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2 minutes ago, SAR I said:

I agree completely that we were robbed.  But some of you are missing the big picture which is:

1.  We are not a playoff team.

2.  Therefore wins and losses don't matter.

3.  Effort matters.

4.  Coaching matters.

5.  Young players developing matters.

6.  Team chemistry matters.

The Jets just hung with the Super Bowl Champions and overwhelming AFC favorites.  They played like a team, with passion, with max effort.  Today was an A+ even though we lost.  Today is a day that should make Jets fans happy, not sad.

SAR I

 

All of these things matter way less to me than the fact that this sport sucks.

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36 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I saw a pumpkin that looked like the logo for Gawker and I SMASHED IT and, like that, it’s as if my trucker dad had approved of me this whole time and I just didn’t see it.

92K post and yet nothing?

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1 minute ago, SAR I said:

We're on the same page with everything except the Grassy Knoll.

I don't see how the Patriots winning today helps the NFL in any way.  If this were a conspiracy, the NFL would want the Jets to win.  The "underdog" sells.  And the Giants sucking so badly in the nation's biggest TV market would make the Jets ascension far, far more attractive to advertisers for the balance of the season as the 22 million viewers in the New York area aren't going to watch the Jets or Giants if they both are toasted this early in the year. 

The TV audience is bored to death of Tom Brady and the Patriots.  That's the flaw in the conspiracy argument.  

SAR I

Except you are completely wrong.

The NFL knows about every single one of its fanbases. Here's what it knows about Pats fans and Jets fans.

1) Pats fans will make you lots of money if their team is good. If their team is not good, you lose that major market completely for a while.

2) Jets fans will come back indefinitely. All you have to do is ensure that they compete every three years or so. There's no advantage to them being anything more than mediocre. You can even convince some of them that a PSL is a "good investment"

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4 minutes ago, JetPotato said:

All of these things matter way less to me than the fact that this sport sucks.

I agree with you there too, and as a season ticket holder that's a big problem for the NFL.

There is no competitive balance in the NFL.  You either have a franchise QB or you don't.  It's not that the refs are crooked, it's that the rules are designed to let quarterback-heavy teams win and there are only 8 quality quarterbacks in the league.  So if you have one of those guys, you're bored as you yawn your way to a 11 win season.  And if you don't have one of those guys, you're bored as you sorta but don't pay attention as you fall apart in a 6 win season.

The NFL used to be the best sport because with a strong running game and a decent defense you used to stand a chance of winning.  Today, that doesn't matter.  You either have the QB or you don't.  And the rules changes and replay have made the game maddening and frustrating for fans, no TD is safe, no emotion is spent properly.  It's a mess.  The ratings are finally reflecting it.

SAR I

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I think it's also time for people to realize that the NFL doesn't have rights to the sport of football. Sure it would take more billionaires to start a new league, but competition is a good thing. This is what happens when there is a monopoly (of sorts)

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3 minutes ago, JetPotato said:

Except you are completely wrong.

The NFL knows about every single one of its fanbases. Here's what it knows about Pats fans and Jets fans.

1) Pats fans will make you lots of money if their team is good. If their team is not good, you lose that major market completely for a while.

2) Jets fans will come back indefinitely. All you have to do is ensure that they compete every three years or so. There's no advantage to them being anything more than mediocre. You can even convince some of them that a PSL is a "good investment"

You're talking about fans in the stadium when you should be talking about TV ratings.

The Boston market is #7 with 2.4 million homes watching at any given moment.   The New York market is #1 with 7.4 million homes.  If Boston increases 10% because of the Patriots winning while New York decreases 20% because of the Jets and Giants losing, the NFL loses a massive amount of ad revenue.

If the game were fixed for the "greedy NFL", the Jets would have gotten all the calls, not the Patriots.

SAR I

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11 minutes ago, SAR I said:

I agree with you there too, and as a season ticket holder that's a big problem for the NFL.

There is no competitive balance in the NFL.  You either have a franchise QB or you don't.  It's not that the refs are crooked, it's that the rules are designed to let quarterback-heavy teams win and there are only 8 quality quarterbacks in the league.  So if you have one of those guys, you're bored as you yawn your way to a 11 win season.  And if you don't have one of those guys, you're bored as you sorta but don't pay attention as you fall apart in a 6 win season.

The NFL used to be the best sport because with a strong running game and a decent defense you used to stand a chance of winning.  Today, that doesn't matter.  You either have the QB or you don't.  And the rules changes and replay have made the game maddening and frustrating for fans, no TD is safe, no emotion is spent properly.  It's a mess.  The ratings are finally reflecting it.

SAR I

Completely agree. Qb driven league, no qb, no chance. 

That being said, jets were screwed today and it was blatant.

Lots of pats fans around me today. Made for a real fun day at the stadium. 

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25 minutes ago, SAR I said:

You're talking about fans in the stadium when you should be talking about TV ratings.

The Boston market is #7 with 2.4 million homes watching at any given moment.   The New York market is #1 with 7.4 million homes.  If Boston increases 10% because of the Patriots winning while New York decreases 20% because of the Jets and Giants losing, the NFL loses a massive amount of ad revenue.

If the game were fixed for the "greedy NFL", the Jets would have gotten all the calls, not the Patriots.

SAR I

The Patriots are by far and away the most popular team internationally so this theory does not stand up.

Agreed with your post on the NFL and QB's though. The intrigue with the league used to be about the multiple way to get a winning team. Now it's just about getting a QB.

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It was a sh*t call and Kraft obviously has clout with the league office. I cant stand the sight of him. The Pats get calls because they have the most popular and most marketable player in the league. That being said, lets get a grip here. We suck and it's depressing there's not a lot of young talent to get behind. 

Also, the Jets owner walked out to work for the guy who's going out of his way to embarrass Goodell.

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34 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Worst call in the history of omg it's like I'm never watching again illuminati Jay z 

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Good shot, now move ahead a couple frames and show us if he regained possession with his left arm...

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55 minutes ago, SAR I said:

I agree completely that we were robbed.  But some of you are missing the big picture which is:

1.  We are not a playoff team.

2.  Therefore wins and losses don't matter.

3.  Effort matters.

4.  Coaching matters.

5.  Young players developing matters.

6.  Team chemistry matters.

The Jets just hung with the Super Bowl Champions and overwhelming AFC favorites.  They played like a team, with passion, with max effort.  Today was an A+ even though we lost.  Today is a day that should make Jets fans happy, not sad.

SAR I

 

i'm good with it for the reasons stated.  i had very low expectations for this game going in and they did better than they should have.  there are certainly some players who need work and others who are working out quite nicely.  

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41 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Worst call in the history of omg it's like I'm never watching again illuminati Jay z 

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I love a good teasing, but defending this is flat out wrong.

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1 minute ago, Mogglez said:

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I love a good teasing, but defending this is flat out wrong.

The ball is in the picture I posted and it's out when he hits the ground. Not saying it's right or wrong, but you can see how the refs elected to make the call. 

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1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

The ball is in the picture I posted and it's out when he hits the ground. Not saying it's right or wrong, but you can see how the refs elected to make the call. 

The video I posted after shows where he regains possession though.  As long as that ball or ASJ aren't out of bounds, it's a TD.  Plain and simple.  If you watch that, then no, I can't understand why or how the refs made their call.  It's just bad man.

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3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

The ball is in the picture I posted and it's out when he hits the ground. Not saying it's right or wrong, but you can see how the refs elected to make the call. 

Lol, I appreciate good trolling 

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25 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

The Patriots are by far and away the most popular team internationally so this theory does not stand up.

Agreed with your post on the NFL and QB's though. The intrigue with the league used to be about the multiple way to get a winning team. Now it's just about getting a QB.

So because the Patriots draw 10,000 fans in the UK to watch NFL broadcasts at 11pm the Jets were served up a loss today?

Trust me, if the NFL wanted to rig the game to favor TV ratings and ad revenue and gameday ticket sales the Jets would be 6-0.  New York is the biggest TV market in the world.  Ad exposure per 30 second spot creates 3x the revenue it does in Boston.  The Jets have the biggest stadium in the AFC and lead the conference in attendance since MetLife was opened.

There is no truth to this theory that the NFL needs the Patriots in order to be successful.  This isn't the Yankees for MLB or the Rangers for NHL.  They are a small market team.

SAR I

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4 hours ago, bostonmajet said:

Maybe instead of blaming refs (who were extremely bad) we should blame the Jets coaches for sitting on a lead in the 2nd half. It isn't important who wins, its important the you establish the run...

This... I shut the game off at 14-7 and never went back because we all knew at 14-0 Bowles would go conservative, play scared and not to lose, and completely stop being aggressive. Exactly what happened being outscored 24-3 thereafter. Too predictable that would happen. I left and went to the gym to distance myself from the game. I am not going to let them reel me back in emotionally only to have my intestines ripped out yet again. I am glad I didn't watch the rest of the game. The NFL has become the OFL, Officials Football League. They are the stars. They control the games and the final scores. I yearn for the time 10-15 years ago when the refs called the game as they saw it and were not glamorized being on TV every minute making stupid assed calls and delaying games for minutes on end with idiotic replays.

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5 hours ago, NoBowles said:

So in a matter of a few plays, the refs completely take over the game, lol. What a joke.

PI and helmet to helmet, defenseless receiver called OFF.

PI against Adams that was more of a PI against Gronk.

3 blatant tackle holds on the drive by the Pats, not called.

Kneeling players, fixed games, no thanks NFL, Im done

They made the helmet to helmet call on the field on Robbie Anderson.  The call was Austin Sefarian-Jenkins scored a touchdown on the field.  Why in the hell were both reversed ? What in the actual F*** ? 

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The Pats were called for illegal pick plays about 3 times today makes it look like that's part of their offensive play book. Imagine how many times those cheats get away with it.

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15 hours ago, SAR I said:

So because the Patriots draw 10,000 fans in the UK to watch NFL broadcasts at 11pm the Jets were served up a loss today?

Trust me, if the NFL wanted to rig the game to favor TV ratings and ad revenue and gameday ticket sales the Jets would be 6-0.  New York is the biggest TV market in the world.  Ad exposure per 30 second spot creates 3x the revenue it does in Boston.  The Jets have the biggest stadium in the AFC and lead the conference in attendance since MetLife was opened.

There is no truth to this theory that the NFL needs the Patriots in order to be successful.  This isn't the Yankees for MLB or the Rangers for NHL.  They are a small market team.

SAR I

Never said I believed the theory. 

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6 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

The Pats were called for illegal pick plays about 3 times today makes it look like that's part of their offensive play book. Imagine how many times those cheats get away with it.

Every team in the NFL runs a variation of the pick play.  I never liked when they made this play illegal.  It was a bread and butter call for everybody.  Guys had to have their heads on a swivel.

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6 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

The Pats were called for illegal pick plays about 3 times today makes it look like that's part of their offensive play book. Imagine how many times those cheats get away with it.

Cooks also never caught the TD pass against the Texans. It sucks, but Kraft has paid his dues.

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2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Refs didn't make the call.  The booth did. 

Which coincidentally thought the Cooks catch was a TD against the Texans. The centralized booth is basically admitting that this is just a TV show with a script.

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17 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

Pats look mortal, we are never winning anything this year. Develop young guys. We need to spend some of that huge Cap on ASJ,and Ealy, Roberts.

Bright side, Roberts is signed through the 2018 season.  Not bad for a Pats 2015 7th rounder

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