Popular Post T0mShane Posted December 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2022 Most recent Cimini pod has Cimini putting the brakes on Glazer’s reporting that Zach is on his way out. Very interesting and heretofore unrevealed nugget that Douglas was the one who resisted benching Zach Wilson after Pats Disaster II, and it’ll be Douglas making the call as to whether Zach stays or goes this offseason. Cimini surmises that Douglas and his scouts don’t want that Josh Rosen-like black mark on their resumés, but Saleh and LaFleur want him out. Interesting side by side with Rosenblatt’s note that, when they benched Zach Wilson in the third quarter of the Jags game, Zach took the field with the offensive huddle, the boos rained down, and then they pulled Zach and made him jog off the field to cheers. If anyone was at the game, was that the sequence of events? If so, harsh, but you would presume intentional. Shades of Rex Ryan trying to make Antonio Allen play corner to teach Idzik a lesson for not signing DRC. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flight-deck-with-rich-cimini/id1466085257?i=1000591411127 12 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 I don’t think there is any doubt there’s friction. The play to potentially land an Adam Peters (Saleh’s guy) could be on the table. (Purely speculative) Similar to the Gase Maccagnan situation. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CanadienJetsFan Posted December 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2022 And it continues..Conspiracy theorists must conspire, lol! Ps, Cimini is a dick. He’s been waiting to stick it to this franchise for years… Again 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted December 27, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I don’t think there is any doubt there’s friction. The play to potentially land an Adam Peters (Saleh’s guy) could be on the table. (Purely speculative) Similar to the Gase Maccagnan situation. You have to think there’s a 0.0 chance Douglas gets fired this year. 17 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted December 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2022 Cimini is the least plugged in source, everyone in the building hates him. He’s just going with the hot take here. 6 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 27, 2022 Author Share Posted December 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said: He’s been waiting to stick it to this franchise for years… Again Which is not all that hard, though 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Which is not all that hard, though Touché 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted December 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2022 Jets coaches and front office totally and utterly blew it and are now trying to fix some things if they can or if not are not going to just toss the guy in the dust bin. Wilson was totally not ready to be an nfl qb off the hop and a smart team would have brought in a legit vet started and had wilson sit for a year minimum. and if they fans don't like it? F'em Also Douglas is not going to toss away a high asset quickly if some team actually made a swap offer of a trey lance or love he might listen but if Douglas has taught us one thing is that he is patient and will try and get max value from assets. He got a haul for Adams and did well in the Darnold trade, he told both Mims and Moore to sit down and shut up when they wanted trades. Robert Saleh and MLF do not have enough cred banked to be shopping for their own groceries. 13 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You have to think there’s a 0.0 chance Douglas gets fired this year. I think Woody is paying very close attention to how this season unfolds. Saleh didn’t build a carriage house to play Zach Wilson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 So what’s the premise here. Saleh wanted to start Streveler? Flacco ? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BurntDice Posted December 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2022 Just as an outsider looking in I had the vibe that they were really hand in hand with each other. Both sides have their input and they discuss everything. It’s possible that there is friction, but they seem very close and are willing to disagree but ultimately come to a meeting point. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 1 minute ago, BurntDice said: Just as an outsider looking in I had the vibe that they were really hand in hand with each other. Both sides have their input and they discuss everything. It’s possible that there is friction, but they seem very close and are willing to disagree but ultimately come to a meeting point. Whose decision was it to rely on Becton? If there’s any truth to this then I think it’s obvious they may not be on the same page. We’re still holding onto the crappy punter too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I don’t think there is any doubt there’s friction. The play to potentially land an Adam Peters (Saleh’s guy) could be on the table. (Purely speculative) Similar to the Gase Maccagnan situation. Why would Woody favor Saleh in a power struggle? Douglas is much better at his job than Saleh is at his. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted December 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2022 Just now, K_O_Brien said: Why would Woody favor Saleh in a power struggle? Douglas is much better at his job than Saleh is at his. Douglas has 13 wins in 3 seasons. 7 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Saleh reports to JD So the theory here is Saleh is going to Woody to can his boss and bring someone else in to replace? Let me know how that works out 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BurntDice Posted December 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2022 Just now, Matt39 said: Whose decision was it to rely on Becton? If there’s any truth to this then I think it’s obvious they may not be on the same page. We’re still holding onto the crappy punter too. We have no idea on most of the behind the scenes stuff. JD was trying to bring in a vet tackle while Becton was healthy. A few guys came in. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 1 minute ago, BurntDice said: We have no idea on most of the behind the scenes stuff. JD was trying to bring in a vet tackle while Becton was healthy. A few guys came in. Also fair to speculate Douglas wanted Flacco to start to begin the season. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 29 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Most recent Cimini pod has Cimini putting the brakes on Glazer’s reporting that Zach is on his way out. Very interesting and heretofore unrevealed nugget that Douglas was the one who resisted benching Zach Wilson after Pats Disaster II, and it’ll be Douglas making the call as to whether Zach stays or goes this offseason. Cimini surmises that Douglas and his scouts don’t want that Josh Rosen-like black mark on their resumés, but Saleh and LaFleur want him out. Interesting side by side with Rosenblatt’s note that, when they benched Zach Wilson in the third quarter of the Jags game, Zach took the field with the offensive huddle, the boos rained down, and then they pulled Zach and made him jog off the field to cheers. If anyone was at the game, was that the sequence of events? If so, harsh, but you would presume intentional. Shades of Rex Ryan trying to make Antonio Allen play corner to teach Idzik a lesson for not signing DRC. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flight-deck-with-rich-cimini/id1466085257?i=1000591411127 FO and CS getting off the same page over a struggling player leading to both their firings…. Where have I seen this story before ? 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Also fair to speculate Douglas wanted Flacco to start to begin the season. Eh this one I’m not really buying. There were multiple reports saying MW struggled in training camp. Saleh said this also 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Interesting side by side with Rosenblatt’s note that, when they benched Zach Wilson in the third quarter of the Jags game, Zach took the field with the offensive huddle, the boos rained down, and then they pulled Zach and made him jog off the field to cheers. If anyone was at the game, was that the sequence of events? Yes, it was 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sonny Werblin Posted December 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2022 I'm pretty sure grown men can disagree on one thing and still work together. 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Saleh and Douglas have been in lockstep since day 1. This is a well thought out plan agreed on by both of them. And it would have worked flawlessly but White got hurt and they had to go back to Zach. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Just now, Matt39 said: Douglas has 13 wins in 3 seasons. I appreciate that. But what has Saleh shown as a head coach, to suggest he should win any potential power struggle? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: I appreciate that. But what has Saleh shown as a head coach, to suggest he should win any potential power struggle? Generally the team plays hard. The defense competes. Aside from the timeout debacle I think in games he’s decent. Overall I just don’t see the progress from a roster construction standpoint to trust Douglas to keep going. Wilson and Becton were absolutely brutal draft picks. A further dive into the day 2 and 3 picks isn’t pretty either. Zuniga over Highsmith? How? The punter is atrocious. Mims is a total bust. Too many bad picks that could have easily been avoided. 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Most recent Cimini pod has Cimini putting the brakes on Glazer’s reporting that Zach is on his way out. Very interesting and heretofore unrevealed nugget that Douglas was the one who resisted benching Zach Wilson after Pats Disaster II, and it’ll be Douglas making the call as to whether Zach stays or goes this offseason. Cimini surmises that Douglas and his scouts don’t want that Josh Rosen-like black mark on their resumés, but Saleh and LaFleur want him out. Interesting side by side with Rosenblatt’s note that, when they benched Zach Wilson in the third quarter of the Jags game, Zach took the field with the offensive huddle, the boos rained down, and then they pulled Zach and made him jog off the field to cheers. If anyone was at the game, was that the sequence of events? If so, harsh, but you would presume intentional. Shades of Rex Ryan trying to make Antonio Allen play corner to teach Idzik a lesson for not signing DRC. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flight-deck-with-rich-cimini/id1466085257?i=1000591411127 Like I've been saying, the front office has been behind Zach Wilson playing the last 2 weeks when everyone knew he was the worst option. The front office may have sabotaged the season in order to not look like idiots. There are 32 GM positions. If a guy thinks his job is on the line he's going to do whatever it takes to save it regardless of the team winning. I don't know why that's hard to believe. 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rldev Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You have to think there’s a 0.0 chance Douglas gets fired this year. Because there is 0 chance. No conspiracy needed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Robert Saleh and MLF do not have enough cred banked to be shopping for their own groceries. Bazinga. Right there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nj meadowlands Posted December 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2022 Just now, Matt39 said: Generally the team plays hard. The defense competes. Aside from the timeout debacle I think in games he’s decent. Overall I just don’t see the progress from a roster r construction standpoint to trust Douglas to keep going. Wilson and Becton were absolutely brutal draft picks. You don't see roster construction progress, but cite Wilson and Becton without citing the following draft class? 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Yeah when Zach was pulled he initially went out onto the field, I believe it was during a tv timeout. Then Streveler came running out and he exited . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 https://www.instagram.com/p/CmrpSHEpjWh/?igshid=NTdlMDg3MTY= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 If this is really the case then Douglas needs to be gone yesterday. Wow. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Generally the team plays hard. The defense competes. Aside from the timeout debacle I think in games he’s decent. Overall I just don’t see the progress from a roster construction standpoint to trust Douglas to keep going. Wilson and Becton were absolutely brutal draft picks. A further dive into the day 2 and 3 picks isn’t pretty either. Zuniga over Highsmith? How? The punter is atrocious. Mims is a total bust. Too many bad picks that could have easily been avoided. Look at the rest of the league. It’s impossible to hit on even 75% of picks. If you are around 55% then you are doing fantastic. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 This isn’t because of Zach’s uncle being buddy buddy with woody, is it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rldev Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 1 minute ago, choon328 said: Like I've been saying, the front office has been behind Zach Wilson playing the last 2 weeks when everyone knew he was the worst option. The front office may have sabotaged the season in order to not look like idiots. There are 32 GM positions. If a guy thinks his job is on the line he's going to do whatever it takes to save it regardless of the team winning. I don't know why that's hard to believe. How exactly was the season sabotaged? Mike White was put in after New England, he got run over by a truck. Mike White is cleared to play, he is playing. What did you want them to do? Play Joe Flacco? I'm going to assume that's your answer. How did that go last time out? At least we had a chance to win the Detroit game. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Just now, Matt39 said: Generally the team plays hard. The defense competes. Aside from the timeout debacle I think in games he’s decent. Overall I just don’t see the progress from a roster r construction standpoint to trust Douglas to keep going. Wilson and Becton were absolutely brutal draft picks. Is the defense good because of coaching, or is it a reflection of the talent on the roster? Increasingly, I think it's the latter. The Jets should have a top 5 defense. The offense is misfiring. Wilson and Becton should not have been picked when they were, but has Saleh managed to maximize their potential. Has Saleh maximised Mims and Moore? All these first and second round picks and Saleh doesn't know what to do with them. That's Saleh's problem, he doesn't seem to be able to work with 'difficult' players that need to be coached up. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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