Francessa: Jets called Bucs about Glennon: MERGED

[ChuckkieB]

On ‎3‎/‎28‎/‎2016 at 3:12 PM, Warfish said:

so with that said, it appears we agree.  Glennon, as a member of the class of "any other vaguely qualified person" > Geno Smith.

Anyone who is breathing and can throw a football > Geno Smith.  Just sayin'...

[Villain The Foe]

It seems as if the NFL may even be coming around to my boy! Glennon in on the NFL.com homepage and they gave him a nice little article spot

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000651230/article/mike-glennon-should-entice-rams-jets-broncos-and-cowboys

[AFJF]

1 hour ago, YankeeJet22 said:

Alot of peeps here have convinced themselves that he's the answer, when in reality he may be no better than our own Geno Smith.   Pass. 

He may also be several times better and based on how well he's taken care of the football compared to the rate at which Geno turns it over tells me he's far superior in one of the most vital aspects of the game.  

[Villain The Foe]

1 hour ago, YankeeJet22 said:

Alot of peeps here have convinced themselves that he's the answer, when in reality he may be no better than our own Geno Smith.   Pass. 

So whats YOUR answer? 

 

I've never been a fan of a critic who gives their 2 cents yet never leaves anything in regards to an alternative. 

[Villain The Foe]

C'mon Macc, make this happen! 

 

[Patriot Killa]

18 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

C'mon Macc, make this happen! 

 

I think a trade goes through with Kaep going to Denver and Glennon goes to San Fran... But I hope not.

[AFJF]

2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

I think a trade goes through with Kaep going to Denver and Glennon goes to San Fran... But I hope not.

Glennon is a million miles from what Chip Kelly looks for in a QB.  Not saying he isn't crazy enough to do it after trading for Bradford, but he wants a guy who can run and has no desire to have the QB throw the ball beyond 15 yards.  Fitz is a better fit for SF than Glennon.

[SR24]

With the weapons he would have (Marshall,Decker,Forte) we beef up the oline even more in the draft Glennon could be something special. Id offer a 4th if they accept great if not then oh well move on to someone else

[Rangers9]

37 minutes ago, AFJF said:

Glennon is a million miles from what Chip Kelly looks for in a QB.  Not saying he isn't crazy enough to do it after trading for Bradford, but he wants a guy who can run and has no desire to have the QB throw the ball beyond 15 yards.  Fitz is a better fit for SF than Glennon.

I agree. I could see Chip interested in Fitz if they can get rid of Kap. He can extend plays with his legs better than most. Not sure if they really think highly of Gabbert. 

[Villain The Foe]

Mike Glennon should entice Rams, Jets, Broncos and Cowboys

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• By Adam Schein
• NFL Media columnist
• Published: April 7, 2016 at 12:45 p.m.
• Updated: April 7, 2016 at 03:17 p.m.
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We're into spring, summer's just around the corner ... and numerous teams are still in the market for a quarterback. Oh, and there aren't enough quarterbacks to go around.

Which leads us to the curious case of Mike Glennon, who is one of the top 32 quarterbacks in the NFL, yet is rarely included in the conversation. Why? Well, it's interesting.

I've always been a Glennon fan. I liked him coming out of North Carolina State. Mark Dominik and Greg Schiano liked him a lot, too: The old Tampa Bay Buccaneers regime stole him in the third round of the2013 NFL Draft. But then Schiano made a mistake: He played Josh Freeman to start that season. Freeman wasn't a player (having thrown 39 interceptions in the prior two seasons) or a leader (as evidenced by the acrimony that built between Freeman and the team prior to his eventual midseason release). Freeman was a bust, but Schiano and Co. started him over the rookie Glennon in the first three games of the season. The Bucs went 0-3, setting the tone for what would become Schiano and Dominik's final season in Tampa Bay.

Glennon did end up starting 13 games for Tampa that year, and he showed plenty of promise, throwing 19 touchdown passes against just nine picks despite playing behind a porous offensive line. Glennon nearly beat the eventual Super Bowl champion Seahawks in Seattle, which was unheard of in 2013.

When Dominik and Schiano got canned, Lovie Smith entered the picture. The new coach signed Josh McCown early in free agency and didn't allow Glennon to legitimately compete for the job. In a related story, the 2014 Bucs won two games. In another related story, Lovie Smith got fired after two years on the job.

Tampa now has its quarterback of the present and future in Jameis Winston. Glennon represents the ultimate insurance in the final year of his rookie contract, which is why savvy Bucs general manager Jason Licht isn't going to deal him haphazardly, if at all. But Tampa does need players. And quality quarterbacks are rare commodities. If I asked you 365 days ago if you'd rank Glennon ahead of Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Sam Bradford, Case Keenum -- heck, even Brock Osweiler -- what would you have said?

So, this week, I started posing questions about Glennon to various power brokers across the NFL.

One NFL general manager said, "Glennon is the perfect fit for the Jets. Good arm. Good fit in [Chan] Gailey's offense. Younger and better than [Ryan] Fitzpatrick."

Another GM said, "I hope he doesn't get traded into my division."

One personnel director said, "I don't know. He couldn't play in front of Josh McCown. That's a red flag."

 

A third general manager disagreed completely: "If you gave me a choice of Ryan Tannehill or Mike Glennon, give me Mike Glennon. He's smart. He has a great reputation as a worker. He's a middle-of-the-pack starter in the NFL."

I asked that third GM about compensation in a trade. The response? "He's worth a 2. Especially this year. I'd take him in 2016 over the quarterbacks that will go on Day 2 of the draft. That's what Tampa should hold out for. Or work him in a deal with theJets involving Mo Wilkerson and picks."

On Wednesday's edition of my SiriusXM Radio show, "Schein on Sports," I asked NFL on CBS lead analyst Phil Simms for his take on Glennon and why he doesn't get a shot. Phil's a Glennon fan and had a fascinating answer:

"Because he's Mike Glennon. Well, who's he? Oh, he wasn't picked in the first round, he wasn't a star -- and it goes on and on. I've said this many times about him: I thought, when he came out, he was very close to Matt Ryan. You heard his offensive coordinator, Dana Bible, say he's ahead of Matt Ryan when he got out of North Carolina State. [Bible coached Ryan at Boston College.] When you watch him, he's going to make it as a starting quarterback in the NFL when the team he is on is good enough to win enough games, and be a team that goes out there every week, and you know they can win and score and stuff and have a chance to ... And the starter gets hurt, and he comes in and does really, really well. Then somebody is going to go out and get him and make him their quarterback -- a team that is ready to go, not a startup team like San Francisco or Cleveland. But a team that goes, 'We bring him in, he's the guy -- we're ready to go win here and he could be the guy.' You gotta catch lightning in a bottle, that's what I believe. That's just how it is with guys like Mike Glennon."

Point taken.

So which teams make the most sense for Glennon? Let's take a look across the league ...

Los Angeles Rams: If Case Keenum is the answer, I'd love to know the question. Picking 15th later this month, Los Angeles isn't going to be able to draft Carson Wentz or Jared Goff. So unless the Rams like -- and can get -- Paxton Lynch at 15, why not go after Glennon? By the way, the Rams have an extra second-round pick ...

New York Jets: The smart money is still on Ryan Fitzpatrick going back to New York. The market for him clearly just hasn't developed elsewhere. Fitz needs the Jets, and the Jets need him, giventhe rapport he has with Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker. I think Glennon could be better than Fitz, though he would have to develop the relationship that Fitzpatrick established with his guys in a highly productive 2015 campaign.

Denver Broncos: The Super Bowlchampions need a quarterback. (Sorry, Mark Sanchez -- I'm just not seeing it.)

Dallas Cowboys: Glennon fills two voids, giving the Cowboys an experienced backup (with 18 starts under his belt) for now and a promising quarterback for the future. I wrote about the Cowboys' options with the No. 4 pick earlier this week. I'd take Wentz if he's there. If not? Gimme Ezekiel Elliott or Joey Bosa. So let's say the 'Boys do indeed go non-quarterback in Round 1. Would you rather have Glennon or Connor Cook/Christian Hackenberg backing up Tony Romo in 2016?

San Francisco 49ers: As Simms alluded, the 49ers aren't in the greatest shape when it comes to the overall roster. But this remains one of the NFL's most storied franchises, with a rich history in quarterbacking, so I must examine this possibility. Now, I've written many times that Colin Kaepernick should stay in San Francisco and play for Chip Kelly. And he should never consider giving up any money. But if Kap does fly the coop, how about Glennon?

Buffalo Bills: The Bills are working out quarterback prospects -- and they should. As GM Doug Whaley said on NFL Network on Thursday morning,"time will tell" if Tyrod Taylor is the long-term solution. What if the price for Glennon becomes a third-rounder?

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: If Licht doesn't get what he wants, Glennon stays put. But Licht wasn't with the team when Glennon was drafted. What if the Bucs GM has a chance to get a solid return and invest in a player at another position? One thing to stress, though: In my opinion, Glennon is the ideal backup for Winston in 2016. The Bucs can keep him for this year -- he's a team player and offers great insurance should Winston go down -- and then Tampa can receive a compensatory pick if he leaves in free agency next offseason.

There is no doubt in my mind that Glennon can start in the NFL. And the decision makers I've spoken to, for the most part, agree. Yet for Tampa, there is internal value. The curious case of Mike Glennoncontinues.

Follow Adam Schein on Twitter @AdamSchein.

[AFJF]

7 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

Mike Glennon should entice Rams, Jets, Broncos and Cowboys

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• By Adam Schein
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• Published: April 7, 2016 at 12:45 p.m.
• Updated: April 7, 2016 at 03:17 p.m.
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We're into spring, summer's just around the corner ... and numerous teams are still in the market for a quarterback. Oh, and there aren't enough quarterbacks to go around.

Which leads us to the curious case of Mike Glennon, who is one of the top 32 quarterbacks in the NFL, yet is rarely included in the conversation. Why? Well, it's interesting.

I've always been a Glennon fan. I liked him coming out of North Carolina State. Mark Dominik and Greg Schiano liked him a lot, too: The old Tampa Bay Buccaneers regime stole him in the third round of the2013 NFL Draft. But then Schiano made a mistake: He played Josh Freeman to start that season. Freeman wasn't a player (having thrown 39 interceptions in the prior two seasons) or a leader (as evidenced by the acrimony that built between Freeman and the team prior to his eventual midseason release). Freeman was a bust, but Schiano and Co. started him over the rookie Glennon in the first three games of the season. The Bucs went 0-3, setting the tone for what would become Schiano and Dominik's final season in Tampa Bay.

 

 

Glennon did end up starting 13 games for Tampa that year, and he showed plenty of promise, throwing 19 touchdown passes against just nine picks despite playing behind a porous offensive line. Glennon nearly beat the eventual Super Bowl champion Seahawks in Seattle, which was unheard of in 2013.

When Dominik and Schiano got canned, Lovie Smith entered the picture. The new coach signed Josh McCown early in free agency and didn't allow Glennon to legitimately compete for the job. In a related story, the 2014 Bucs won two games. In another related story, Lovie Smith got fired after two years on the job.

Tampa now has its quarterback of the present and future in Jameis Winston. Glennon represents the ultimate insurance in the final year of his rookie contract, which is why savvy Bucs general manager Jason Licht isn't going to deal him haphazardly, if at all. But Tampa does need players. And quality quarterbacks are rare commodities. If I asked you 365 days ago if you'd rank Glennon ahead of Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Sam Bradford, Case Keenum -- heck, even Brock Osweiler -- what would you have said?

So, this week, I started posing questions about Glennon to various power brokers across the NFL.

One NFL general manager said, "Glennon is the perfect fit for the Jets. Good arm. Good fit in [Chan] Gailey's offense. Younger and better than [Ryan] Fitzpatrick."

Another GM said, "I hope he doesn't get traded into my division."

One personnel director said, "I don't know. He couldn't play in front of Josh McCown. That's a red flag."

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A third general manager disagreed completely: "If you gave me a choice of Ryan Tannehill or Mike Glennon, give me Mike Glennon. He's smart. He has a great reputation as a worker. He's a middle-of-the-pack starter in the NFL."

I asked that third GM about compensation in a trade. The response? "He's worth a 2. Especially this year. I'd take him in 2016 over the quarterbacks that will go on Day 2 of the draft. That's what Tampa should hold out for. Or work him in a deal with theJets involving Mo Wilkerson and picks."

On Wednesday's edition of my SiriusXM Radio show, "Schein on Sports," I asked NFL on CBS lead analyst Phil Simms for his take on Glennon and why he doesn't get a shot. Phil's a Glennon fan and had a fascinating answer:

"Because he's Mike Glennon. Well, who's he? Oh, he wasn't picked in the first round, he wasn't a star -- and it goes on and on. I've said this many times about him: I thought, when he came out, he was very close to Matt Ryan. You heard his offensive coordinator, Dana Bible, say he's ahead of Matt Ryan when he got out of North Carolina State. [Bible coached Ryan at Boston College.] When you watch him, he's going to make it as a starting quarterback in the NFL when the team he is on is good enough to win enough games, and be a team that goes out there every week, and you know they can win and score and stuff and have a chance to ... And the starter gets hurt, and he comes in and does really, really well. Then somebody is going to go out and get him and make him their quarterback -- a team that is ready to go, not a startup team like San Francisco or Cleveland. But a team that goes, 'We bring him in, he's the guy -- we're ready to go win here and he could be the guy.' You gotta catch lightning in a bottle, that's what I believe. That's just how it is with guys like Mike Glennon."

Point taken.

So which teams make the most sense for Glennon? Let's take a look across the league ...

Los Angeles Rams: If Case Keenum is the answer, I'd love to know the question. Picking 15th later this month, Los Angeles isn't going to be able to draft Carson Wentz or Jared Goff. So unless the Rams like -- and can get -- Paxton Lynch at 15, why not go after Glennon? By the way, the Rams have an extra second-round pick ...

 

 

New York Jets: The smart money is still on Ryan Fitzpatrick going back to New York. The market for him clearly just hasn't developed elsewhere. Fitz needs the Jets, and the Jets need him, giventhe rapport he has with Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker. I think Glennon could be better than Fitz, though he would have to develop the relationship that Fitzpatrick established with his guys in a highly productive 2015 campaign.

Denver Broncos: The Super Bowlchampions need a quarterback. (Sorry, Mark Sanchez -- I'm just not seeing it.)

Dallas Cowboys: Glennon fills two voids, giving the Cowboys an experienced backup (with 18 starts under his belt) for now and a promising quarterback for the future. I wrote about the Cowboys' options with the No. 4 pick earlier this week. I'd take Wentz if he's there. If not? Gimme Ezekiel Elliott or Joey Bosa. So let's say the 'Boys do indeed go non-quarterback in Round 1. Would you rather have Glennon or Connor Cook/Christian Hackenberg backing up Tony Romo in 2016?

San Francisco 49ers: As Simms alluded, the 49ers aren't in the greatest shape when it comes to the overall roster. But this remains one of the NFL's most storied franchises, with a rich history in quarterbacking, so I must examine this possibility. Now, I've written many times that Colin Kaepernick should stay in San Francisco and play for Chip Kelly. And he should never consider giving up any money. But if Kap does fly the coop, how about Glennon?

 

 

Buffalo Bills: The Bills are working out quarterback prospects -- and they should. As GM Doug Whaley said on NFL Network on Thursday morning,"time will tell" if Tyrod Taylor is the long-term solution. What if the price for Glennon becomes a third-rounder?

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: If Licht doesn't get what he wants, Glennon stays put. But Licht wasn't with the team when Glennon was drafted. What if the Bucs GM has a chance to get a solid return and invest in a player at another position? One thing to stress, though: In my opinion, Glennon is the ideal backup for Winston in 2016. The Bucs can keep him for this year -- he's a team player and offers great insurance should Winston go down -- and then Tampa can receive a compensatory pick if he leaves in free agency next offseason.

There is no doubt in my mind that Glennon can start in the NFL. And the decision makers I've spoken to, for the most part, agree. Yet for Tampa, there is internal value. The curious case of Mike Glennoncontinues.

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Not a Schein fan, but great quotes from insiders on Glennon and obviously Simms thinks quite a bit of him.  Just wish they'd get this done.

[hawk]

58 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

I think a trade goes through with Kaep going to Denver and Glennon goes to San Fran... But I hope not.

 

55 minutes ago, AFJF said:

Glennon is a million miles from what Chip Kelly looks for in a QB.  Not saying he isn't crazy enough to do it after trading for Bradford, but he wants a guy who can run and has no desire to have the QB throw the ball beyond 15 yards.  Fitz is a better fit for SF than Glennon.

Kaep to Denver, Geno to SF, and Glennon to NY.

[AFJF]

Just now, hawk said:

 

Kaep to Denver, Geno to SF, and Glennon to NY.

Wouldn't surprise me at all and I'd be doing backflips.

[Villain The Foe]

12 minutes ago, AFJF said:

Not a Schein fan, but great quotes from insiders on Glennon and obviously Simms thinks quite a bit of him.  Just wish they'd get this done.

I hope so too. If another team trades for Glennon I will for sure be pissed about it. I was really nervous that we were going to pick up Fitz the moment Ferguson retired. I really hope Macc gets this done. Trade Wilk to Tampa and get Glennon and a pick. 

[Villain The Foe]

9 minutes ago, hawk said:

 

Kaep to Denver, Geno to SF, and Glennon to NY.

That could actually work.

[Dcat]

1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said:

I think a trade goes through with Kaep going to Denver and Glennon goes to San Fran... But I hope not.

That one makes sense. The one that has Geno going to SFO and Glennon here is silly.  

I think we can forget Glennon.  I think the they have a deal in place with Fitz so trading for Glennon makes no sense since Fitz would start. 

 

[YankeeJet22]

2 hours ago, Villain The Foe said:

So whats YOUR answer? 

 

I've never been a fan of a critic who gives their 2 cents yet never leaves anything in regards to an alternative. 

Not sure really. I'd love to draft a QB high. Lynch at 20, Cook or Hackenberg in the 2nd/3rd. 

I lliked Glennon coming out of NC State.  He has lots of potential. But so does Geno. 

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, Dcat said:

That one makes sense. The one that has Geno going to SFO and Glennon here is silly.  

I think we can forget Glennon.  I think the they have a deal in place with Fitz so trading for Glennon makes no sense since Fitz would start. 

 

I think there's nothing in place for Fitz.  I think he overplayed his hand and now the Jets are aware there is no market for Fitz so they'll sit and wait with nothing happening until after the draft.

[pointman]

If there was a deal in place for fitz why is he not signed? No deal, and I'm glad. 

[Villain The Foe]

4 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

I think there's nothing in place for Fitz.  I think he overplayed his hand and now the Jets are aware there is no market for Fitz so they'll sit and wait with nothing happening until after the draft.

yup. It would be silly for the jets not to. 

[Patriot Killa]

things are soon to play out with the draft coming up.. that's when most of the dominos will fall.

[Jet Nut]

2 hours ago, Villain The Foe said:

yup. It would be silly for the jets not to. 

Who knows what may happen these next few weeks leading up to and after the draft, who may become available at the last minute.  Why should we back ourselves into a corner today, after waiting this long.  Fitz screwed up, thought he had a lot more leverage than he did.  He treated the Jets negotiations like a business and they're going to do the same 

[sourceworx]

Please get this guy. I loved Glennon when he was in college.

Send Tampa Mo Wilk for Glennon and a pick. Get an edge rusher in the first, then rebuild the O-Line.

[flgreen]

12 hours ago, hawk said:

 

Kaep to Denver, Geno to SF, and Glennon to NY.

I actually like this scenario, and think it is possible.  The problem with giving up a 2nd for Glennon is his contract.  You can't give up a 2nd, and let him walk next season.

 

[Villain The Foe]

43 minutes ago, flgreen said:

I actually like this scenario, and think it is possible.  The problem with giving up a 2nd for Glennon is his contract.  You can't give up a 2nd, and let him walk next season.

 

I think that the deal will require a restructuring, like with Ryan Clady who restructured his contract with the Jets before signing. If the Jets end up spending a 2nd they're going to get guarantees. Macc isnt going to trade a 2nd for Glennon with the possibility of losing him 1 year later and the only course of action is franchising him. I mean, it could happen that way...but nothing Macc has done in regards to trades has given me the indication that he has no idea what he's doing. 

[Augustiniak]

i'm still amazed at all the glennon love.  does anyone here really think mccagnan, who thus far appears to be a pretty good talent evaluator, would want the most immobile qb in the nfl running his team?  how many key 1st downs did fitz get scrambling last year (granted the guy needs to slide more)?  

[AFJF]

14 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

i'm still amazed at all the glennon love.  does anyone here really think mccagnan, who thus far appears to be a pretty good talent evaluator, would want the most immobile qb in the nfl running his team?  how many key 1st downs did fitz get scrambling last year (granted the guy needs to slide more)?  

So the Jets should pass on a young QB with high upside because Fitz scrambled a few times?

[Warfish]

18 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

I think that the deal will require a restructuring, like with Ryan Clady who restructured his contract with the Jets before signing. If the Jets end up spending a 2nd they're going to get guarantees. Macc isnt going to trade a 2nd for Glennon with the possibility of losing him 1 year later and the only course of action is franchising him. I mean, it could happen that way...but nothing Macc has done in regards to trades has given me the indication that he has no idea what he's doing. 

So what kind of extension (contract years, dollar/year, bonus amount) should Macc give to Glennon, presuming we are willing to trade a 2nd Round Pick to acquire him?

[Villain The Foe]

9 minutes ago, Warfish said:

So what kind of extension (contract years, dollar/year, bonus amount) should Macc give to Glennon, presuming we are willing to trade a 2nd Round Pick to acquire him?

4-5 years, 2 years guaranteed with the option to review the deal at the end of the 2nd year to either give him a bigger contract, cut him he he doesnt pan out and his guaranteed money is finished or leave him where he is if his production is a reflection of his salary, all the while having the option to move on if we like. 

[Warfish]

32 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

4-5 years, 2 years guaranteed with the option to review the deal at the end of the 2nd year to either give him a bigger contract, cut him he he doesnt pan out and his guaranteed money is finished or leave him where he is if his production is a reflection of his salary, all the while having the option to move on if we like. 

And how much per year and how much signing bonus?

[flgreen]

56 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

I think that the deal will require a restructuring, like with Ryan Clady who restructured his contract with the Jets before signing. If the Jets end up spending a 2nd they're going to get guarantees. Macc isnt going to trade a 2nd for Glennon with the possibility of losing him 1 year later and the only course of action is franchising him. I mean, it could happen that way...but nothing Macc has done in regards to trades has given me the indication that he has no idea what he's doing. 

I agree

 

Eaiser said then done.  The Clady situation was different in that Clady has been injured 2 of the last 3 years.  He didn't have all that much bargaining power.

Glennon is different.  He more then likely would love to play on a one year deal with the Jets with Marshall and Decker.  Get his #'s up, and go into FA and score big.

 

This will be very tricky stuff contract wise.  Even if Macc likes him, may screw up a deal.  

[Adoni Beast]

Stating the obvious here, the league has been implementing rules around protecting QB's to increase scoring etc bla bla bla. Yes we all know this is true, and finding a franchise QB is even more important than it ever has been before.

But now, even more so after the concussion issues, and studies, with players retiring earlier than they used to, this league will basically be a QB challenge moving forward. More and more players are gonna get drafted, get that big pay day and call it quits to ensure their health. I can't say I blame them. The position that is going to be least affected is the one that is most protected. Franchise quarterback has been, is, and will always be the most important factor in sustaining success in the NFL, but that % of importance is going to skew even higher the next 5 - 10 years. We need a QB for the future badly. Keep drafting, trading for young ones, grooming them until we hit. Soon the game is going to be all QB and OL.

Overpaying players like MO (who I really like) when they aren't game changers like JJ Watt, will only strap this team for cash if/when we do find that franchise QB and draft that LT to protect him for years. Mo ain't Von or Watt. I'd rather take chances trading for Glennon, and drafting QB's and OL.

[Augustiniak]

47 minutes ago, AFJF said:

So the Jets should pass on a young QB with high upside because Fitz scrambled a few times?

glennon does not have high upside.  

[Tinstar]

We are so sad . We're sitting around arguing/ discussing our options at QB and those options include a never was Journeyman and a prospect deemed not good enough by the lowly Tampa Bay Bucs.

So sad . 

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, Tinstar said:

We are so sad . We're sitting around arguing/ discussing our options at QB and those options include a never was Journeyman and a prospect deemed not good enough by the lowly Tampa Bay Bucs.

So sad . 

exactly.  mccags spent years at houston on good teams that couldn't go anywhere with schaub and hoyer.  does anyone really think he wants guys like fitz and glennon and recreate that here?  he wants a young, athletic guy to groom.