Integrity28 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 ESPN's Adam Schefter reports "several teams" are interested in acquiring Nick Foles. Foles is a goner from the Rams after he flopped badly as an 11-game starter in his lone season with the team. The Rams will move forward with their No. 1 overall pick, either Jared Goff or Carson Wentz, and Case Keenum and Sean Mannion as the backups. Foles is a candidate to be traded this weekend with the Rams being lucky to get anything more than a late-round pick in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Foles is an interesting study, on the one hand he had that amazing year under Chip Kelly, on the other hand he has looked pretty bad at times as well. His contract as is looks too ugly to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Foles is an interesting study, on the one hand he had that amazing year under Chip Kelly, on the other hand he has looked pretty bad at times as well. His contract as is looks too ugly to me. I don't put much stock in him looking bad in a Jeff Fisher + Brian Schottenheimer offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 so are you going to create a separate thread for every single terrible quarterback who might become available, or Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I don't put much stock in him looking bad in a Jeff Fisher + Brian Schottenheimer offense. Fair, but I DO put stock in him looking very pedestrian in Year 2 of the Chip Kelly offense (59.8 % completions, 13 TD's, 10 INT's), then being traded for 2-ACL tear Sam Bradford. Chip's offense took the league by storm in Year 1. When defenses had an offseason of tape to review, Foles showed what he really was. Last year was a lot closer to the "Real Foles" than 2013 Pro Bowl Foles, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Fair, but I DO put stock in him looking very pedestrian in Year 2 of the Chip Kelly offense (59.8 % completions, 13 TD's, 10 INT's), then being traded for 2-ACL tear Sam Bradford. Chip's offense took the league by storm in Year 1. When defenses had an offseason of tape to review, Foles showed what he really was. I can't remember, but didn't Foles look okay in Andy Reid's offense for a stint too? For a 7th rounder, I wouldn't mind adding him to our QB room. I think with a stable situation and some solid coaching he could be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: so are you going to create a separate thread for every single terrible quarterback who might become available, or well, now I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: so are you going to create a separate thread for every single terrible quarterback who might become available, or Fitz was a "terrible" QB heading into last year as well. With Fitz asking for too much money guys like Foles/Hoyer/Bradford (although his contract makes him untradeable) become viable options. We aren't finding a franchise QB in free agency and we aren't finding a QB for 2016 at #20 in the draft. So we are left to scramble for what's left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I can't remember, but didn't Foles look okay in Andy Reid's offense for a stint too? For a 7th rounder, I wouldn't mind adding him to our QB room. I think with a stable situation and some solid coaching he could be alright. Sure, if a 7th rounder is all it would take. Foles put up similar numbers in limited work in 2012 as he did in 2014 and '15: 6 TD's, 5 picks, 60.8 % and the team went 1-5. Basically the key is not to be enamored by his 2013 film. It's an anomaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 We can;'t take on that existing contract even for a 7th rounder imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 so are you going to create a separate thread for every single terrible quarterback who might become available, or Considering how bad our QB situation is I don't think it's such a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: well, now I am joewilly28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, dbatesman said: joewilly28 Slow down. He still needs to post two things before you can call him that: 1) "A change of scenery might do him some good." 2) "47 years and counting..." Until then, you're out of line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I really wish Jets fans would get off the QB Merry-Go-Round. From Glennon and now Foles and I know someone is going to trump up Bradford before too long, not to mention Hoyer. All these guys have proven that they are limited QB's with little to no upside and I would not want any of them. The Jets WILL ultimately resign Fitzpatrick, draft a QB in the later rounds - I am hoping for Kevin Hogan - and will continue to develop Bryce Petty. I think that is the smart way to go and I think Mac will get these things done. If Paxton Lynch miraculously falls to 20 the Jets should snap him up in a heartbeat, but that is a longshot. BPA all the way and build through the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Fitz will be the saviour before even playing a down this season. This sh*t needs to end before we bave Christian Ponder threads up in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Nick Foles is a good QB. He was better than Sanchez as far as being able to lead the team and Chip Kelly was nuts; he gutted the offensive talent on that the Eagles and then they were supposed to keep on winning. It was a joke! No, I am not advocating to get Foles but folks who never saw more than a handful of games as an Eagle shouldn't be knocking the guy................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 15 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Nick Foles is a good QB. He was better than Sanchez as far as being able to lead the team and Chip Kelly was nuts; he gutted the offensive talent on that the Eagles and then they were supposed to keep on winning. It was a joke! No, I am not advocating to get Foles but folks who never saw more than a handful of games as an Eagle shouldn't be knocking the guy................... Mark elevated that offense in 2014, they didn't win as many games b/c 5 of Mark's 8 starts were against teams that made the div rd or later and the D was atrocious but mark had the O running at its highest efficiency that 2nd half of 2014. Quote Last season, with Sanchez at the helm after Nick Foles was injured, the Eagles' offense averaged 2.9 points per drive, the best mark any quarterback has put up in head coach Chip Kelly's offense with the Eagles. Sanchez went 4-4 in his eight games as a starter, but the schedule had plenty to do with that, as he faced three of the best teams in the NFC in the final month of the season. http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/11/can_mark_sanchez_be_spark_for_eagles_offense.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Foles is garbage. Said it last year. Saying it this year. Um, pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I would take Foles for a late round pick as he had a 27-2 TD/INT ratio his first year when Bill Lazor was his OC, as long as we do not trade a high pick for Bradford I will be fine. I agree no more re-treads, the only exception is Glennon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Integrity28 said: I don't put much stock in him looking bad in a Jeff Fisher + Brian Schottenheimer offense. How about looking very bad in a Chip Kelly offense? Don't forget, Kelly let him go for a reason. He is not accurate. Can't blame a QB's numbers on his coaches. HAckenberg tried to do that recently after his pro day and it went badly for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 ABGFSM Anybody But Geno For Short Money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Ex-Rex said: I really wish Jets fans would get off the QB Merry-Go-Round. From Glennon and now Foles and I know someone is going to trump up Bradford before too long, not to mention Hoyer. All these guys have proven that they are limited QB's with little to no upside and I would not want any of them. The Jets WILL ultimately resign Fitzpatrick, draft a QB in the later rounds - I am hoping for Kevin Hogan - and will continue to develop Bryce Petty. I think that is the smart way to go and I think Mac will get these things done. If Paxton Lynch miraculously falls to 20 the Jets should snap him up in a heartbeat, but that is a longshot. BPA all the way and build through the draft. Hogan is a gamer but he needs to work on that throwing motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Snell41 said: Considering how bad our QB situation is I don't think it's such a bad idea. Decisions of this sort end up being a choice from a range of options that all have some negatives. But the starting point right now is that the Jets current depth chart has Geno Smith at the top of it. That is nausea inducing bad. Something has to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 hour ago, nyjunc said: Mark elevated that offense in 2014, they didn't win as many games b/c 5 of Mark's 8 starts were against teams that made the div rd or later and the D was atrocious but mark had the O running at its highest efficiency that 2nd half of 2014. http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/11/can_mark_sanchez_be_spark_for_eagles_offense.html Not to derail the thread but I'm curious to know how you think Sanchez will fair in Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, legler82 said: Not to derail the thread but I'm curious to know how you think Sanchez will fair in Denver. He is what he is, he's not a great QB and never will be but you can win with him w/ the right amount of talent around him. Den has taken a hit on D but I expect Thomas will bounce back and he has more talent than he ever had here so I expect their O will be a lot better than last year. I think Denver would be a playoff team w/ him, I don't think SB team b/c I don't think their D will be as dominating as a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, nyjunc said: He is what he is, he's not a great QB and never will be but you can win with him w/ the right amount of talent around him. Den has taken a hit on D but I expect Thomas will bounce back and he has more talent than he ever had here so I expect their O will be a lot better than last year. I think Denver would be a playoff team w/ him, I don't think SB team b/c I don't think their D will be as dominating as a year ago. I think Mark could win it all in Denver... I really do.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: I think Mark could win it all in Denver... I really do.. If he gets the chance they can win a lot of games but I am not sure they can repeat b/c of all the hits on D they have taken BUT I also expect a much better Demaryius Thomas so that could counter that. we'll see, I just hope whoever our QB is can help us get to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Foles, Hoyer, McCown, Bradford, Fitz, Glennon. Where does it end???? With each new name added to the stiff carousel, it gets harder and harder to understand why the Jets are even entertaining bottom feeding at a position that can't achieve sustained success without top shelf talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 minute ago, ChuckkieB said: Foles, Hoyer, McCown, Bradford, Fitz, Glennon. Where does it end???? With each new name added to the stiff carousel, it gets harder and harder to understand why the Jets are even entertaining bottom feeding at a position that can't achieve sustained success without top shelf talent. You got a better idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 22 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: Foles, Hoyer, McCown, Bradford, Fitz, Glennon. Where does it end???? With each new name added to the stiff carousel, it gets harder and harder to understand why the Jets are even entertaining bottom feeding at a position that can't achieve sustained success without top shelf talent. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 42 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: You got a better idea? Right? WTF do they want Jet fans to do? No QB is gonna just miraculously appear. Foles, Bradford might actually play BETTER than Fitz in this offense, who's to say? In fact, Foles played best in offenses where he worked fast & got the ball out quickly which is exactly what Chan preaches. Having Forte as an outlet is a godsend to whovever we put under center. A rookie picked in this 2016 draft is NOT STARTING, so, if Fitz doesn't resign, your looking at the Hoyer, Foles, Geno, Bradfords ect of the world. I'm trying to figure out why we should all stop talking about these QBs when chances are that's the direction we're going to HAVE TO GO IN, if it's not Fitz. This isn't rocket science. No one can go back into their posts from last year & show me how they thought Fitz would go 10-6 & throw 31 TDs, so don't f*cking sit here & tell me that every f*cking QB discussed on these boards will sure as sh*t fail QBing this team next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 55 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: Foles, Hoyer, McCown, Bradford, Fitz, Glennon. Where does it end???? With each new name added to the stiff carousel, it gets harder and harder to understand why the Jets are even entertaining bottom feeding at a position that can't achieve sustained success without top shelf talent. Maccagnan should be on the phone with Green Bay to get Aaron Rodgers here, amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just now, sourceworx said: Maccagnan should be on the phone with Green Bay to get Aaron Rodgers here, amirite? No. He should draft a QB (if he really thinks one can be a franchise QB), and if not, I would bite the bullet and start Petty and see if he's a keeper or not. Why start anyone on the veteran stiff carousel? So we can go 6-10 with a going nowhere QB, or go 4-12 with a 2nd year QB who MAYBE might just prove he can play in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just now, ChuckkieB said: No. He should draft a QB (if he really thinks one can be a franchise QB), and if not, I would bite the bullet and start Petty and see if he's a keeper or not. Why start anyone on the veteran stiff carousel? So we can go 6-10 with a going nowhere QB, or go 4-12 with a 2nd year QB who MAYBE might just prove he can play in this league. In other words, you want to tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: In other words, you want to tank I don't want to tank, but I just don't see the Jets as a playoff team in 2016, and if that's the case, wouldn't you rather spend the season finding out if you actually have a franchise QB in Petty than watch The Hoyer's of the world be mediocre at best all year? I'm sick of the Jets spinning their wheel;s with the most important position on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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