ZachEY Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Josh Allen has been a much better qb then sam darnold so far. Way better. Darnold now has the opportunity to change that and it starts Sunday. Allen is trending up. He now has the 2nd lowest passer rating of any starting QB and the 2nd most interceptions. At this rate he’ll have the 3rd most INTs and 3rd lowest passer rating in no time. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Josh Allen has been a much better qb then sam darnold so far. Way better. Darnold now has the opportunity to change that and it starts Sunday. That's not even remotely true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets0712 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Whoa, I don't want you to leave this site forever. Quite the opposite. I want you right here on December 29 right around 4:16 pm so I can mock you for your silly dreams of a playoff berth when Sam, Le'Veon, Jamal, and CJ wipe the floor with the Bills. If you don't have the money for a ticket, let me know, it's on me. SAR II’m with you SAR. I Believe.. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jets0712 said: I’m with you SAR. I Believe.. Excellent. And I don't view it as something unrealistic. We are a better team than the other wildcard competitors, we just had some unprecedented bad luck with health the first month of the season. There's plenty of time left. If this team is playoff caliber, we're going to find that out pretty quickly. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Mastenpark said: It doesn't tell the whole story but it tells a big part as the seasons go by. At the end of day wins are what these QB's are judged by It doesn’t tell a big part of any story that has to do with judging who's QB is better than the other. There isn’t some kind of real correlation between team wins and individual QB ability. The Bills can still win games and have a lesser QB. QB’s are judged on QBR, completion %, TD/INT Ratio, ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Mastenpark said: Vince Young: 31-19-0 62% Chad Pennington: 44-37-0 55% Chad was a better thrower of ball with a noodle arm Well see in 3-5 where Josh and Sam are at. You can't honestly believe this. Vince Young was an absolute bust and Pennington is one of the best pure passers the league has ever seen who had his career derailed by injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 5 hours ago, TeddEY said: Allen is trending up. He now has the 2nd lowest passer rating of any starting QB and the 2nd most interceptions. At this rate he’ll have the 3rd most INTs and 3rd lowest passer rating in no time. Here's the current bottom six in DYAR and DVOA (in blue, respectively). Sure to rustle some jimmies around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 5 hours ago, TeddEY said: Allen is trending up. He now has the 2nd lowest passer rating of any starting QB and the 2nd most interceptions. At this rate he’ll have the 3rd most INTs and 3rd lowest passer rating in no time. #improving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Here's the current bottom six in DYAR and DVOA (in blue, respectively). Sure to rustle some jimmies around here. #2018 historic QB class Where are Watson and Mahomes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, JiF said: #2018 historic QB class Where are Watson and Mahomes? 5th and 1st, respectively: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb/2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 44 minutes ago, dbatesman said: 5th and 1st, respectively: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb/2019 Sigh. I remember the debates about "wait" till 2018....it's such a better class. 1 particular poster was vulgar about it and I can never remember who. I wish I was good at the search function. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, JiF said: Sigh. I remember the debates about "wait" till 2018....it's such a better class. 1 particular poster was vulgar about it and I can never remember who. I'd wish I was good at the search function. But we got the Prez!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucebag Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 5 hours ago, TeddEY said: Allen is trending up. He now has the 2nd lowest passer rating of any starting QB and the 2nd most interceptions. At this rate he’ll have the 3rd most INTs and 3rd lowest passer rating in no time. A better way to put it: Allen has been better than most expected, having said that, if the Bills had just an average D they wud be 1-4 right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, dbatesman said: But we got the Prez!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, deucebag said: A better way to put it: Allen has been better than most expected, having said that, if the Bills had just an average D they wud be 1-4 right now. He drove down the field and threw the winning td against the jets. He drove down the field and threw the winning td against the titans. The d helps but josh allen is winning games for that team. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, dbatesman said: Here's the current bottom six in DYAR and DVOA (in blue, respectively). Sure to rustle some jimmies around here. Well consider my jimmies rustled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, deucebag said: A better way to put it: Allen has been better than most expected, having said that, if the Bills had just an average D they wud be 1-4 right now. Im actually good with my way of putting it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Im actually good with my way of putting it. He's right in that Allen being the 4th-worst QB in the league is actually better than I expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, deucebag said: A better way to put it: Allen has been better than most expected, having said that, if the Bills had just an average D they wud be 1-4 right now. Not sure if better but I like it. They also have wins vs. elite teams like the Jets, Bengals, Eli led Giants and the Titans. The unfortunate part for Bills fans is, Josh Allen sucks but they're going to win 10+ games. They have the Dolphags twice, Redskins, Browns, Broncos, Steelers, Cowboys, Jets left on their schedule. They're already banging in the parking lots and jumping off parking garages, what do you think they'll do win they win a lay up 10 games? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastenpark Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Mogglez said: You can't honestly believe this. Vince Young was an absolute bust and Pennington is one of the best pure passers the league has ever seen who had his career derailed by injury. Stop it. You talking like Chad was on his way to the Hall of Fame before his injury 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 42 minutes ago, Mastenpark said: Stop it. You talking like Chad was on his way to the Hall of Fame before his injury Not once did I say that or imply it, but compared to Vince Young he was lmao. He was a deadly accurate and cerebral QB that, when healthy, won games (your ultimate measuring stick). Those shoulder surgeries did him in. Vince Young just flat out sucked. Like, there is zero argument for that type of unbelievable comparison. It's just flat out wrong. You have to be a young kid. There's no one old enough to have watched both play that would put Vince Young over Chad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacarter220 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 On 10/7/2019 at 5:16 PM, SAR I said: The Jets beat the Bills. The standings don't reflect it of course, but the Jets are the better team. SAR I What’s the excuse going to be this weekend then when the Jets get rocked by the cowboys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacarter220 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 15 hours ago, Mogglez said: Not once did I say that or imply it, but compared to Vince Young he was lmao. He was a deadly accurate and cerebral QB that, when healthy, won games (your ultimate measuring stick). Those shoulder surgeries did him in. Vince Young just flat out sucked. Like, there is zero argument for that type of unbelievable comparison. It's just flat out wrong. You have to be a young kid. There's no one old enough to have watched both play that would put Vince Young over Chad. Pennington had a noodle for an arm. If the ball was in the air more than fifteen yards, look out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 On 10/9/2019 at 10:43 AM, dbatesman said: Here's the current bottom six in DYAR and DVOA (in blue, respectively). Sure to rustle some jimmies around here. Whoa nelly!!! Those are some names to be discussed. lol Luke Falk sitting behind 3 of last year's Top 4 drafted QBs. The other two names.....2019 rookies. Interesting indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, jacarter220 said: What’s the excuse going to be this weekend then when the Jets get rocked by the cowboys? We would have beaten the Cowboys if Sam didn't miss a month of reps, Herndon didn't hurt himself vacationing, and Mosley wasn't Glass Joe. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastenpark Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 On 10/9/2019 at 10:31 AM, Patriot Killa said: It doesn’t tell a big part of any story that has to do with judging who's QB is better than the other. There isn’t some kind of real correlation between team wins and individual QB ability. The Bills can still win games and have a lesser QB. QB’s are judged on QBR, completion %, TD/INT Ratio, ect. So if that is the case why aren’t you guys winning games with Falk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, jacarter220 said: Pennington had a noodle for an arm. If the ball was in the air more than fifteen yards, look out. Yep, obviously, due to the shoulder injuries. He was, at his healthiest, on par with guys like Ryan and Brees in terms of arm strength. Two rotator cuff injuries later and he threw hospital balls to his WRs. That being said, 2006 and 2008 Pennington, which was after the injuries, was a better QB than Vince Young ever was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, SAR I said: We would have beaten the Cowboys if Sam didn't miss a month of reps, Herndon didn't hurt himself vacationing, and Mosley wasn't Glass Joe. SAR I Hahahahahaha. So predictable. No balls to stick w/ your prediction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Mastenpark said: So if that is the case why aren’t you guys winning games with Falk. Because the Jets team sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, SAR I said: We would have beaten the Cowboys if Sam didn't miss a month of reps, Herndon didn't hurt himself vacationing, and Mosley wasn't Glass Joe. SAR I Well, at least you're all ready for Monday. Going to be interesting reading your posts if we get to 0-7, and if sixth rounder nobody Gardner Minshew outduels a now-fully-healthy-normal-sized-spleen Sam Darnold. That'll be a hot take that day, I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Hahahahahaha. So predictable. No balls to stick w/ your prediction. You're judging me? You guaranteed a victory in Philadelphia. You need to answer for Sonny, Carlo. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Warfish said: Well, at least you're all ready for Monday. Going to be interesting reading your posts if we get to 0-7, and if sixth rounder nobody Gardner Minshew outduels a now-fully-healthy-normal-sized-spleen Sam Darnold. That'll be a hot take that day, I am sure. 1-5 is the goal. Once that happens the rest falls into place rather nicely. 1-5 then 7-6 then 9-7. The Nationals pulled it off. So too can the Jets. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Ok, we going to the *bleeping* playoffs! We'll bury all the *bleeping* cockroaches that get in our way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 minute ago, playtowinthegame said: Ok we play!!!! We going to the ******* playoffs! We'll bury all the ******* cockroaches that get in our way. Every year there is a team that opens 0-3 or 1-4 or 1-5 and gets the #6 seed. Why not us? We have the most upside. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, SAR I said: Every year there is a team that opens 0-3 or 1-4 or 1-5 and gets the #6 seed. Why not us? We have the most upside. SAR I If Sam leads us to the playoffs after starting 0-4, he'll be an MVP candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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