Klecko73isGod Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: I'd want to punch Mac in the face if he turned that down. I don't want Case Keenum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, playtowinthegame said: It would only be for one year, and he'd be good to have around Darnold and a lot cheaper than McCown was last year. Siemian is pretty much the same sh.t at 10% the cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, TeddEY said: This. I guess you like Siemian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 23 minutes ago, Lith said: This entire discussion is based on Breer's speculation. He is not referring to any source within the Jets organization that has indicated a willingness to bend. Just a writer's opinion. I think I will wait to see what plays out tonight before getting myself all bent out of shape over what we might or might not accept in a trade down that may or may not happen. Definitely just a media hack rumor... But the fact that Mac is incompetent and wants to trade down brings this opinion to life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: It would only be for one year, and he'd be good to have around Darnold and a lot cheaper than McCown was last year. To do what? Teach Darnold to be mediocre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Mac has been negotiating through the media the entire offseason to trade back. It almost feels like he's begging at this point. Seems weak as F and smells ripe for losing value in a trade. Hopefully I'm just being a negative nancy and I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Siemian is pretty much the same sh.t at 10% the cost If you say so. I'd rather have a veteran like Keenum around Darnold than a guy who will likely be out of the league in a year. But hey, he'll only cost $1,000,0000 versus Keenum costing $3,500,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Mac has been negotiating through the media the entire offseason to trade back. It almost feels like he's begging at this point. Seems weak as F and smells ripe for losing value in a trade. Hopefully I'm just being a negative nancy and I'm wrong. He has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: I guess you like Siemian. Cause it sounds like semen!!!!!! Good One!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, playtowinthegame said: If you say so. I'd rather have a veteran like Keenum around Darnold than a guy who will likely be out of the league in a year. But hey, he'll only cost $1,000,0000 versus Keenum costing $6,500,000. Keenum is not an upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, Klecko73isGod said: He has? Where do you think the media keeps getting reports that the Jets want to trade down? Incarcerated Bob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Klecko73isGod said: To do what? Teach Darnold to be mediocre? I guess we'll have Trevor teach Darnold how to suck Siemian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, playtowinthegame said: If you say so. I'd rather have a veteran like Keenum around Darnold than a guy who will likely be out of the league in a year. But hey, he'll only cost $1,000,0000 versus Keenum costing $6,500,000. Dude, Case Keenum sucks. But even if he didn't, the Redskins signed him to be their starter this year, regardless of what they do in the draft. They aren't gonna use him as a throw in on a trade to grab the rookie they want him to mentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: Where do you think the media keeps getting reports that the Jets want to trade down? Incarcerated Bob? Having spent time in press boxes I can tell you that a lot of reporters are each other's sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lith said: Agreed. I have no idea if a trade will happen or not. I hope it does, but I have no idea. We don't know how much Wasington is willing to give up. A lot depends on the validity of the reprots that Oakland is interested in Haskins. Does Snyder pull the trigger on a deal to 3 to jump the Raiders, or does he think the Riader interst in Haskins is BS, in which case he waits it out. And risks losing his guy. If I am Snyder, and I really believe Haskins is the guy to lead my team, I am not risking losing him. Which could also mean a trade up to 2. A lot of variables none of us know. First 30 - 45 minutes of the draft tonight will be fascinating. I can't remember a draft that had this much uncertainty on draft day. Should be fun. all this late talk about Haskins and the QBs reminds me of the year the Giants were going to take Ryan Nassib and he went like 4 rounds later Or like the Geno Smith year everyone had him as like a mid first round pick these Qbs aren't good enough, they weren't good enough when they scouted the class a year in advance and Kyler Murray isn't Cam Newton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, Klecko73isGod said: Dude, Case Keenum sucks. But even if he didn't, the Redskins signed him to be their starter this year, regardless of what they do in the draft. They aren't gonna use him as a throw in on a trade to grab the rookie they want him to mentor. So on one hand he sucks, but on the other hand he's good enough to mentor. Which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: I guess we'll have Trevor teach Darnold how to suck Siemian. Yeah.... no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, bitonti said: all this late talk about Haskins and the QBs reminds me of the year the Giants were going to take Ryan Nassib and he went like 4 rounds later Or like the Geno Smith year everyone had him as like a mid first round pick these Qbs aren't good enough, they weren't good enough when they scouted the class a year in advance and Kyler Murray isn't Cam Newton running qbs get dinged up sooner or later - cam's shoulder is still healing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, bitonti said: Mac got boned last year in the trade up by the Harvard chart, the Jimmy Johnson chart, the Hank Hill Strickland Propane chart, he got bent over to go up 3 spots he didn't get value he overpaid. It worked out but it wasn't some sort of steal Nonsense. He got Darnold and Darnold is worth it. Period, end of sentence. No, maybe it was't a 'steal' but to say that was a bad trade is asinine. To say he is bad at making trades and use the Darnold trade as an example is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, Klecko73isGod said: Yeah.... no. Ok Mr. T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: I have thought this was a likely scenario for a long time. Nobody really wants to trade up too badly and the Jets may put a discount on the number 3 pick in order to pull someone up the board and get out of that spot. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was something like the Redskins 15th pick, 46th pick (2nd round) and a 2nd rounder next year. I can't see the Jets taking that little, if only because of the inevitable "We gave up more to move from 6 to 3 than we got from the Redskins for them to move from 15 to 3" They're not going to take less than 3 second round picks to swap with the Redskins, if only because of that reality, so I'm comfortable predicting a deal with Washington doesn't get done unless they include their 2020 first. Also, word out of Washington is that Dan Snyder has "taken over" the first round of the draft with an eye to moving up for a QB; the last time he was in charge and made that move he dealt 3 firsts and a second to move up for RGIII (and that was a smaller move up). Doesn't mean he'll deal 3 #1s again, but I wouldn't bet on him having the backbone to insist on a rock bottom price and risk losing his guy to the Raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, playtowinthegame said: Ok Mr. T. EY already did the Siemen/Semen joke. Yours was overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 hour ago, SR24 said: Any trade with the Redskins that doesn't bring back Brandon Scherff is a failure. I want Scherff #15 #46 and a 2020 1st. I'll add in our later 3rd if need be Scherff is in his 5th year option. I wasn't aware that Washington didn't want to re-sign him. If that's the case, then why did they pay him on the option? I think they love the guy. With a new deal, they can reduce any immediate cap hit via bonus. Do you have any links that speaks to the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Doggin94it said: I can't see the Jets taking that little, if only because of the inevitable "We gave up more to move from 6 to 3 than we got from the Redskins for them to move from 15 to 3" They're not going to take less than 3 second round picks to swap with the Redskins, if only because of that reality, so I'm comfortable predicting a deal with Washington doesn't get done unless they include their 2020 first. Also, word out of Washington is that Dan Snyder has "taken over" the first round of the draft with an eye to moving up for a QB; the last time he was in charge and made that move he dealt 3 firsts and a second to move up for RGIII (and that was a smaller move up). Doesn't mean he'll deal 3 #1s again, but I wouldn't bet on him having the backbone to insist on a rock bottom price and risk losing his guy to the Raiders DOGGIN!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, Klecko73isGod said: EY already did the Siemen/Semen joke. Yours was overkill. I pitty the fool who wants Siemian as Darnold's "mentor". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, PepPep said: Nonsense. He got Darnold and Darnold is worth it. Period, end of sentence. No, maybe it was't a 'steal' but to say that was a bad trade is asinine. To say he is bad at making trades and use the Darnold trade as an example is ridiculous. Why can't we use Darnold trade as an example. It's the exact same 3 pick. Even the monkeys employed by the Post can figure out what a 3 pick is worth based on the 3 pick they bought last year. Unless we are agreeing this year QB sucks at the top end and this entire discussion is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Klecko73isGod said: EY already did the Siemen/Semen joke. Yours was overkill. Case Keenum rhymes with JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, playtowinthegame said: I pitty the fool who wants Siemian as Darnold's "mentor". Meh... better. But Siemian isn't being brought in as a mentor. He is is backup. Sam doesn't need a mentor anymore. He has his big boy pants on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Case Keenum rhymes with JAG That was hilarious Phil. You should get on stage and charge people for laughs like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberjet Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Don't be surprised if the what was assumed to be the case all along with the Cardinals taking a QB with the first pick , does not materialize. I believe this to be what's going to transpire. With this result, Murry and Haskins will be sitting at #3 - and with that in mind, there will be a flurry of phone calls from many teams, on of which, the Bengals, I see a very realistic scenario with a serious proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 hour ago, SR24 said: Any trade with the Redskins that doesn't bring back Brandon Scherff is a failure. I want Scherff #15 #46 and a 2020 1st. I'll add in our later 3rd if need be I’d take that in a trade down Snyder might be crazy enuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I see this negotiation with Macc as Inigo Montoya and Snyder as the Six Fingered Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, playtowinthegame said: That was hilarious Phil. You should get on stage and charge people for laughs like that. Case Keenum also rhymes with Phag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, Klecko73isGod said: I see this negotiation with Macc as Inigo Montoya and Snyder as the Six Fingered Man. Snyder likes flashy moves so it’s not impossible Sub in Scherff for that scrub Keenum I’m in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dcat said: Scherff is in his 5th year option. I wasn't aware that Washington didn't want to re-sign him. If that's the case, then why did they pay him on the option? I think they love the guy. With a new deal, they can reduce any immediate cap hit via bonus. Do you have any links that speaks to the issue? They do like him as he is a solid RG. If we’re going to “bend” on compensation then they can keep a few picks and send us Scherff. No reason not to ask for the guy in a trade to come from 15 all the way to 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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