Barry McCockinner Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I am not posting this because I agree with the tweet. The current GM has nothing to do with what previous GM's have done. I just found it to be an interesting stat. JD has been impressive so far, I am cautiously optimistic he can reverse that trend, starting with #77. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sec101row23 Posted July 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2020 Is this guy serious? Star players?? Lol.. In what universe was Darron Lee, Calvin Pryor and Leo Williams ever considered a “star” ? 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 It all points to poor management..... we are poorly run and poorly owed and our record and draft history is perfect evidence that the Jets are a pile of HOT shlt until proven otherwise. I like JD but we haven’t seen the field yet.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, sec101row23 said: Is this guy serious? Star players?? Lol.. Adams was a Star.... I’m glad he’s gone but he was a star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, southparkcpa said: Adams was a Star.... I’m glad he’s gone but he was a star. He was, but the other 4? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, southparkcpa said: Adams was a Star.... I’m glad he’s gone but he was a star. Plus he took down the Pats mascot.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Treehorn Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Darron Lee was as much a legit NFL player as Hackenberg. The problem was that the Jets couldn’t draft star players, but that problem is solved. JD will eventually shut this clowns up and we will be here to watch it happen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Is this guy serious? Star players?? Lol.. In what universe was Darron Lee, Calvin Pryor and Leo Williams ever considered a “star” ? Paul Stanley's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Star players, lol. Aside from Adams, none of the other 4 are close. Its more of an indictment of the previous GMs who have not selected players worthy of extending. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RutgersJetFan Posted July 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2020 The Jets draft nothing but busts and jerks, yet not extending them is the problem? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GreekJet Posted July 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2020 The Jets handling of star players is not the problem. It’s the acquisition of of star players. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: It all points to poor management..... we are poorly run and poorly owed and our record and draft history is perfect evidence that the Jets are a pile of HOT shlt until proven otherwise. I like JD but we haven’t seen the field yet.... Yep, it is till it isn’t., 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 There is a bit of a history of the Jets not handling star players on the defensive side of the ball well. John Abraham, Darrelle Revis, and Jamal Adams are the prime examples. That said, if we're looking at our last nine first round picks -- Becton, Quinnen, Darnold, Adams (traded), Lee (traded), Leo (traded), Pryor (traded), Richardson (traded), and Milliner -- the issue is not that we can't "handle" star players. It's that we suck at identifying and drafting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I take out my trash every Thursday night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 The thing that annoys me as much as missing out on the 1st rounders is watching every team in the league find some gem in the 3rd or 4th round while we draft utter dogs before them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Ask the Giants how they feel about Leonard Williams right now. A 3 and a 5 for 0.5 Sacks, 1 FF and 2 TFLs in 8 games. He will be the 2nd highest paid player on the team in 2020 via the franchise tag, and then the team has to decide between a huge extension for a run-stuffing DT OR letting him walk as a 1.5 season rental on a non-contending team. Darron Lee was a healthy scratch for the Chiefs' 2019 Super Bowl run. He was not active for any of their postseason games. He made 22 Solo Tackles over 16 games during the regular season, with 0 INTs, 0 Sacks, 0 FFs, 0 FRs, 0 TFLs, 0 QB Hits, and 0 Pass Deflections. You would think he would accidentally stumbled into one of those 7 stat categories on a talented, turnover-causing defense. Lee is now an unsigned free agent. Calvin Pryor has been out of the league since 2017. He didn't play a down for the Browns, who he was traded to, as he was cut 3 months later. The Jaguars picked him up, used him for 2 games, and then cut him in December, the 3rd team to get rid of him in less than 7 months. Sheldon Richardson has been the best player of the 4, but that's not saying much. He's been on 3 different teams since being traded, totaling 8.5 sacks and 4 FFs over 3 seasons. Good, not great. Finances dictate he'll stay in Cleveland one more year, and then likely be gone, when cutting him will save the Browns $12M on the cap. He wasn't traded, but Muhammad Wilkerson is worth mentioning too. After the Jets cut him following the 2017 season, he was signed to a 1-year, $5M "show me" deal with the Packers. What he "showed" in 2018 was just 2 Solo Tackles and no other numbers in 3 games of work before suffering a serious ankle injury which may well have been a career-ender. He hasn't played in the NFL since. Kyle Wilson, Quinton Coples and Dee Milliner were 3 other first rounders that ended up getting cut. Quinnen Williams isn't off to a great start, and shows few signs of being a pass rusher (which you absolutely need to be as a DT that's taken that early). Yeah, safe to say that trading/cutting 1st round picks isn't the problem. It's that they weren't worthy of being 1st round picks in the first place. Even Adams, who one can argue has returned 1st round value in his career to date, was absolutely the WRONG pick in 2017. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 so, because the previous GMs drafted poorly and didn't lock up players correctly, the Jets might as well not draft in the 1st round? I hate these articles; so, we had 2 bad drafters before and the current GM won't be held hostage by a guy wanted to be paid early and the most of any safety, so automatically we will not draft well and hold on to any of the Seattle picks? What kind of logic is that? Also, if we are constantly trading away a #1 pick for 2 1sts and a player, maybe it will be okay. More importantly, the culture of the Jets is starting to change. We appear to be drafting high character football players. Drafting well, trading down when we need to and trading away players who are trouble and/or won't be extended for good values. Yeah, what happened in the last 2 administrations is so important... great trash article... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 As others pointed out here, the problem was in absolutely no way the "handling" of any of these players... it was the drafting of them in the first place. Even if anyone wanted to say it's still a wait and see on the Adams trade, the fact remains that the Jets were proven right for sending every one of those others packing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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