Gas2No99 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Jets' Todd Bowles on Brandon Marshall-Darrelle Revis skirmish: 'It's not charm school' By Darryl Slater | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com FLORHAM PARK — While Jets coach Todd Bowles said after Friday's training camp practice that players can't just go around taking swings at each other, he did enjoy the spirit behind wide receiver Brandon Marshall and cornerback Darrelle Revis getting into a skirmish during the practice. The on-field matchup and trash talking between the two stars escalated to the point that Marshall took a one-handed, open-hand swipe that connected with Revis' shoulder pads. Teammates quickly diffused the dust-up. "We don't condone swinging, and we talked about it," Bowles said. "It's about that time of camp when it gets a little chippy. But we put it out before it got started." But Bowles also said this: "You love them competing. You need some motivation. You're going to get pissed off in camp as a player. It's not charm school. Both of them got to where they were for making plays and for not backing down. Neither player is going to back down. You like that about the competitiveness. You've just got to keep it clean. For the most part, they did." Friday was the Jets' eighth practice of camp, and fifth in full pads. They practice again Saturday evening, before Sunday's off day. Could more fireworks be in store Saturday, during the team's fifth consecutive practice? Bowles, for one, certainly wouldn't mind, as long as his players don't cross a line. He likes this edginess. "Love it," he said. "It's football. We're not here judging a beauty pageant. You want some players that are chippy and know how to play and keep it clean. But you want them on the edge." Bowles also didn't mind Marshall loudly trash talking Revis about the cornerback's struggles last season against Texans receiver DeAndre Hopkins. "You're going to use any means necessary when you're on the field," Bowles said. "They're going to get under your skin on Sunday. There are things you hear on Sunday that are a billion times worse than that. They both have tools to get under each other's skin, especially when it gets chippy. That's just part of the mess talk." Marshall and Revis didn't match up on the field again after Marshall took his swing. But Bowles said that was because Revis, who is recovering from right wrist surgery, was on a pre-planned schedule, as far as his practice reps. Of course, if Revis had put up his right arm to defend himself against Marshall's swipe, and Marshall ended up hitting Revis' wrist, that could've been an issue. "You don't want to swing at a player regardless of whether he's hurt or not," Bowles said, adding that Revis didn't appear to have any issues with his wrist while jamming Marshall off the line of scrimmage Friday — an encouraging sign as Revis continues to get more reps in practice. Remember, Friday was just Revis' second practice since the end of last season in which he got significant team periods action. Bowles, a former NFL safety, said this sort of chippy stuff happens all around the league in August. "Everybody gets chippy," he said. "It's nothing to write home about. I don't think it was an outburst [by Marshall]. I think it was two good players going at it, and they talked mess. It got chippy, but it's camp. It's supposed to be." Bowles said plenty of players were talking trash on Friday. Not just those two stars. Though Marshall was much louder than all the rest. "There was a lot of chippiness going on out there," Bowles said. "You hit each other for enough time, people get frustrated. You like the motivation, you like the spirit of practice, but we're not going to punch anybody. You can talk as much as you want. You're going to get that on Sunday [during games]." He isn't worried about Marshall's swing — and his insults hurled at Revis — having a negative impact with his teammates. "No, I'm not worried about it at all," Bowles said. "Everybody was talking out there. I don't think you solely leave that exclusive to Brandon." Darryl Slater may be reached at dslater@njadvancemedia.com. Todd Bowles: EVEN-keeled MuthaPhuka on ICE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 How motivated are our young players? These guys just got an up close & personel view of two HOFers going at it. Marshall & Revis don't back down from nobody, including each other. After Marshall trashed him about Hopkins smoking him last year, Revis could have reminded Brandon had he caught that TD in New England the Jets would have won the AFC East. Its funny, we can talk about Fitz, special teams, Ivory & Ridley breaking down but you really can go back to that one moment, very easy catch that would have put us up 7 on the road & we didn't make the play that was right there for the taking. 16 games & one drop could have been the difference of 10-6 no playoffs to 11-5 division champions. That's how small the difference really is in this league. The Patriots success is based on one play at a time. It's been drilled into them by Belichick & Brady has taken it to an incredible level. That's why Brady goes off when people aren't where they should be or someone drops a ball. Every play does count in this league, you don't get many do overs until the next week after a tough loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 He also could have reminded Marshall about the "lateral" which cost us the Eagles game. Bottom line: Two great players taking thier football seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 The camp reports and tweets seem to have a common tone through them UNFINISHED BUSINESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Marshall swung with an open hand. Good thing many sports players don't know how to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 An open hand has a TOTALLY different intent that a closed fist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 1 minute ago, LIJetsFan said: An open hand has a TOTALLY different intent that a closed fist. Exactly. Open hand swipe is an extension of trash talk. Closed fist is lets get it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Sounds like it was more of a push. Everybody wants to hype it up into something more than what it was. It's all good though. They need to start getting fired up. Anybody whose played football knows it's just part of the prep. Happens all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 29 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: An open hand has a TOTALLY different intent that a closed fist. Yea, there was no punch ... This skirmish is not news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Jetster said: How motivated are our young players? These guys just got an up close & personel view of two HOFers going at it. Marshall & Revis don't back down from nobody, including each other. After Marshall trashed him about Hopkins smoking him last year, Revis could have reminded Brandon had he caught that TD in New England the Jets would have won the AFC East. Its funny, we can talk about Fitz, special teams, Ivory & Ridley breaking down but you really can go back to that one moment, very easy catch that would have put us up 7 on the road & we didn't make the play that was right there for the taking. 16 games & one drop could have been the difference of 10-6 no playoffs to 11-5 division champions. That's how small the difference really is in this league. The Patriots success is based on one play at a time. It's been drilled into them by Belichick & Brady has taken it to an incredible level. That's why Brady goes off when people aren't where they should be or someone drops a ball. Every play does count in this league, you don't get many do overs until the next week after a tough loss. Good point. Almost all of Last years losses, as I've stated elsewhere, we're all marked by a single play or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Media overreaction on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Pretty cool that young mushes with seemingly minimal testicular fortitude (Amaro, Milliner, Hackenberg, Geno, Devin Smith) get to watch two old vets with millions in the bank still going hard in a practice in August on a Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 My paranoid jets fan side wonders if Marshall just wants headlines for his hbo gig after this and the porche stunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 It just came to me yesterday that we have two future HOF players on both sides of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 One reason the doom and gloom crowd is so glum. They don't comprehend our true talent level compared to the rest of the league. We are deep everywhere but OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 13 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: One reason the doom and gloom crowd is so glum. They don't comprehend our true talent level compared to the rest of the league. We are deep everywhere but OL. If we won the SB they would be looking for negative stats and giving excuses for winning. If you think the Jets franchise doesn't know how to win the same goes for it's fans. Some of them will never be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Seeing two old guys practicing that hard can only help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Most important is Bowles reaction..no panic, no uproar...just keep it clean. it's just camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I think anyone who slaps people going forward should have to pay Nick and Nate Diaz royalties on the slap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Jetdawgg said: Marshall swung with an open hand. Good thing many sports players don't know how to fight. Like this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Gastineau Lives said: Like this guy? Google the story of when he punked Urlacher. Maaaaybe my favorite celeb story ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Just now, RutgersJetFan said: Google the story of when he punked Urlacher. Maaaaybe my favorite celeb story ever. LOL I love that story. If Rick James was also in it and it was told by Charlie Murphy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 This is what I want from my star players. Psuhing the limits of competition, getting the best out of each other. Besides the punch/push to he shoulder, like Bowles said, all players hear worse taunting on Sundays. This isn't wayne hunter giving a cheap shot to some rookie nose tackle in camp and the whole team brawls. This is two people trying to win a championship and showing the team everyone better let their balls hang out this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Pretty cool that young mushes with seemingly minimal testicular fortitude (Amaro, Milliner, Hackenberg, Geno, Devin Smith) get to watch two old vets with millions in the bank still going hard in a practice in August on a Friday. THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 This isn't Charm School Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 11 minutes ago, daquix said: I'm usually just a lurker, but I had to create an account just to laugh at you calling Marshall a HOFer HAHAHAHAHAHHA There are 15+ WR's with more receptions that are not in the HOF There are 20+ WR's with more receiving yards that are not in the HOF There are 15+ WR's with more receiving TD's that are not in the HOF Not to even mention that WR is one of the hardest positions to get into the HOF as. He is SO SO SO far away from the HOF that your post literally made me laugh out loud. Thank you for the laugh. Numbers are cool. They can do anything we want in an argument. They speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I'm usually just a lurker, but I had to create an account just to laugh at you calling Marshall a HOFer HAHAHAHAHAHHA There are 15+ WR's with more receptions that are not in the HOF There are 20+ WR's with more receiving yards that are not in the HOF There are 15+ WR's with more receiving TD's that are not in the HOF Not to even mention that WR is one of the hardest positions to get into the HOF as. He is SO SO SO far away from the HOF that your post literally made me laugh out loud. Thank you for the laugh. How much you want to bet, genius? He's already got the most 100 catch seasons in NFL history http://national.suntimes.com/national-sports/7/72/2347111/brandon-marshall-breaks-nfl-record-100-catch-seasons/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 1 minute ago, daquix said: True. And I like Brandon Marshall. He's a good player. But HOF? That's literally spit out your coffee hilarious. There is a back-order of all-time great NFL WR's waiting to get into the hall of fame. Tim Brown, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Torry Holt, Stanley Morgan, Isaac Bruce, Drew Pearson ... and the list could keep going. All receivers who would need to get in before Brandon Marshall even SNIFFS a spot. The HOF has a WR problem -- It's only elected 9 in the last 15 years. There are several years they select none. This is the better post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Anything you want. The HOF has a WR problem. It doesn't elect many. 9 in the last 15 years and many years they elect NONE. There are close to a dozen great WR's that need to be elected before Marshall even sniffs a spot. It'll be 20+ years before the currently retired WR's who need to get in are all in, and then Marshall might have a chance... and that's only if other young players don't come up through the pipeline to overtake him. LOLOLOL marshall in the HOF. Blah, blah, blah, Troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Troll because I live in reality? Uhm, ok. No you don't, you lurk...Go back to lurking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 True. And I like Brandon Marshall. He's a good player. But HOF? That's literally spit out your coffee hilarious. There is a back-order of all-time great NFL WR's waiting to get into the hall of fame. Tim Brown, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Torry Holt, Stanley Morgan, Isaac Bruce, Drew Pearson ... and the list could keep going. All receivers who would need to get in before Brandon Marshall even SNIFFS a spot. The HOF has a WR problem -- It's only elected 9 in the last 15 years. There are several years they select none. Every guy you listed, marshall is poised to pass on the stats list...His career is still active, Troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 9 minutes ago, daquix said: True. And I like Brandon Marshall. He's a good player. But HOF? That's literally spit out your coffee hilarious. There is a back-order of all-time great NFL WR's waiting to get into the hall of fame. Tim Brown, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Torry Holt, Stanley Morgan, Isaac Bruce, Drew Pearson ... and the list could keep going. All receivers who would need to get in before Brandon Marshall even SNIFFS a spot. The HOF has a WR problem -- It's only elected 9 in the last 15 years. There are several years they select none. Tim Brown is in the Hall of Fame and Moss is a shoe in the second he is eligible. Owens should be and probably eventually will, same with Holt and Bruce. If Stanley Morgan and Drew Pearson are Hall of Famers, so are Wesley Walker and Laveranues Coles. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Troll because I live in reality? Uhm, ok. Heres reality: All Time Receiving Leaders. Brandon Marshall. 25th in TDs, 10 more TDs gets him to 13th, 12 more gets him to 12th, 20 gets him to 10th. 31st in yards, 1015 yds gets him to 21st, 2000 gets him to 17th. 22nd in receptions, 100 gets him to 14th, 200 gets him to 6th -10th. 13th in YPG. All those 2 year amounts are easily doable for Brandon the way hes playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 24 minutes ago, Klecko73isGod said: Tim Brown is in the Hall of Fame and Moss is a shoe in the second he is eligible. Owens should be and probably eventually will, same with Holt and Bruce. If Stanley Morgan and Drew Pearson are Hall of Famers, so are Wesley Walker and Laveranues Coles. Just sayin'. I'll do you one better, the Jets should also retire Coles' number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Can we get Rex back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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