vic Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Sam was pressing last week. Trying to hard to be the savior. Surround him with some weapons and he will be fine. He has too much talent to be given up on.Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Romo and Orlovsky love Darnold. Always have Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Y3k said: Really? Where did he rank last year among QBs dealing with a bottom 5 roster in NFL history? He's not any good. Consistently makes dumb decisions and has mediocre at best arm strength. The team sucks too but he's a part of why the team sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: He's not any good. Consistently makes dumb decisions and has mediocre at best arm strength. The team sucks too but he's a part of why the team sucks. The Jets were 7-6 in games he started last year. And that includes the opener against Buffalo when he probably felt like crap due to mono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y3k Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: He's not any good. Consistently makes dumb decisions and has mediocre at best arm strength. The team sucks too but he's a part of why the team sucks. 2 games with more than 1 int since week 9 of 2018. Multiple long stretches of elite play both years. Winning record with the worst team in the NFL. Arm strength comment is ridiculous- don’t take it from me but rather his #1 hater in the media: https://mobile.twitter.com/Realrclark25/status/1195563889070657536 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, TuscanyTile2 said: The Jets were 7-6 in games he started last year. And that includes the opener against Buffalo when he probably felt like crap due to mono. Context is key. How many of those games were against the little sisters of the poor and after the team was already buried at 1-7? When the games counted, Darnold was seeing ghosts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: Context is key. How many of those games were against the little sisters of the poor and after the team was already buried at 1-7? When the games counted, Darnold was seeing ghosts. I agree. I just think we shouldn't throw the baby (Sam) out with the bathwater (Gase). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I agree. I just think we shouldn't throw the baby (Sam) out with the bathwater (Gase). I've seen enough bad QBing in my life - he's just another in the long line of bad Jet QBs. With proper coaching and receiving talent can he be 'OK'? I guess so - but the idea he's gonna be this special QB is out the door for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: I've seen enough bad QBing in my life - he's just another in the long line of bad Jet QBs. With proper coaching and receiving talent can he be 'OK'? I guess so - but the idea he's gonna be this special QB is out the door for me. Fair enough. I can understand why people would be frustrated with what they've seen so far. I remain a lot more optimistic on him than most on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, bitonti said: You're pulling numbers out of thin air to support your conclusion that Darnold is a good player. I'll repeat myself too even if he did set his feet and throw a good pass, he didn't have to throw it 1) into coverage 2) into the middle of the field 3) across his body he broke like 3 QB commandments in the same throw which is understandable for rookies. he could have just slid for a 1 yard gain he could have thrown it off his back foot out of bounds he didn't have to turn a 50/50 situation into a dire one biggest problem with Darnold by the way is he looks like he doesn't want to be there. I'm not even sure he likes football. When's the last time he looked like he was having fun? the rose bowl? This statement in bold face is just stupid. Anybody can access and follow his off-season work, who the hell puts in that kind of work and obtains the comments from his coach in Jordan Palmer to do something he doesn't want to do? So you don't think highly of Darnold, that's fine, but making sh*t up to make your argument doesn't serve you well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 4 hours ago, KRL said: Agreed, good interview. His point that the Jets/Gase doesn't attack a specific player on defense is interesting. I'll be looking for that on Sunday Funny, that reminds me when the Jets were kicking the pants off the Dolphins 2 years ago then Cutler got hurt, and I think it was Moore came in, and just picked on our slot CB forget his name to Stills the entire 4th quarter for the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 6 hours ago, KRL said: Agreed, good interview. His point that the Jets/Gase doesn't attack a specific player on defense is interesting. I'll be looking for that on Sunday Yes, and it works the other way. The Jets had 3 wide receivers record snaps on Sunday. 3! One of them was Jamison Crowder, our best pass-catcher / "weapon." Another was Brashad Perriman.... new to the team, hadn't practiced in two weeks because of his knee, and was locked down by Pro Bowl CB Tre'Davious White. The final one was Chris Hogan who joined the team two months ago. The Bills targeted specific Jets players to limit and mitigate.... Perriman with White, then Herndon with some bracketed coverage. The only guys they really had to worry about were Crowder who sprung loose here and there, and Bell who didn't play in the 2nd Half. The Jets made it easy on Buffalo. There were no bullets in the gun....and the ones we did have were blanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Which bad play from Sunday do you think was caused by his feet not being set? Let's start with throwing on the run into the middle of the defense for an interception... shall weSent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y3k Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Let's start with throwing on the run into the middle of the defense for an interception... shall we Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app we've covered this already. read the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I listened to Orlovsky's interview and I'm surprised that no one has brought up one interesting nugget. Orlovsky brings up extending Darnold after this season to a reasonable extension since Darnold will probably not have a huge statistical season. Is this part of Joe Douglas's thinking? Obviously Darnold has not been put in the best position to succeed this year (this is distinct from the issue of whether Darnold is any good). Has Douglas decided that in the long term the Jets would be better off extending Darnold off a mediocre season when he won't be paid among the top 10 QBs in the league, thus leaving more cap room to spend on other players? Part of the Patriot's secret sauce for many years was having Brady play on below market contracts, thereby freeing up cap space for other players (yes, I know Darnold is not on the same planet as Brady as a player). Pretty Machiavellian by Douglas if this was his plan all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, maury77 said: I listened to Orlovsky's interview and I'm surprised that no one has brought up one interesting nugget. Orlovsky brings up extending Darnold after this season to a reasonable extension since Darnold will probably not have a huge statistical season. Is this part of Joe Douglas's thinking? Obviously Darnold has not been put in the best position to succeed this year (this is distinct from the issue of whether Darnold is any good). Has Douglas decided that in the long term the Jets would be better off extending Darnold off a mediocre season when he won't be paid among the top 10 QBs in the league, thus leaving more cap room to spend on other players? Part of the Patriot's secret sauce for many years was having Brady play on below market contracts, thereby freeing up cap space for other players (yes, I know Darnold is not on the same planet as Brady as a player). Pretty Machiavellian by Douglas if this was his plan all along. This is just silly talk. The gap between QB1 money and QB2 money is massive. If you're paying a non-journeyman guy to be your QB1, it's going to be for a lot money. Darnold would still command $30M per year even if he doesn't prove he's "the guy", simply because we'd be paying him to be the starter. His price wouldn't drop to, say, $20M a year just because he didn't perform well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 16 hours ago, The Crusher said: Darnold would be a good if not very good QB if he played better. Crusher’s account hacked by Booger McFarland? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 20 hours ago, DetroitRed said: Romo and Orlovsky love Darnold. Always have Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app They aren’t wrong. The jets have Andrew Luck’d Darnold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 13 hours ago, maury77 said: I listened to Orlovsky's interview and I'm surprised that no one has brought up one interesting nugget. Orlovsky brings up extending Darnold after this season to a reasonable extension since Darnold will probably not have a huge statistical season. Is this part of Joe Douglas's thinking? Obviously Darnold has not been put in the best position to succeed this year (this is distinct from the issue of whether Darnold is any good). Has Douglas decided that in the long term the Jets would be better off extending Darnold off a mediocre season when he won't be paid among the top 10 QBs in the league, thus leaving more cap room to spend on other players? Part of the Patriot's secret sauce for many years was having Brady play on below market contracts, thereby freeing up cap space for other players (yes, I know Darnold is not on the same planet as Brady as a player). Pretty Machiavellian by Douglas if this was his plan all along. I’d extend Darnold now. Jets could probably get him to sign a reasonable 2-3 year deal. then draft Chase and sign Allen Robinson or Corey Davis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Extending Darnold now sounds like a Big Mac move. The Bucs and Titans don't regret not extending Mariota or Jameis in Year 3 for submarket value, who both looked way better than Darnold at this point in their careers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 On 9/17/2020 at 8:55 AM, The Crusher said: Darnold would be a good if not very good QB if he played better. 7 hours ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said: Crusher’s account hacked by Booger McFarland? I mean, it's hard to argue the point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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