long suffering jets fan Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Pretty much the one positive aspect of Bradway's legacy will be him supposedly "pounding the table" for Wilson. What about, Revis, Mo, Brick, Mangold, Harris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 What about, Revis, Mo, Brick, Mangold, Harris? What about last April? What has he done for us lately? You don't get judged on the job you did for a company 3-4-5-6-7 years ago you are judged on how you are doing NOW. Let's have Bradways and his staff on the couch with all of their work-ups on every potential 2015 draftee, judge that work and more importantly HOW it got here and see if it's worth the paper or computer space it was typed up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 @BobGlauber: My understanding is Jets GM Mike Maccagnan will make major changes in scouting department. Terry Bradway & Jeff Bauer not expected to stay. @BrianCoz: On personnel department, heard no changes are definite yet, but it sounds like they are coming, as @BobGlauber said. #nyj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 @BobGlauber: My understanding is Jets GM Mike Maccagnan will make major changes in scouting department. Terry Bradway & Jeff Bauer not expected to stay. @BrianCoz: On personnel department, heard no changes are definite yet, but it sounds like they are coming, as @BobGlauber said. #nyj music to my ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Cassery loves him and Wolf seemed to like him...He's well respected..and we don't know what picks he wanted as the GM made the final call.. but yes, outside of Watt - Houston has been very average in drafting. JJ Watt was drafted in the Spring of 2011. Maccagnan was not hired as college scouting director until the summer of 2011. But everyone seems to be missing that point, mainly because it keeps getting parroted by all the radio talking heads that "...he drafted JJ Watt!". Its misinformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 JJ Watt was drafted in the Spring of 2011. Maccagnan was not hired as college scouting director until the summer of 2011. But everyone seems to be missing that point, mainly because it keeps getting parroted by all the radio talking heads that "...he drafted JJ Watt!". Its misinformation. Thanks, joy kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 not for anything but the entire world knew JJ Watt was good coming into the draft....the middle rounds are where successful GM's make their bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 JJ Watt was drafted in the Spring of 2011. Maccagnan was not hired as college scouting director until the summer of 2011. But everyone seems to be missing that point, mainly because it keeps getting parroted by all the radio talking heads that "...he drafted JJ Watt!". Its misinformation. Ok. So if that position is responsible for all the bad picks then only Jeff Bauer should be fired, and not Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I guess the word league wide was Woody didn't want to put much effort or didn't really value our scouting dept. Reading between the lines it sounded like Jets scouts weren't on the road all that often. And the rep about Bradway dating back to his GM days was he was a bit lazy. So this makes sense Putting effort into scouting is more a function of the GM than the owner. Yet another reason Idzik is gone. Any armchair GM could have had a better draft than Big John last year. the 2014 draft basically set this team back 2 years given the lack of available QB's in '15. Idzik's rebuild was like a Lindsey Lohan rehab stint - it didn't accomplish anything except perpetuate another rebuild. Wake me up in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I'm not so sure he's gone. I don't think his role is what most people think it is any more. The guy to hate for this last draft is Rod Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Not so sure this is all on Bradway like some here think .. No one knows the inner workings of the organization and how the GM's interpret what the scouting dept is actually telling them or recommending they do. For all we know Bradway could have done a fine job but Idzik payed zero attention just like Tanny when Bradway said Wilson and a receiver I remember him gushing about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Ok. So if that position is responsible for all the bad picks then only Jeff Bauer should be fired, and not Idzik. No. There are lots of folks involved in those decisions. Mac didn't draft JJ Watt, that's all i'm saying. As for Idzik, meh. The guy should probably have been given a chance to hire his own coach. He did do miracles with our bloated salary cap and cut a ton of dead weight. He did pick up some decent guys on the cheap that contributed (probably SHOULD give that credit to the pro scouts, though.) He's a guy that's a genius if Geno had panned out and McDougle makes the field alongside Milliner...guy caught some bad breaks if you ask me. Don't know that Mac is any better. I hope he is. But Idzik got the shaft. Woody always caves to the press and billboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I don't understand the hate for Bradway. He is head of the scouting department and from what I understand delivered great scouting reports on players that rex and Tanny passed on, then Idzik. Bradway wanted Russell Wilson badly and Tannenbaum dismissed this. Bradway did NOT want Quinton Coples, but guess what? He also didn't like Stephen Hill, but again guess what? Seems he takes the blame for the guys our former GM's DID PICK and not the ones they didn't. link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Not so sure this is all on Bradway like some here think .. No one knows the inner workings of the organization and how the GM's interpret what the scouting dept is actually telling them or recommending they do. For all we know Bradway could have done a fine job but Idzik payed zero attention just like Tanny when Bradway said Wilson and a receiver I remember him gushing about. link? nvm...bradway needs to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 link? nvm...bradway needs to go link on what JC ? Im fine with Bradway hitting the road but ya can't blame the guy for things you really don't know.. No one is going to come out and point fingers its very rare that happens in the NFL and if it does good luck finding another job. Sometimes things get hot and people talk but once again thats a rare occurance. Im all for Mac bringing in his own scouting Dept. Im all for Bowles bringing in his own coaches I just hope he retains Dunbar who seemed to be the only assistant worth a crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 link on what JC ? Im fine with Bradway hitting the road but ya can't blame the guy for things you really don't know.. No one is going to come out and point fingers its very rare that happens in the NFL and if it does good luck finding another job. Sometimes things get hot and people talk but once again thats a rare occurance. Im all for Mac bringing in his own scouting Dept. Im all for Bowles bringing in his own coaches I just hope he retains Dunbar who seemed to be the only assistant worth a crap JC was asking for the link of Bradway not wanting Coples, Hill & gushing about what WR Dunbar went to buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 JC was asking for the link of Bradway not wanting Coples, Hill & gushing about what WR Dunbar went to buffalo. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFk! Okay, im over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 If one is going to send emails to GM's raving about a player, one would expect that someone to actually watch him play more than once or twice. relying on kipers thumbnails is no way to go thru life. now thats just sour grapes. You are better than that Rich. relax with some of that great Java you like so much I was right on Russell Wilson = Home Run!! Had only they read my emails, LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 No. There are lots of folks involved in those decisions. Mac didn't draft JJ Watt, that's all i'm saying. As for Idzik, meh. The guy should probably have been given a chance to hire his own coach. He did do miracles with our bloated salary cap and cut a ton of dead weight. He did pick up some decent guys on the cheap that contributed (probably SHOULD give that credit to the pro scouts, though.) He's a guy that's a genius if Geno had panned out and McDougle makes the field alongside Milliner...guy caught some bad breaks if you ask me. Don't know that Mac is any better. I hope he is. But Idzik got the shaft. Woody always caves to the press and billboards. True, but this team does not draft well, and the one constant all these years has been TB. That is the way I look at it. He must have had something significant to do with that. And wasn't Mac in the Houston scouting department before that promotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFk! Okay, im over it. I'm sure we can find a DL coach that can get something out of our 3 too tier D linemen, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 JJ Watt was drafted in the Spring of 2011. Maccagnan was not hired as college scouting director until the summer of 2011. But everyone seems to be missing that point, mainly because it keeps getting parroted by all the radio talking heads that "...he drafted JJ Watt!". Its misinformation. He was in the scouting department still right? Everything I've seen and heard says that he's had at least some of his fingerprints on most Texan selections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I really think Terry is getting fired. For better or for worse. Not sure what his draft reports look like, but it is time for a clean start. When did I start that thread, September? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Excellent! Bradway was only here about 12 years too long. Better late than never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I'm sure we can find a DL coach that can get something out of our 3 too tier D linemen, lol Really. If we see a huge step backwards in Wilkerson + Richardson + Snacks + Coples then we hired a pretty awful DL coach to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The guy who drafted Doug jolley will finally be looking for a new job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The guy who drafted Doug jolley will finally be looking for a new job I don't think Al Davis is looking for a new job?? I'd call him permanently retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonix Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 .....Bob Glauber ✔ @BobGlauber Follow My understanding is Jets GM Mike Maccagnan will make major changes in scouting department. Terry Bradway & Jeff Bauer not expected to stay. Hope they show Terry Bradway the door.... ASAP. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonix Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The guy who drafted Doug jolley will finally be looking for a new job Thank Heavens. Woody finally does it. Maybe we get a decent draft war room, like the other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny16 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Best news of the offseason. Hopefully Maccagnan puts the kind of people in place that can have us operating at a similar level as the rest of the teams when it comes to the draft, rather than looking like we have zero clue as to what we're doing in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Thank Heavens. Woody finally does it. Maybe we get a decent draft war room, like the other teams. The other teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 As per the great Mike DiMone in Fast Times at Ridgemont High ..."and I was having such a good day." Great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Bradway should go. Time for some new blood. But blaming the entire scouting dept. seems like SOJ "its everybody's fault" mentality. In every business and in every type of career, you have the good and bad. Find the best of our scouts, the most dedicated and personally invested, and move them up the chain. Then cut the dead weight and hire to fill the bottom. That's the formula that has worked in every business and organization everywhere since forever. "Fire them all"....just dumb and reactionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 The guy who drafted Doug jolley will finally be looking for a new job Yeah I don't care if Bradway wanted Russell Wilson and got overruled in favor of Teblow. Bradway made so many bone-headed moves over the years as GM or advising in the scouting dep't. F that guy let him go to Buffalo and get Rex fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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