#27TheDominator Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 44 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Love draft discussions after the fact using hindsight. Do remember how many were more than happy with Stewart when drafted and even later. Today it was a moronic move. You can't have it both ways. You can't tell us that we have to wait to complain about Hackenberg being undraftable on draft night and then complain that we are using hindsight. Some say you have to wait 3 years to evaluate a draft - well of the 2015 draft we are left with Williams. Nobody else even contributted except a few games out of Mauldin. 2016? Jordan Jenkins was the only "get." Jury is still out on Lee, Burris and Shell. He is basically looking for homeruns in the last few rounds, so it is hard to complain, but do you think he could hit one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: The draft is far from a given and some on Monday morning want to complain about 2nd day picks after the fact. Everyone has opinions and thats what keeps these boards going is the way I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 13 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Talking about the entire draft. And it's a dumb jet argument. Bad picks that doing work out means he sucks. Good picks are nothing but lucky Well Mac had a lot of bad luck 2014-2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 13 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: You can't have it both ways. You can't tell us that we have to wait to complain about Hackenberg being undraftable on draft night and then complain that we are using hindsight. Some say you have to wait 3 years to evaluate a draft - well of the 2015 draft we are left with Williams. Nobody else even contributted except a few games out of Mauldin. 2016? Jordan Jenkins was the only "get." Jury is still out on Lee, Burris and Shell. He is basically looking for homeruns in the last few rounds, so it is hard to complain, but do you think he could hit one? Phil Jackson was universally trashed as GM of the knicks yet in just a couple years he drafted a superstar (Porzingis) and the next great NBA perimeter defender (Ntilikina) yet in Macagnan’s first three years his best draft pick by far was an ok run stuffing 3-4 DE (Leo) which we already had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 13 hours ago, Philc1 said: Because he got lucky. If Dorsey or Gettleman wake up we end with the next Kellen Clemens Shorty Mayfield instead of Sam Darnold Do you even read what you say ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Phil Jackson was universally trashed as GM of the knicks yet in just a couple years he drafted a superstar (Porzingis) and the next great NBA perimeter defender (Ntilikina) yet in Macagnan’s first three years his best draft pick by far was an ok run stuffing 3-4 DE (Leo) which we already had Superstar! Call me when he is as good as Derrick Coleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Superstar! Call me when he is as good as Derrick Coleman. Call me when he’s as good as Gary Coleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 On 9/4/2018 at 4:30 PM, Jetsbb said: You can sometimes excuse these blatant mistakes when the position doesn't fit a need. The truth is they were looking at picking Alvin Kamara. They let the Saints trade up a couple of spots ahead of them to pick Kamara and then traded down and selected Stewart with Kareem Hunt still on the board. The guy has been as bad as Idzik. Even the one first round pick that wasn't a slam dunk he picks Daren Lee a below avg starter. With Woody in the UK and his brother a sycophant who wants to be buddies with the players kissing their ass any chance he gets we will be stuck with Mac and Bowles for a while. I'm betting you had no idea who Kareem Hunt was before last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 14 hours ago, Doggin94it said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Phil Jackson was universally trashed as GM of the knicks yet in just a couple years he drafted a superstar (Porzingis) and the next great NBA perimeter defender (Ntilikina) yet in Macagnan’s first three years his best draft pick by far was an ok run stuffing 3-4 DE (Leo) which we already had This is mindless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, NYJ37/12 said: I'm betting you had no idea who Kareem Hunt was before last year. Neither did the jets GM. That’s a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 17 hours ago, Philc1 said: Because he got lucky. If Dorsey or Gettleman wake up we end with the next Kellen Clemens Shorty Mayfield instead of Sam Darnold Suspect Barkley is not on this week's injury report because Gettleman would sooner jump off the top of Metlife than admit he effed up and badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 47 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Neither did the jets GM. That’s a problem lol, please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 On 9/4/2018 at 4:43 PM, Doggin94it said: I just want to know what happened at 4:30 on September 4, 2018 that made you realize this happened in last year's draft and decide it was worth a new thread. well.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 On 9/4/2018 at 4:49 PM, Philc1 said: We still don’t know what Ardarius Stewart is! true.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Lol...remember those WR discussions that year? I remember continuously debunking the Tavon Austin and Cordarelle Patterson hype. Had Hopkins and Allen as 1, 2 that year, surprised teams were that scared off of Allen’s slow 40 due to his recovery from his PCL injury. Be a long time before I let that one go. Here am I with Hopkins and Allen atop my wr rankings, getting lit into by the likes many for “not having Tavon Austin in my top 5”... “he’s not just a gadget player Paradis...” ....right. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby2 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 More frustrating that they didn't take Godwin tbh. We needed a WR, Godwin was a star at Penn State, and looks well on his way to a very nice nfl career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I just want to know where this magical unicorn of a GM that never gets picks wrong is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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