Integrity28 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Augustiniak said: isn't that a dick move, preventing someone from possibly getting a promotion? 9 times out of 10, the organization asks the candidate if they want to take the interview... if the guy says no, then they decline to save face for him in the future when other suitors may come calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Tinstar said: That worked out real well for Kevin Patullo who probably thought that when Chan Gailey retired he would assume the position . He didn't realize it would be swimming with the fishes . That's on him for failing at the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 46 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: No one wants this job. No QB and a coaching staff on the hot seat. It's a set up to fail job. Hot take, Manish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, JetPotato said: That's on him for failing at the job. Is it true that you can make chicken salad out of chicken S#!+ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 37 minutes ago, Tinstar said: That worked out real well for Kevin Patullo who probably thought that when Chan Gailey retired he would assume the position . He didn't realize it would be swimming with the fishes . Well I think that tells you that he didn't do the job well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 44 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: That's not exactly a good reason..just as likely to get fired with everyone else. How many interim HCs go on to do anything with the team they were the interim HC for? It doesn't matter. It's possible and an ambitious person will recognize that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Adam Schefter ✔@AdamSchefter Eagles denied Jets permission to interview their QB coach John DeFilippo for offensive coordinator job, per league source. 1:19 PM - 5 Jan 2017 614614 Retweets 1,0721,072 likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Didn't think you could deny someone interviewing for a higher level job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just now, Sarge4Tide said: Didn't think you could deny someone interviewing for a higher level job Only HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Paul Hackett come home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Knowing how Bowles seems to like familiarity I am betting the new oc is either Freddie Kitchens or Daryle Drake, both Arizona coaches (Drake WRS, Kitchens QBS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 3 hours ago, DMan77 said: That's the LIKELY outcome, but that's what makes it appealing to risk takers... Yes plenty of people won't touch the Jets with a 10 foot pole, but there will be some who want the challenge... Again maybe not many, but some. It's like playing roulette and instead of taking the 'safe' bet by putting your money on "odd" or "even", you instead take a risk that comes with a much bigger reward by putting on a particular number instead. Turning this offense around with put someone on the head of a HC list in a year or two. There's no doubt. They'd be getting talked up left and right, and guys know that. This job is appealing to someone without any other options who wants to badly be a coordinator. Anyone good with options is not taking this job. Being a good OC will put someone on the head of a HC list in a year or two, too. And the safer/more likely way to do that is to take a job where you can look good. Josh McDaniels was terrible in Denver. Cindy has made him look good and all of a sudden he's a hot commodity again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: It doesn't matter. It's possible and an ambitious person will recognize that It definitely matters which is why you see candidates turn down interviews and offers all the time. Going to bad team is a huge risk because even if you take over as Interim Coach, you'll likely end up fired with everyone else. I've asked you several times to provide examples of top top candidates who have gone to a team with a HC that's on the hot seat, become HC and then been successful. You've been unable to do so which makes your adherence to this hairbrained philosophy all the more confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Eagles denied Jets permission to interview him. Plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, flgreen said: Adam Schefter ✔@AdamSchefter Eagles denied Jets permission to interview their QB coach John DeFilippo for offensive coordinator job, per league source. 1:19 PM - 5 Jan 2017 614614 Retweets 1,0721,072 likes 1 hour ago, Sarge4Tide said: Didn't think you could deny someone interviewing for a higher level job the only way the eagles could get away with this is to give him an assistant HC title I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Tinstar said: Is it true that you can make chicken salad out of chicken S#!+ ? So he should have kept his job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Tinstar said: Is it true that you can make chicken salad out of chicken S#!+ ? Well, yeah. But it's chicken sh*t salad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Have the Jets ever had an assistant coach that another team was so hot for that they actually wanted to steal away from them? Why do I think the answer is "No." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 ^^^^^^^^^ Bill Bellichick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Oh well. Mike McCoy pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjbuddy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Paul Hackett come home! Would Nathaniel Hackett suffice? He may be out of a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 36 minutes ago, JetPotato said: So he should have kept his job? Wasn't up to me, because I don't have the real story . My thinking was if you're talking continuity, then why not give the young apprentice with the old scheme and his own new wrinkles a shot to move the offense forward . Maybe Bowles just can't afford to take that chance . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 5 hours ago, detectivekimble said: This job is appealing to someone without any other options who wants to badly be a coordinator. Anyone good with options is not taking this job. Being a good OC will put someone on the head of a HC list in a year or two, too. And the safer/more likely way to do that is to take a job where you can look good. Josh McDaniels was terrible in Denver. Cindy has made him look good and all of a sudden he's a hot commodity again. Okay but lets be real here... You nor I can speak to the motivations of EVERY coach and coordinator. I believe there's at least a few who would like the challenge and the glory that comes with it... I believe there are at least a couple out there rattling around the idea of glory in their head for turning around a bad team or getting the most out of some players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 15 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: It definitely matters which is why you see candidates turn down interviews and offers all the time. Going to bad team is a huge risk because even if you take over as Interim Coach, you'll likely end up fired with everyone else. I've asked you several times to provide examples of top top candidates who have gone to a team with a HC that's on the hot seat, become HC and then been successful. You've been unable to do so which makes your adherence to this hairbrained philosophy all the more confusing. And I keep telling you that it doesn't matter if it has been done before or not. The point is that it is possible. It probably hasn't been done in the pro ranks. I know it's been done in college a few times (West Virginia springs to mind) But the point is that it is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 15 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: It definitely matters which is why you see candidates turn down interviews and offers all the time. Going to bad team is a huge risk because even if you take over as Interim Coach, you'll likely end up fired with everyone else. I've asked you several times to provide examples of top top candidates who have gone to a team with a HC that's on the hot seat, become HC and then been successful. You've been unable to do so which makes your adherence to this hairbrained philosophy all the more confusing. And I keep telling you that it doesn't matter if it has been done before or not. The point is that it is possible. It probably hasn't been done in the pro ranks. I know it's been done in college a few times (West Virginia springs to mind) But the point is that it is possible. (Sorry double post) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: And I keep telling you that it doesn't matter if it has been done before or not. The point is that it is possible. It probably hasn't been done in the pro ranks. I know it's been done in college a few times (West Virginia springs to mind) But the point is that it is possible So is a chicken sprouting from your butt and solving the formula for cold fusion, but I'm gonna bet that's not gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: So is a chicken sprouting from your butt and solving the formula for cold fusion, but I'm gonna bet that's not gonna happen. The age old question: would you be less willing to eat a chicken that sprouted from a butt, or one that solved the formula for cold fusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 23 hours ago, JetPotato said: That's on him for failing at the job. Sacrificial lamb since Bowles didn't want to fire his boyfriend Kacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 14 hours ago, DMan77 said: Okay but lets be real here... You nor I can speak to the motivations of EVERY coach and coordinator. I believe there's at least a few who would like the challenge and the glory that comes with it... I believe there are at least a couple out there rattling around the idea of glory in their head for turning around a bad team or getting the most out of some players... I hear Bob Diaco is looking for a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, JetPotato said: The age old question: would you be less willing to eat a chicken that sprouted from a butt, or one that solved the formula for cold fusion? If I had both, I'd eat the butt chicken and sell the other one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 The eagles did us a favour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 4 hours ago, bgivs21 said: The eagles did us a favour Moving to London with Woody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Certainly possible that DeFilippo wanted no part of the Jets OC job, and the Eagles did him a favor by "blocking" the interview so DeF didn't have to publicly reject the interview. He saves face by not rejecting a potential promotion... and the Jets, in turn, also save face by not being turned down. I would wait for a better opportunity too if I were him. Integrity28 beat me to the punch with this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 mccoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 33 minutes ago, RoadFan said: Certainly possible that DeFilippo wanted no part of the Jets OC job, and the Eagles did him a favor by "blocking" the interview so DeF didn't have to publicly reject the interview. He saves face by not rejecting a potential promotion... and the Jets, in turn, also save face by not being turned down. I would wait for a better opportunity too if I were him. Integrity28 beat me to the punch with this one... Could be. Another way it also helped him is that it shows that the Eagles think highly of him, and don't think, "Meh, we can get someone better " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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