rillo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 After Ray Rice, you bet. Get ready for more Goodell must go banners. And the owners will back him...nothing to see here unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Can you name some of the "facts"? The only fact is that 11 balls were underinflated. There are no other facts, and that's the problem for Goodell. Same thinking applied to PEDS if you don't see the player shoot up then there is no evidence. F'ing ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Folks are saying Belly hung Brady out to dry, threw under Bus etc,, Maybe, just maybe he was told by Brady Monday "Ya, I've been telling our ballboys to do that to our balls for years" Belly may have done a WTF and said 'This one is one you big fella' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The most reasonable explanation which fits the available facts is simply that Belichick is lying through his teeth AGAIN after having been caught cheating AGAIN or the Leprechauns came up out of the storm drains and sucked air or of 11 balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 LOL people trying to make a few bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Where's the planes flying over NFL HQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 It's "DUMBASS!" You dumbasses. Not a Swawshank fan huh DUMAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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afosomf Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 No last detail is unknown by Mumbles, He hired Ernie Adams for subterfuge. He already admitted they submit balls at 12.5. Once in ballboys hands voila it goes down to 11 or lower. Ballboy wraps balls in towel so they cannot be seen. So EZ to place a pin in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DaBallhawk Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Retired QBs are now commenting on it: "I think this has been going on all year with Tom and the equipment guys. It's become unspoken. The equipment guys know that Tom likes a softer ball and so they do this trying to make him happy. The equipment guys secretly take some air out of the balls after the referees have inspected them before the game. It's just this time, they got caught. I'm not sure Belichick even knew." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Circumstantial evidence he's saying now. Holy **** if this was ever the most ridiculous meltdown ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 http://www.news-press.com/story/sports/2015/01/22/retired-nfl-official-explains-safeguarding-footballs/22167675/ So a retired official weighs in... “Someone had to have gone over there and messed with them,” Rose said of the footballs. “Somebody probably had to have gotten a needle and let air out of it. It’s not hard to do. You can let air out of a ball pretty quick.” Retired NFL official explains safeguarding of footballs Retired NFL official Larry Rose has worked about 350 NFL games, including Super Bowl XLII, in which the New York Giants defeated the New England Patriots. So the longtime Fort Myers resident knows a thing or two about how footballs are cared for and safeguarded.Deflate-gate the latest NFL controversy on whether the New England Patriots intentionally deflated their own footballs for a competitive advantage, grabbed Rose’s attention. Over the course of his 17-year NFL career as a side judge, Rose had worked with all of the officials on the field for New England’s 45-7 victory against the Indianapolis Colts in the AFC Championship game Sunday. “Someone had to have gone over there and messed with them,” Rose said of the footballs. “Somebody probably had to have gotten a needle and let air out of it. It’s not hard to do. You can let air out of a ball pretty quick.” Rose, who said he had not spoken yet with his former colleagues, went through the step-by-step process of how officials care for game-day footballs. “Here’s how it works,” Rose said. “There are 12 kicking balls that come to the hotel. Those balls are in a box, sealed. We take them with us to the stadium. We clean them. We rub them. We scrub them. We do everything with them. “Then each team brings in their own balls. Indianapolis will bring in their balls, and those balls will have Colts burned into them. The Patriots bring their balls, and those balls have Patriots burned into the leather. “Usually there are two-to-four ballboys for each team. They bring the balls in. We clean them up, scrub them up, and we put a marking on them. Each referee puts a marking on the ball, or a signature. So we have 12 or 24 balls from each team, depending on the weather.“As soon as we are done cleaning them and filling them up with air, then we have them in our control. We close the bag, and lock them up. Nobody can get to those balls at that time. “When we come back out before the game, we bring a bag of 12 balls, out to the field we go. Those balls are taken into a designated area. Those are always in the same place. Supposedly, there’s supposed to be security around there. I don’t know how that works, because I was never around there.“Once we get to the field and drop the balls off, it’s out of our control. We’re out refereeing the game. We’re not worried about the balls. There’s no reason for us to get involved in it unless someone says, ‘There’s something wrong with the balls.’ Then we would check into it.” Not once, Rose said, did that happen to him in 17 years. Balls are switched 50 to 80 times a ballgame. “We change balls almost every play, especially when it’s wet,” Rose said. “If there’s a big, noticeable difference, we’re probably going to notice.” Safety Corey Lynch, a Cape Coral native who played for the Colts last season, said his former team would have been at an extreme competitive disadvantage against the Patriots if indeed New England’s footballs while on offense were underinflated.“It would be drastically easier to catch,” Lynch said. “You can catch the ball 10 times better when the ball is deflated, especially in a cold-weather game. “An inflated ball is like a rock. It just bounces off your hands. If it’s true, that they were under-inflated, that’s an easy way to cheat. As long as the ball goes to your fingers, you’re going to catch it. It’s all absorption. There’s no bounce.” Lynch, who is hoping to sign with an NFL team in time for the 2015 season, recalled working out with his personal trainer Seth Hayes while using footballs that were underinflated. “I could catch the ball one-handed, no problem,” Lynch said. “He said, ‘Your hands are getting better.’ And I said, ‘No, you need to fill the ball up with air.’” Lynch, an Evangelical Christian School graduate and retired NFL cornerback Anthony Henry, an Estero High School graduate, said they never encountered deflated footballs in games. “It probably wouldn’t have impacted me as a defensive player,” Henry said. “More so quarterbacks and guys catching the ball, because of players’ muscle memory when catching and throwing the ball consistently.” Although deflated footballs would make for a competitive advantage, Rose said doubted that advantage would result in a 45-7 blowout. “With the score the way that it was, the balls had absolutely zero to do with the outcome,” Rose said. “I just don’t think New England would have had that big of an advantage. And the temperature was 51 degrees.” Connect with this reporter: David Dorsey (Facebook), @DavidADorsey (Twitter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Retired QBs are now commenting on it: "I think this has been going on all year with Tom and the equipment guys. It's become unspoken. The equipment guys know that Tom likes a softer ball and so they do this trying to make him happy. The equipment guys secretly take some air out of the balls after the referees have inspected them before the game. It's just this time, they got caught. I'm not sure Belichick even knew." Come on MON, Bellie knew balls were inflated at bare bones spec! He said so in presser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 No last detail is unknown by Mumbles, He hired Ernie Adams for subterfuge. He already admitted they submit balls at 12.5. Once in ballboys hands voila it goes down to 11 or lower. Ballboy wraps balls in towel so they cannot be seen. So EZ to place a pin in them With all the taping of games teams do, wouldn't that show up on one of them somewhere? Not to mention all the TV angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 depressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 With all the taping of games teams do, wouldn't that show up on one of them somewhere? Not to mention all the TV angles. Not necessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 According to Jerome Bettis and other players under inflated balls are harder to strip and therefore lead to fewer fumbles. It is impossible that Bill Belichick is not aware of this. Because the running backs (and therefore the running backs coaches) also have to "know" There is simply no set of circumstances where this could happen pervasively, probably for many years on a Bill Belichick team and where he did not know. Therefore he lied multiple times in the press conference today Tom Brady is not the only player handling these softer balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk · 13m13 minutes ago Troy Aikman: Patriots punishment should exceed Saints bounty punishment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk · 13m13 minutes ago Troy Aikman: Patriots punishment should exceed Saints bounty punishment wow, geting lots of pub, but I sadly think nuthin happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 No last detail is unknown by Mumbles, He hired Ernie Adams for subterfuge. He already admitted they submit balls at 12.5. Once in ballboys hands voila it goes down to 11 or lower. Ballboy wraps balls in towel so they cannot be seen. So EZ to place a pin in them Did you post that from the grassy knoll in Dallas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Did you post that from the grassy knoll in Dallas? No but I hear FedEX just delivered a package to the BallBoys parents house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I think they are shocked by the speed with which this story went nuclear. So I think the cover story feels less well practiced than the lies we heard during spygate. There are so many holes in what BB said today that it will continue to unravel even if the current plan is to have Brady go under the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The New England Patriots Prevention of Fumbles is Nearly Impossible http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Did you post that from the grassy knoll in Dallas? $40K in a shoebox mon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The New England Patriots Prevention of Fumbles is Nearly Impossible http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/ And there is the smoking gun..... BINGO!!!! This is the beginning the middle and the end of the story. Holy f&*king sh*t. This should be front page on every sport site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The New England Patriots Prevention of Fumbles is Nearly Impossible http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/ That fumble data is pretty damning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 No but I hear FedEX just delivered a package to the BallBoys parents house I'm surprised the ballboy's name has been reported in the press yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The New England Patriots Prevention of Fumbles is Nearly Impossible http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/ UNPHUCKING real, Deep throat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The NFL has a real hard choice here. Crack down hard on a repeat offender cheater, before the Super Bowl they're about to play in.......or become the WWE. Acting > Sport, with no integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm surprised the ballboy's name has been reported in the press yet. Nice try TX but the fumble data makes it pretty clear how long this have been going and and exactly who must have known about it. This will get much uglier before it gets better, LTNS by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I think they finally did it right this time. Belichick has now been tricked into a position in a press conference that is simply not going to pass the laugh test anywhere. If it was just the QB and his preference then sure it may have worked but now it is years worth of hard data on team fumbles which defies belief until you understand that there is a reason and that the reason makes complete sense. I think the fact that it helps Tom Brady is almost an unintended side effect here. This protects the running game and the turnover differential. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The New England Patriots Prevention of Fumbles is Nearly Impossible http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/ This needs to be pushed to the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blitz Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 That fumble data is unreal, why is this not being reported by the media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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