nj meadowlands Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I'm trading a 4th to Cincy for AJ Green. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 18 hours ago, Green DNA said: Reese makes Mccags almost look competent. Almost. Reese is like Macagnan except with two Super Bowl trophies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, nj meadowlands said: I'm trading a 4th to Cincy for AJ Green. Not a bad thought. Green might retire in the next couple years so the bengals might be desperate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 44 minutes ago, drsamuel84 said: This may be out of left field but I wonder if there's any chance of nabbing Ozzie Newsome. I know he's "retiring" but a part of me thinks he's being kind of forced by the Ravens who know if they don't promote DeCosta soon they'll probably lose him. He's the type of guy that hasn't been mentioned but can really but that under the radar "football czar" we need. Let him hire the GM and coach, get things moving in the right direction for a few years and then if he wants ride off into the sunset. I'm sure we'd have to pay him a ton of money but a drastic move is needed to turn this thing around Newsome would be great but the Johnsons are sticking us with McCags for at least 3 more losing boring seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 14 hours ago, Bugg said: He also built 2 Super Bowl champs. Would wager a small sum a guy like this would very much like to make his former employer a bit annoyed with his success were he to get hired here. Yes, he had some misses; but his job is to oversee things, troubleshoot, direct. He would not be running the draft, merely seeing the machine gets the Big Picture. And further he would at least be the adult in the room to say, perhaps on Draft Day '17 YOU MOTHERLESS SHEETHEELS ARE NOT TAKING 2 SAFETIES WHEN YOUR OFFENSE IS HOT GARBAGE. Maccagnan's resume by contrast has....anything??? Reese would be an enormous upgrade over Macc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Or I'm trading a 6th or a 7th to Philly for Alshon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 9:16 PM, Mark78 said: DO NOT TRADE ADAMS! Keep: 1) Darnold 2) Adams 3) Enunwa Everyone else is expendable. agreed !.. hang a " Best Offer " sign out ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, nj meadowlands said: Or I'm trading a 6th or a 7th to Philly for Alshon. We desperately need a #1 WR but they just aren’t available and we will be drafting too high to take one of the WRs on the draft who are being projected mid first rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Off the top of my head.... 1. Fire Macc and Bowles 2. Hire an experience GM with a track record of talent acquisition. No first timers. 3. Allow that GM to hire my Coach, with a focus on Offensive Minded and Young with at least successful NFL-level O-Co exerience 4. Cut bait on a goodly number of current underperforming or troublesome players the GM and Coach think may not return to expected/required performance levels. Eat the cap hit. We have the space. 5. Focus the 2019 Draft on offense. Draft another QB in the 3-5 round area to push Darnold and to eliminate any "veteran QB syndrome" the new Head Coach may surrender to in a crisis. Darnold + Giantboy + Draft pick at QB, no veterans signed, McCown can asst. coach if he wants to stay in NY. 6. Focus the rebuild in FA (and the draft) on O-line, RB and WR, in that order. That's my start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Warfish said: Darnold + Giantboy + Draft pick at QB You're certainly allowed to fiat this but if you do it's #1 on the list because willingness to accept an arranged marriage to Darnold then has to be one of the dealbreakers for your hires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Reese is like Macagnan except with two Super Bowl trophies The first of which was 100% constructed by Ernie Accorsi. Hard to argue with a SB win, however when the rest of your career has been an abject failure (how many playoff appearances outside of the SB win?), I'm not sure why anyone would feel this is the guy that we want running the show. Hard pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: You're certainly allowed to fiat this but if you do it's #1 on the list because willingness to accept an arranged marriage to Darnold then has to be one of the dealbreakers for your hires. Not sure why the fanbase has a hard time grasping this. How is arranging Idzik with Rex any different than Darnold next coach/GM? Thought we wanted to get away from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 46 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: You're certainly allowed to fiat this but if you do it's #1 on the list because willingness to accept an arranged marriage to Darnold then has to be one of the dealbreakers for your hires. I think that's the reality of things no matter who the Owner is or who any potential GM/Coach will be, honestly. Cutting bait with Darnold after one year just isn't feasible, warranted or realistic. But.....big but here......I think stacking the deck at QB with prospects is both feasible AND warranted for a team with a QB history such as ours. And the investment of a mid-round pick might get some "boo, what about Darnold!" feedback from fans, or the "every pick should serve Darnold" reactions we see here, but so what. If I were the owner, I'd accept that fan feedback to have three young QB prospects on the roster and no oldsters. Alternate to using a draft pick, I'd accept signing a young QB prospect if one were available, and saving the pick for more offense skill positions or O-line. I'll be honest, the past few losses would have been MUCH more tolerable to stomach if we had played Giantboy at QB and not McCown. I can live with a loss, if it looks like we're losing AND developing talent. Playing McCown is the ultimate "Warfish hates this" move, becuase it's literally only about Bowles trying to save Bowles, and "best chance to win", which at select times isn't whats best for the team as a whole. And I reject the "players will revolt" argument completely tbqh. So yeah, I beat this drum every year it seems, but my "system" of QB management is always be young, always have depth, always have prospects stacked behind prospects. Never have a "veteran journeyman". There could be exceptions, but not many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Love seeing the fire everybody hire new/draft new prospects responses with no idea how you're going to take a team with a reputation for poor management and convince people to come here. If we could have hired a GM or coach with a better track record we would have in 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said: Love seeing the fire everybody hire new/draft new prospects responses with no idea how you're going to take a team with a reputation for poor management and convince people to come here. If we could have hired a GM or coach with a better track record we would have in 2015. Have you heard of this concept folks have come up with.....it's called "lots and lots of money". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 20 hours ago, Tinstar said: I move my team away from this miserable fan base Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Fans like you are the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Give Mac & Bowles One More Chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1) Hire someone competent, and who believes in data, to be head of football ops and or GM - Not sure you need both, but this person is in charge. 2) Aforementioned person is in charge of hiring the next HC. 3) Everyone is for sale. Perhaps everyone but Darnold, but if someone makes me a ludicrous offer, he's for sale too. Accumulating draft picks is the #1 objective of this franchise. 4) 100M is for purchasing an offensive line, though we still address Oline in the draft. 5) Draft offense heavily - I can build a defense later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, TeddEY said: 1) Hire someone competent, and who believes in data, to be head of football ops and or GM - Not sure you need both, but this person is in charge. 2) Aforementioned person is in charge of hiring the next HC. 3) Everyone is for sale. Perhaps everyone but Darnold, but if someone makes me a ludicrous offer, he's for sale too. Accumulating draft picks is the #1 objective of this franchise. 4) 100M is for purchasing an offensive line, though we still address Oline in the draft. 5) Draft offense heavily - I can build a defense later. What does it mean to believe in data? Are there actually humans who don’t believe in data? And isn’t the goal to build a long term sustainable organization , with some SB wins, not accumulating draft picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 48 minutes ago, NoBowles said: What does it mean to believe in data? Are there actually humans who don’t believe in data? Many, it seems. 48 minutes ago, NoBowles said: And isn’t the goal to build a long term sustainable organization , with some SB wins, not accumulating draft picks? Accumulating draft picks is my 1st step in building a long term sustainable organization. There is no one actively on the Jets, save Sam Darnold maybe, but I'll leave that to the GM I hire and the coach he hires to decide, that I view as critical to the long term sustainable success of the organization. Jamal Adams stays for anything over, say, a top 40 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 12/4/2018 at 3:16 AM, Mark78 said: Keep: 1) Darnold 2) Adams 3) Enunwa Everyone else is expendable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Lawyering must be slow these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Just now, bicketybam said: Lawyering must be slow these days Winning never, ever gets old. That's the first question on the bar exam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Winning never, ever gets old. That's the first question on the bar exam.My brother in-law is an attorney and he's an idiot. I don't care what questions are on the bar exam 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, bicketybam said: My brother in-law is an attorney and he's an idiot. I don't care what questions are on the bar exam Obviously, you don't care what's in a joke, either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Nobody had trade for Aaron Rodgers as the solution? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Obviously, you don't care what's in a joke, either.Jokes are usually funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, bicketybam said: 34 minutes ago, jgb said: Obviously, you don't care what's in a joke, either. Jokes are usually funny. So are clowns but you aren't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 So are clowns but you aren'tClowns are scary. Where the **** have you been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, bicketybam said: 1 hour ago, jgb said: So are clowns but you aren't Clowns are scary. Where the **** have you been? What are you, 5? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 What are you, 5?You got me. You have razor sharp wit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, bicketybam said: 23 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: What are you, 5? You got me. You have razor sharp wit. And you're still scared of clown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecuadorian Jet Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 On 12/3/2018 at 9:16 PM, Mark78 said: DO NOT TRADE ADAMS! Keep: 1) Darnold 2) Adams 3) Enunwa Everyone else is expendable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Sell to Cohen and then tell him to do the exact opposite of what he did with the Mets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Necro'd from 2018 .. well played.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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