#90 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Actually, we need two starting guards... Winters is a bust and Colon is hurt and so-so at best. After that, there is no one in the pipe line! How come this is being over looked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetknowledge Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 How can you label a guy a bust after only a rookie season, and we could draft a guard. And sign 2 vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Brian Winters is a bust already? Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 William Campbell. He played DL in college, so Rex did the scouting. I guarantee he's a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Ben Ijalana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Ben Ijalana Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Actually, we need two starting guards... Winters is a bust and Colon is hurt and so-so at best. After that, there is no one in the pipe line! How come this is being over looked? Really? Please elucidate. You have obviously put a lot of thought into this statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Who?6'4, 322lb OG the Colts traded up to draft in the second round of the 2011 draft. He played LT at Villanova but was projected as a RT or OG in the pros before tearing his ACL four games into his career. We swiped him off waivers last summer and have stashed him on our inactive roster ever since. He could play RT, (pushing Giacomini into a swing tackle role), or RG if Breni impresses or if we draft an OT. For all the talk about WRs or TE, or tier-1 CB , I have to assume that if Jake Matthews or Taylor Lewan is still available at 18, Idzik will play it smart and bolster the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I dont know, but Idzik will let us know soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 6'4, 322lb OG the Colts traded up to draft in the second round of the 2011 draft. He played LT at Villanova but was projected as a RT or OG in the pros before tearing his ACL four games into his career. We swiped him off waivers last summer and have stashed him on our inactive roster ever since. He could play RT, (pushing Giacomini into a swing tackle role), or RG if Breni impresses or if we draft an OT. For all the talk about WRs or TE, or tier-1 CB , I have to assume that if Jake Matthews or Taylor Lewan is still available at 18, Idzik will play it smart and bolster the OL. You really think there is a realistic chance of Matthews being there? If so, grab him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Calling a mid-round pick a "bust" after his rookie season is a tad excessive. Like it or not, they'll give Winters every chance possible to keep that job as long as they think he's got a sliver of hope to him. He at least seemed to improve a bit as the season went on, so we'll see how that goes. Then they've got a few other guys trolling around on the roster who I'm sure they'll be glad to see if they can get anything out of, including two other draft picks from last year. But in the end, keep in mind that guard is probably one of the most common positions to find an acceptable player at through late in free agency and often times even during cuts months down the line. Of course you don't expect it to be a major position of strength in that case, but there are often still options out there to at least address it if they feel the need. How the team ultimately opts to handle it is of course another matter, but you'd hope they wouldn't blindly count on what they've got at the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 oline is most impprtant position behind qb imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Don't sweat it dude ... they're bringing back the rugby guy... put 35 lbs on him and they say he pulls like a mo-fo. Say he will make a cracker jack guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Calling a mid-round pick a "bust" after his rookie season is a tad excessive. Like it or not, they'll give Winters every chance possible to keep that job as long as they think he's got a sliver of hope to him. He at least seemed to improve a bit as the season went on, so we'll see how that goes. Then they've got a few other guys trolling around on the roster who I'm sure they'll be glad to see if they can get anything out of, including two other draft picks from last year. But in the end, keep in mind that guard is probably one of the most common positions to find an acceptable player at through late in free agency and often times even during cuts months down the line. Of course you don't expect it to be a major position of strength in that case, but there are often still options out there to at least address it if they feel the need. How the team ultimately opts to handle it is of course another matter, but you'd hope they wouldn't blindly count on what they've got at the position. Twats with the avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Twats with the avatar? I have no idea twat you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 6'4, 322lb OG the Colts traded up to draft in the second round of the 2011 draft. He played LT at Villanova but was projected as a RT or OG in the pros before tearing his ACL four games into his career. We swiped him off waivers last summer and have stashed him on our inactive roster ever since. He could play RT, (pushing Giacomini into a swing tackle role), or RG if Breni impresses or if we draft an OT. For all the talk about WRs or TE, or tier-1 CB , I have to assume that if Jake Matthews or Taylor Lewan is still available at 18, Idzik will play it smart and bolster the OL. Taylor Lewan is SICK. That guy moves like a ballerina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The draft has a decent list of OG guys projected to go in the 2-3 round range: 1. Gabe Jackson 6'3, 339 2. Cyril Richardson 6'4, 343 3. Xavier Sua-Filo 6'5, 315 4. David Yankey 6'5, 311 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Actually, we need two starting guards... Winters is a bust and Colon is hurt and so-so at best. After that, there is no one in the pipe line! How come this is being over looked? The hell is this? Do mods give out warning points for such stupid waste of bandwidth threads here? Seriously, did u effing forget there is this thing called the draft? N teams draft players so they could be a part of the team? Or are u just a Dolphin fan trolling here? Either way, you're pretty clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The draft has a decent list of OG guys projected to go in the 2-3 round range: 1. Gabe Jackson 6'3, 339 2. Cyril Richardson 6'4, 343 3. Xavier Sua-Filo 6'5, 315 4. David Yankey 6'5, 311 Didn't Richardson get tossed around like a rag doll in the pre Senior Bowl drills? Xavier Sua-Filo 6'5, 315 This guy is a mainstay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The hell is this? Do mods give out warning points for such stupid waste of bandwidth threads here? Seriously, did u effing forget there is this thing called the draft? N teams draft players so they could be a part of the team? Or are u just a Dolphin fan trolling here? Either way, you're pretty cluelessThe OP obviously forgot that this team had Vladimir Ducasse (a recent 2nd round pick) on roster when we drafted Will Campbell and Brian Winters after signing Colon...and then signed Peterman as insurance. Then mid-season we picked up Ben Ijalana off waivers and stashed him on the inactive roster. To say we haven't addressed the position is ridiculous. To say we've neglected the "pipeline"-- even more so. We released Peterman before the season started, let Ducasse play out his contract, and watched Colon become an UFA while he recovers from a tricep tear. The only thing we can be accused of this off-season is not getting Asamoah to not sign with Atlanta, or sign Schwartz before the Giants did. At this point there's really nobody else in FA that wouldn't be a Peterman-esque signing (throwing money at an aged JAG to compete in training camp). Moves like that can happen after the mini-draft, and wouldn't excite anyone anyway. So all in all, it's a non-issue right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 6'4, 322lb OG the Colts traded up to draft in the second round of the 2011 draft. He played LT at Villanova but was projected as a RT or OG in the pros before tearing his ACL four games into his career. We swiped him off waivers last summer and have stashed him on our inactive roster ever since. He could play RT, (pushing Giacomini into a swing tackle role), or RG if Breni impresses or if we draft an OT. For all the talk about WRs or TE, or tier-1 CB , I have to assume that if Jake Matthews or Taylor Lewan is still available at 18, Idzik will play it smart and bolster the OL. 2 acl tears and 2 hip surgeries as well for Ijalana. The dude was a very talented OT....4 surgeries later I think he's just trying to make it through training camp healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I'd kick the tires on Saints C Brian de la Puenta, see if he wants to play guard here and backup Mangold. I think he could be the best of what's left of the interior linemen in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 dude, worry about your brackets this weekend it's ******* march Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Didn't Richardson get tossed around like a rag doll in the pre Senior Bowl drills? Xavier Sua-Filo 6'5, 315 This guy is a mainstay .Didn't Richardson have a terrible Combine as well.... 5.8 forty and 18 reps? Just going by memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 How can you label a guy a bust after only a rookie season, and we could draft a guard. And sign 2 vets. I agree with not labeling Winters a bust just yet, but Idzik seems almost incapable of pulling the trigger on deals. He has signed 2 FA's with 40 mil in cap space while guys sign with others. The Pats had almost NO cap space yet have signed Darrelle Revis and Browner while Idzik twiddles his thumbs. Pretty soon there won't be anyone left to sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Didn't Richardson get tossed around like a rag doll in the pre Senior Bowl drills? Xavier Sua-Filo 6'5, 315 This guy is a mainstay. Donald Penn, "the next Geno Atkins", made him look silly. He was able to use a speed rush to get Richardson tangled up and got him to fall down once. It doesn't take away from his ability as a run-blocking mauler. Richardson is a big fat fatty. Slow on his feet, not nimble whatsoever, but a load to push off the line. Xavier Sua-Filo is his opposite. That kid was running around like a TE and has the pundits talking about probowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetknowledge Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The best 3 guards could still be around by round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Colon sign anywhere yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Colon sign anywhere yet? I think he is still rehabbing. He probably won't sign anywhere until he can pass a physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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