Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, ptisme said: No you can't. How many good players could good we have on our team because of what we'd pay rodgers? How many good players could we have on our team because we're paying Jordan Love top five franchise tag money? If Love plays good this year he will likely get a middle of the road extension half way through the year like they did with Rodgers in 08'. The cap will go up but it will go up for everyone and we wouldn't be competitive allocating twice as much money as any other team to QB. Rodgers will not be in GB... I'm done.... It's a question of leverage and opportunity. For the time being green bay doesn't have to do anything. Someone's QB could get hurt, a team may miss out on a QB in the draft,Woody could do something nuts, maybe a team calls that's more desperate. Who knows...All of those potential outcomes have better upside than a 2nd rd pick. If I was guttenkurst I would fall back for now. You're also putting value on a QB rookie contract. To me it doesn't matter if your QB is paid. Ultimately if he's a franchise QB it doesn't matter. It's just my philosophy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 If I'm green bay I view Rodgers trade bait as an investment and I don't believe it's reached it's full potential right now for a return. Leverage hasn't met the best opportunity yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, ptisme said: The only actualy "fail" would be Rodgers in a Packers uniform sitting on the bench week one. I'm sure that won't happen. They will give in eventually. Worst case, he is playing and Love is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooooon Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, ptisme said: I'm done.... Ok, well thanks for stopping by. Good luck to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Someone who creates an account and posts 219 times in a day and a half, who is apparently a Bills fan, is obviously a troll. This guy/girl has been on here day and night, non stop. Why the sudden urge to spam the Jets message boards, not just with a few messages or opinions, but 219 posts !! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Tooooon said: Ok, well thanks for stopping by. Good luck to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, JETS SB said: Someone who creates an account and posts 219 times in a day and a half, who is apparently a Bills fan, is obviously a troll. This guy/girl has been on here day and night, non stop. Why the sudden urge to spam the Jets message boards, not just with a few messages or opinions, but 219 posts !! It's bc the Bills are in big trouble this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post choon328 Posted April 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2023 With all of the people I've put on ignore I'm seeing about 6 posts per page. It's glorious. 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, JETS SB said: Someone who creates an account and posts 219 times in a day and a half, who is apparently a Bills fan, is obviously a troll. This guy/girl has been on here day and night, non stop. Why the sudden urge to spam the Jets message boards, not just with a few messages or opinions, but 219 posts !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, JETS SB said: Someone who creates an account and posts 219 times in a day and a half, who is apparently a Bills fan, is obviously a troll. This guy/girl has been on here day and night, non stop. Why the sudden urge to spam the Jets message boards, not just with a few messages or opinions, but 219 posts ChatGPT but come up with dumb takes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, choon328 said: It's bc the Bills are in big trouble this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, choon328 said: With all of the people I've put on ignore I'm seeing about 6 posts per page. It's glorious. Just did that with him. Didn’t realize you could do that. Thanks. I am sure people have ignored me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Let’s be real all these fans from other teams only care bc they’re scared. No on pays more attention to you than your haters. I could never imagine going and finding any other teams forum and just start debates on them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: Which gb has known for 20 years which makes the deal even worse. Or they know Rodgers is done. Maybe last year wasn't because of the thumb? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 hours ago, bla bla bla said: No there wouldn't Year Age Base Salary Prorated Bonus Roster Bonus Workout Bonus Other Bonus Guaranteed Salary Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension Total $30,415,000 $67,647,138 $10,000,000 $250,000 $105,300,000 $60,615,000 $213,612,138 2022 39 $1,150,000 $27,333,568 $0 $50,000 $0 $1,150,000 $28,533,568 13.2% 2023 40 $1,165,000 $15,833,570 $0 $50,000 $14,575,000 $59,465,000 $31,623,570 14.0% $99,778,570 ($68,155,000) 2024 ? 41 $2,250,000 $8,160,000 $0 $50,000 $30,241,666 $0 $40,701,666 15.9% $24,480,000 $16,221,666 2025 ? 42 $15,850,000 $8,160,000 $5,000,000 $50,000 $30,241,666 $0 $59,301,666 21.0% $16,320,000 $42,981,666 2026 ? 43 $10,000,000 $8,160,000 $5,000,000 $50,000 $30,241,668 $0 $53,451,668 17.4% $8,160,000 $45,291,668 cap hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Let’s be real all these fans from other teams only care bc they’re scared. No on pays more attention to you than your haters. I could never imagine going and finding any other teams forum and just start debates on them. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy when you do it Bobby, but you literally do exactly that on a Packers forum though…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, doitny said: Year Age Base Salary Prorated Bonus Roster Bonus Workout Bonus Other Bonus Guaranteed Salary Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension Total $30,415,000 $67,647,138 $10,000,000 $250,000 $105,300,000 $60,615,000 $213,612,138 2022 39 $1,150,000 $27,333,568 $0 $50,000 $0 $1,150,000 $28,533,568 13.2% 2023 40 $1,165,000 $15,833,570 $0 $50,000 $14,575,000 $59,465,000 $31,623,570 14.0% $99,778,570 ($68,155,000) 2024 ? 41 $2,250,000 $8,160,000 $0 $50,000 $30,241,666 $0 $40,701,666 15.9% $24,480,000 $16,221,666 2025 ? 42 $15,850,000 $8,160,000 $5,000,000 $50,000 $30,241,666 $0 $59,301,666 21.0% $16,320,000 $42,981,666 2026 ? 43 $10,000,000 $8,160,000 $5,000,000 $50,000 $30,241,668 $0 $53,451,668 17.4% $8,160,000 $45,291,668 cap hell The cap is a myth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, doitny said: Year Age Base Salary Prorated Bonus Roster Bonus Workout Bonus Other Bonus Guaranteed Salary Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension Total $30,415,000 $67,647,138 $10,000,000 $250,000 $105,300,000 $60,615,000 $213,612,138 2022 39 $1,150,000 $27,333,568 $0 $50,000 $0 $1,150,000 $28,533,568 13.2% 2023 40 $1,165,000 $15,833,570 $0 $50,000 $14,575,000 $59,465,000 $31,623,570 14.0% $99,778,570 ($68,155,000) 2024 ? 41 $2,250,000 $8,160,000 $0 $50,000 $30,241,666 $0 $40,701,666 15.9% $24,480,000 $16,221,666 2025 ? 42 $15,850,000 $8,160,000 $5,000,000 $50,000 $30,241,666 $0 $59,301,666 21.0% $16,320,000 $42,981,666 2026 ? 43 $10,000,000 $8,160,000 $5,000,000 $50,000 $30,241,668 $0 $53,451,668 17.4% $8,160,000 $45,291,668 cap hell You're looking at Green Bays cap hits, not ours. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Let’s be real all these fans from other teams only care bc they’re scared. No on pays more attention to you than your haters. I could never imagine going and finding any other teams forum and just start debates on them. Could you imagine being a Buffalo Bills fan being scared that the Jets are going to get Aaron Rodgers so your plan is to infiltrate the Jets message board hopefully Woody sees what you're writing and then you can sabotage the trade... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: The cap is a myth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said: Great meme. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: You're looking at Green Bays cap hits, not ours. your right. i found something that has it as 51 mil for 2025 and 45 mil for 2026. if thats right it still isnt good. very confusing contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 From Cimini's blog. A 'different' deal: It raised eyebrows around the league when the Jets received permission from the Green Bay Packers to speak with Rodgers last month before trade compensation was agreed upon. Typically, that's not how it works. Example: The Jets and Kansas City Chiefs reached a trade agreement last year before wide receiver Tyreek Hill was permitted to talk to the Jets. Why not with the Packers? "I think each deal is a little bit different in its own right," Jets GM Joe Douglas said at the recent league meetings. "In certain trade talks there have been times when we had compensation agreed to. This one just played out different. I feel like every deal has its own life. This one was just different." So JD knowingly painted himself into a corner. He gets permission and agrees to talk with AR BEFORE comp was discussed!! and then after meeting with AR he publicly expresses his love and then he lets all other vet QB options fall away and then is surprised GB is demanding (and will get) too much for the trade. Thank you, Joe Douglas, Thank you 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, choon328 said: With all of the people I've put on ignore I'm seeing about 6 posts per page. It's glorious. Same! I haven't used ignore for years and in just one page of Kelly to Jerkoff posts, they had to go on ignore. Now the entire thread is "You've chosen to ignore posts by Kelly to Jerkoff", which is almost as bad, tbh. ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, MichaelScott said: Same! I haven't used ignore for years and in just one page of Kelly to Jerkoff posts, they had to go on ignore. Now the entire thread is "You've chosen to ignore posts by Kelly to Jerkoff", which is almost as bad, tbh. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, Big_Slick said: From Cimini's blog. A 'different' deal: It raised eyebrows around the league when the Jets received permission from the Green Bay Packers to speak with Rodgers last month before trade compensation was agreed upon. Typically, that's not how it works. Example: The Jets and Kansas City Chiefs reached a trade agreement last year before wide receiver Tyreek Hill was permitted to talk to the Jets. Why not with the Packers? "I think each deal is a little bit different in its own right," Jets GM Joe Douglas said at the recent league meetings. "In certain trade talks there have been times when we had compensation agreed to. This one just played out different. I feel like every deal has its own life. This one was just different." So JD knowingly painted himself into a corner. He gets permission and agrees to talk with AR BEFORE comp was discussed!! and then after meeting with AR he publicly expresses his love and then he lets all other vet QB options fall away and then is surprised GB is demanding (and will get) too much for the trade. Thank you, Joe Douglas, Thank you It's not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 hours ago, ptisme said: Spite? It's called not being railroaded.... You're not sounding any less stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Lol. On draft day some of the posters in this thread are going to think this trade is worked out between the picks when it’s announced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 58 minutes ago, doitny said: your right. i found something that has it as 51 mil for 2025 and 45 mil for 2026. if thats right it still isnt good. very confusing contract It's a difficult contract to wrap your head around for sure. If Rodgers is traded, his cap hits for the Jets would be: 2023: $16m 2024: $32m 2025: assuming he retires, $58m dead cap hit, that can be spread over 2 years with a post June 1st retirement. All our young players won't hit our cap hard until 2026. Becton, Mims would be the only question marks. All this being said, Rodgers has said he'd likely have to sign a restructured deal. So it's probably going to look different anyway. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I just looked back at Page 420 of the thread and didn't see a single weed joke. @JiF what are these clowns even doing? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I just looked back at Page 420 of the thread and didn't see a single weed joke. @JiF what are these clowns even doing? Ayahuasca only in this thread. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 35 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said: It's not good. Why is a Bills fan on this board discussing aJets/Packers deal? Have you been kicked out of Bills Mafia or do Bills MB suck that much? Go look for friends elsewhere…. Preferably, someone with similar rooting interests. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 JD is either a boob for letting most of the remaining QB options get scooped up or a deal is done in principle. Nothing to date indicates he is a boob in trades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Just now, jgb said: JD is either a boob for letting most of the remaining QB options get scooped up or a deal is done in principle. Nothing to date indicates he is a boob. He HAS boobs but no, he isn't one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 43 minutes ago, Hal N of Provo said: Lol. On draft day some of the posters in this thread are going to think this trade is worked out between the picks when it’s announced. Lol you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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