Popular Post Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 This is an interesting added chapter in the football analytics digest. RAS (relative athletic score) pits them against 30 years of prospect measurables.. (Probably breaking my own cardinal rule posting this here vs Draft Forum) Thought you would all want to take a look given that it may be a reasonable predictor of value with Jets/JD You'll notice a few things ^^ here that are of interest, but i wanna hang a lantern on Nate/Nathan McCrary ...there's so much Jeff Wilson to his game and he fits our scheme perfectly.. SUUUUPER deep sleeper though. 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 Couple notables here. Marshall at the top should surprise no one who's been listening to me on his potential. Also - Gonna toot the Zach Davidson horn to death between now and April 29th 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 Spencer brown ? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 Circle the name "Elerson Smith".... DE from UNI 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dbatesman Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 Thanks for posting these. Athletic numbers are always valuable in gauging prospects, but especially in the Jets’ case—IIRC, a bunch of our picks last year were high-RAS guys. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 Lot of talent there people. at CB... a lot. Surprised Samuel Jr doesn't find his name on that list... wonder if that's indicative in some way on why NFL teams aren't as hot for him (as a day 1 name for example) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, dbatesman said: Thanks for posting these—athletic numbers are always valuable in gauging prospects, but IIRC, a bunch of our picks last year were high-RAS guys. I think you're right. I don't recall exactly where i read/heard this - but i believe there's perceived value in RAS from JD and his team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Trey sermon will be the best RB in this draft 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I know we cant have him anymore but do you know what Pitts graded out against all historical TEs? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Pretty incredible numbers for a guy who is 6’7”. I wonder what traits the new staff is looking for in their TEs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokyoJetsFan Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 WR Jalen Camp is a guy I was going to put in the dark horse thread. Looks the part (6'2 221), but scheme and QB issues kept his numbers down...plus he's from Georgia Tech and has triple option experience so people may have PTSD remembering Stephen Hill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, sec101row23 said: Pretty incredible numbers for a guy who is 6’7”. I wonder what traits the new staff is looking for in their TEs. I'm afraid to be hopeful, but the Jets sent people down to see him at the proday and they were one of 4-5 teams who were "clearly" interested in Zach. Cross you fingers. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 lol Spencer Brown... the best out of any OT since 1987 He's #1 out of 1109... haha insane! The Panthers have 2 very intriguing prospects this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mo Lew said: I know we cant have him anymore but do you know what Pitts graded out against all historical TEs? #34/927 Not too shabby at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, Paradis said: (Probably breaking my own cardinal rule posting this here vs Draft Forum) Once the season is over, this should be the draft forum. Especially now, this close to the draft. It’s what we’re talking about. You nerds can go back in your closet after it’s done. 2 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 Zach Wilson putting up the RAS of a dude with a wooden leg! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, Paradis said: I'm afraid to be hopeful, but the Jets sent people down to see him at the proday and they were one of 4-5 teams who were "clearly" interested in Zach. Cross you fingers. It’s encouraging that they are at least interested. This kid could be a beast in the red zone, something this team has lacked for a long time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: It’s encouraging that they are at least interested. This kid could be a beast in the red zone, something this team has lacked for a long time. Yep. He’d also become an instant fan favorite I think too. With all the YAC guys we have working the perimeter and such, Davidson’s long ball game is particularly adept. He’ll be a big problem for defenses as NY Jet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: It’s encouraging that they are at least interested. This kid could be a beast in the red zone, something this team has lacked for a long time. Btw unrelated - I saw some film from Clemson’s inter team scrimmage... who the hell is Ajou Ajou?!? Lol. Oh my goodness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 43 minutes ago, Paradis said: This is an interesting added chapter in the football analytics digest. RAS (relative athletic score) pits them against 30 years of prospect measurables.. (Probably breaking my own cardinal rule posting this here vs Draft Forum) Thought you would all want to take a look given that it may be a reasonable predictor of value with Jets/JD You'll notice a few things ^^ here that are of interest, but i wanna hang a lantern on Nate/Nathan McCrary ...there's so much Jeff Wilson to his game and he fits our scheme perfectly.. SUUUUPER deep sleeper though. wow he fast! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Paradis said: Btw unrelated - I saw some film from Clemson’s inter team scrimmage... who the hell is Ajou Ajou?!? Lol. Oh my goodness I actually mentioned him to you a couple years ago when he committed to Clemson. He’s from Canada, played some high school ball in Florida, extremely raw but has developed some since getting to Clemson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, sec101row23 said: I actually mentioned him to you a couple years ago when he committed to Clemson. He’s from Canada, played some high school ball in Florida, extremely raw but has developed some since getting to Clemson. Ooohhhhh yea!! I forgot all about that. From my old stomping grounds in Edmonton? Damn. Forgot all about that dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 And who dis— Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Paradis said: Ooohhhhh yea!! I forgot all about that. From my old stomping grounds in Edmonton? Damn. Forgot all about that dude. He’s up to 230 pounds now, the Clemson WR room is crowded right now, hope he continues to develop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, sec101row23 said: He’s up to 230 pounds now, the Clemson WR room is crowded right now, hope he continues to develop. When is it not crowded, yeesh. Like a munitions factory during wartime. 230? My god. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Some great football names in there. That's the only thing I go by. Chuba Hubbard for the win. Shaka Toney! I feel like I'm watching 'Laugh In'. Jared Goldwire gets rained on a little bit because his first name is pedestrian. Same thing with Jake Funk, but I'll make exceptions, I can be flexible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Smith Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Does RAS take into account hand size and arm length? I’m told these correlate well to overall success 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Paradis said: When is it not crowded, yeesh. Like a munitions factory during wartime. 230? My god. Last year because of injury it was thin, this year check out EJ Williams and Beaux Collins. Justyn Ross is back as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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section314 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Paradis said: I think you're right. I don't recall exactly where i read/heard this - but i believe there's perceived value in RAS from JD and his team. Look at Zunigna's numbers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I love the RAS #s and teams have their own formulas they use similar to his, but don’t think it’s pure gospel. For example, I think the Jets are very high on Ronnie Perkins. Could be a player they’re targeting at #34, but his score is low. I don’t think the low athletic profile discards how much they like they like a player on tape. Perfect world great on tape/great athletic profile, but a lower athletic profile when a guy is explosive on tape is OK too 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Didn't Cam Clarke have a stinky ras score? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, section314 said: Look at Zunigna's numbers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, football guy said: I love the RAS #s and teams have their own formulas they use similar to his, but don’t think it’s pure gospel. For example, I think the Jets are very high on Ronnie Perkins. Could be a player they’re targeting at #34, but his score is low. I don’t think the low athletic profile discards how much they like they like a player on tape. Perfect world great on tape/great athletic profile, but a lower athletic profile when a guy is explosive on tape is OK too 100% agree. Evaluations should be a matrix of information and assessments. None of these are going to bat 1.000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cbucco19 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 23 minutes ago, football guy said: I love the RAS #s and teams have their own formulas they use similar to his, but don’t think it’s pure gospel. For example, I think the Jets are very high on Ronnie Perkins. Could be a player they’re targeting at #34, but his score is low. I don’t think the low athletic profile discards how much they like they like a player on tape. Perfect world great on tape/great athletic profile, but a lower athletic profile when a guy is explosive on tape is OK too Would love to trade done a few spots , get an extra 2nd or 3rd and pick Toney and Creed Humphrey. Any interest in Brady Christensen or Dax miline to reunite with Zach ? @football guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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