understands his name and he plays hard." Winslow has been a reliable target, catching 4 of 7 passes thrown his way for 73 yards in the past two games. And he said he's confident that this season he's made a strong case that he belongs in the NFL after being cut from the New England Patriots at the start of 2012. "Oh, for sure," Winslow said. "And that's the name of the game -- when the tape's turned on, I feel good about what I put on tape. Because nobody cares about practice really, it's all about the game on what's on tape. Dealing with politics, this and that, just the game of the game, it's all about Sunday and what you put on tape, and that's what they can go back to." His brashness may make for bulletin board material, but teammates like backup quarterback David Garrard and wide receiver Jeremy Kerley said they love playing with Winslow. Kerley said people look at Winslow "the wrong way." Garrard said it will take rookie quarterback Geno Smith time to use Winslow fully. "He should be a safety blanket for Geno," Garrard said. "That's something that comes with time. And Geno will learn to find guys like that, but right now he's trying to go through all the details of how the coaches are telling him to go through certain reads. He's not at the point where he can just say, 'You know, Kellen should be open right there, I'm going to give him a chance to work right here.'" The Jets will have to decide at the end of the season whether to keep Winslow on the roster for another season. He know what it feels like to miss a year after the Patriots cut him, and it wasn't easy. "I think Kellen has been through a lot physically, with his knee," Colon said. "What he does to get in the game and be on the field is a lot for any player. I think for me, I respect it because he trains hard and does everything he can to give us a fair shot." Winslow gets two more weeks to get it all on tape, but he doesn't seem to lack motivation this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Now we've got the physical cripple shooting his mouth off ... at least he's not physically and mentally crippled like last weeks delusional receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Every opportunity Kellen Winslow had this season he made the best of it the guy comes to play and catches the ball he needed to be more involved in this offense this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 lucky for the browns, Geno can't find him even if he is open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 What is the Browns "weakest link"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Antihistamines is a helluva drug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 When do the cuts start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Guard him? Like in basketball? Anyway, the only thing worse than a losing season is a losing season where players like Winslow and Holmes shoot their mouths off trying desperately to snatch up some relevancy. Lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 It's the roids talkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 LULZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacked4JetsFB Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Rex has total control of his locker room. Holmes last week, Winslow this week. Total control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Rex has total control of his locker room. Holmes last week, Winslow this week. Total control. tanny brought in Holmes. idzik brought in Winslow. It's not Rex Ryan's job to change the personality of grown ass men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacked4JetsFB Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 tanny brought in Holmes. idzik brought in Winslow. It's not Rex Ryan's job to change the personality of grown ass men. You are really delusional, I mean really delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 You are really delusional, I mean really delusional. the only reason we are blaming Rex for Kellen Winslow is because Tanny was already fired and you guys don't want to admit Idzik could have been a bad hire. No NFL coach truly controls his players. Mangini tried. But they are grown ass men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 tanny brought in Holmes. idzik brought in Winslow. It's not Rex Ryan's job to change the personality of grown ass men. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 tanny brought in Holmes. idzik brought in Winslow. It's not Rex Ryan's job to change the personality of grown ass men. Rex has no problem taking credit for telling Tanny to go get Holmes in Hard Knocks, FYI. Now with that said, it's totally irrelevant who brought the players to the Jets. It IS the job of the head coach to set the tone for how his players are going to behave, and interview. In short, Bill Belliboobs says you are wrong. You boob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Winslow caught one pass Sunday-and was immediately taken out of the game. Kinda hard to worry about any receiver when the QB cannot get anyone the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 t IS the job of the head coach to set the tone for how his players are going to behave, and interview. In short, Bill Belliboobs says you are wrong. You boob. if you put Kellen Winslow on the Pats he's still a jerk. in fact that actually happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Rex's Job -calling defensive plays Not Rex's Job -controlling players -scouting players -developing players -anything related to offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 if you put Kellen Winslow on the Pats he's still a jerk. in fact that actually happened. Fact is, if Bellichick's players speak out against an opponent, they get benched (see-Wes Weleker, AFC Playoffs vs jets). Rex's players do it, they get a slap on the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Rex's Job -calling defensive plays Not Rex's Job -controlling players -scouting players -developing players -anything related to offense Rex also plans the parade route. And tells the press about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacked4JetsFB Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Rex's Job -calling defensive plays Not Rex's Job -controlling players -scouting players -developing players -anything related to offense Wo! He's not responsible for special teams either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Guard him? Like in basketball? Anyway, the only thing worse than a losing season is a losing season where players like Winslow and Holmes shoot their mouths off trying desperately to snatch up some relevancy. Lame. At least they'll both be gone in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 Fact is, if Bellichick's players speak out against an opponent, they get benched (see-Wes Weleker, AFC Playoffs vs jets). Rex's players do it, they get a slap on the ass. Literally every time Holmes has gone off the reservation, Rex has lauded him for it, calling him a "competitor" with "great passion." Clueless moron, grand leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacked4JetsFB Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Literally every time Holmes has gone off the reservation, Rex has lauded him for it, calling him a "competitor" with "great passion." Clueless moron, grand leader. Captain Holmes. Of course Rex lovers will spin this to "He learns from his mistakes and removed him as captain next year" LOL, how about not making idiotic moronic stupid ass mistakes in the first place that are painfully obvious to the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Fact is, if Bellichick's players speak out against an opponent, they get benched (see-Wes Weleker, AFC Playoffs vs jets). Rex's players do it, they get a slap on the ass. True. This "players coach" thing hasn't exactly worked, has it? This approach is a prime reason why the buffoon is not HC material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Rex's Job -calling defensive plays Not Rex's Job -controlling players -scouting players -developing players -anything related to offense And he didnt even do that prior to Pettine leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Rex's Job -calling defensive plays Not Rex's Job -controlling players -scouting players -developing players -anything related to offense Rex told him to say this. And its a really big deal. Like HUGE deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 if you put Kellen Winslow on the Pats he's still a jerk. in fact that actually happened. And then he was suddenly not a Pat anymore... while here with the Jets, it's just acceptable to be a jerk. If the head coach doesn't set the standard, then there aren't any. You get more ridiculous by the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Rex's Job -calling defensive plays that work Not Rex's Job -calling defensive plays that don't work -controlling players -scouting players -developing players -anything related to offense I've refined this for you a bit.... bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 And then he was suddenly not a Pat anymore... while here with the Jets, it's just acceptable to be a jerk. If the head coach doesn't set the standard, then there aren't any. You get more ridiculous by the day. head coaches don't cut players, general managers do. Belly is both. Rex isn't. Could Rex demand Winslow be cut this week? he could. But Idzik doesn't have to listen. Rex could adjust his playing time, which apparently is already happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Rex could adjust his playing time, which apparently is already happening. Only if Idzik lets him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 head coaches don't cut players, general managers do. Belly is both. Rex isn't. Could Rex demand Winslow be cut this week? he could. But Idzik doesn't have to listen. Rex could adjust his playing time, which apparently is already happening. LOLZA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 maybe this all an elaborate ploy to keep the Browns defense off Holmes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 He's right. No one can guard him. The defenders will be atleast 50 yards away from him. Hard to guard someone thats on the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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