Game Observations (NYG)

[KRL]

In the worst game I've ever watched, I'm still trying to process what
exactly happened.  Did the Jets actually win 13-10 over the NYG in OT???
How??? 

(Stats From: https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401547498)

* They were playing their third string center (Xavier Newman) who was on
the practice squad two days ago

* The offense could only generate FOUR positive plays all game:
  - Breece Hall 50 yard TD
  - Garrett Wilson 29 yard catch on the final drive in regulation
  - Allen Lazard 29 yard catch to set up the game tying FG
  - Malik Taylor 30 yard pass interference penalty to set up the winning
    FG
Other than that they did nothing and couldn't pick up multiple 3rd & 1's
if their mothers lives depended on it.  But credit to the offense for 
learning from the DEN game and hustling to the line to save one second
on the clock for the tying FG attempt

* The defense put up good "stats" but was totally undisciplined.  Committing
multiple personal fouls to extend the NYG only TD drive.  And allowing 200
yards on the ground when they HAD NO ABILITY TO PASS THE BALL.  Inexcusable

* Let's not forget the "brain fart" Michael Clemons committed when he jumped 
offside on a punt and allowed the NYG a first down.  Which allowed them to 
run an additional FIVE MINUTES off the clock (7:58 to 2:47) 

* What's going on with all the injuries???  Losing Al Woods, Connor
McGovern and Wes Schweitzer in the span of a couple of plays was ridiculous.
And let's not forget Xavier Gipson gimping around for the majority of the
game after he got nicked up.  Is it the turf or was it the combo of the turf
and the rain?

I think I'm done dumping on the Jets for now, let's look at the multiple 
"brain farts" the NYG committed which allowed the Jets to tie the game:

* On 4th & 1 Brian Daboll stupidly went for a risky FG with 28 seconds left
in regulation.  It was raining all day, the ball was slick and the possiblity
of a FG block (scoop & score) made the attempt stupid.  The Jets had no timeouts
left and Barkley was killing them on the ground, go for it and finish the game.
You know what happened after that

* Kayvon Thibodeaux had a great game, but by jumping offside on the 29 yard
catch by Garrett Wilson (in the middle of the field) it gave the Jets a
"free" timeout.  Those seconds that didn't tick off the clock cost them the
game

Special Teams

- Thomas Morstead was the MVP of the game hands down.  He punted 11 times for
a 48 yd avg, but more importantly he put FOUR inside the 10 yard line.  In
addition with the rain and a slick ball he gave Greg Zuerlein terrific holds
on the tying and winning FGs

- Greg Zuerlein was clutch again in poor conditions to tie and then win the 
game (2/2 FG, 1/1 XP)

Defense

- My complaints about the performance of the defense were listed previously.
In terms of who the top "stat" performers were:

 * CJ Mosley - 12 Tackles, .5 Sack, PBU, QB Hit
 * Quincy Williams - 11 Tackles, 2 TFL, PBU
 * Tony Adams - 10 Tackles, TFL
 * Quinnen Williams - 8 Tackles, TFL, QB Hit
 * Jordan Whitehead - 8 Tackles, 2 TFL, PBU
 * Jermaine Johnson - 6 Tackles, 2 Sacks, 2 TFL, 4 QB Hits
 * Quinton Jefferson - 6 Tackles, .5 Sack, QB Hit
 * Bryce Huff - 5 Tackles, Sack, TFL, QB Hit

Offense

- As stated before the offense didn't exist except for four plays.
Is that from the usual ineptitude or did the shuffling of three
centers and two guards play a role?  No one has given me an OC
title or pays me seven figures to determine that.  But all I know
is they have to get some kind of stability on the OLine, this
constant shuffling can't help anybody.  Hopefully McGovern, 
Schweitzer, Joe Tippmann and Duane Brown can be available so a
respectable five can line up

- Garrett Wilson is a special player (7 recs / 100 yards) fighting
off physical coverage and making tough catches all over the field

QB

- Zach Wilson regressed this game (17/36, 240 yards, TD) playing
behind a makeshift OLine could be used as an excuse.  But there
were too many times he held onto the ball too long and his decision
to take a sack on 4th down was ridiculous.  Wilson is trending the
wrong way after his KC performance, the Jets will not make the playoffs
if this continues

Now that all of my complaints are out of my system I must credit the
team for winning another game that the "Same Old Jets" would never
sniff.  A roster that shows toughness, resiliency and never giving up
shouldn't be ignored
 

[Larz]

The Saleh coached team looking like crap after a bye continued they just pulled a rabbit out of a hat. 

[JETS SB]

So you say the Jets only had 4 positive plays all day? Hmmm.  I must have been watching Garrett Wilson playing for another team today. 

[Adoni Beast]

2 minutes ago, Larz said:

The Saleh coached team looking like crap after a bye continued they just pulled a rabbit out of a hat. 

I never have confidence in our team after a bye. It’s been this way since time immemorial.

[Jets723]

2 minutes ago, Larz said:

The Saleh coached team looking like crap after a bye continued they just pulled a rabbit out of a hat. 

The important thing is that we got the win.  I’ve seen Good teams pull a rabbit out of the hat all the time when they don’t have their best games 

[MTJ06]

I also thought the rollout throw to CJ Uzomah was a really nice play

[sheastadiumjetfan]

Thanks KRL

nice analysis as always!

Jets of old never never and never would have walked away with the win

so these guys can get some Positive vibes off the giants game despite the abysmal offensive showing today

[sackdance]

12 minutes ago, KRL said:

In the worst game I've ever watched, I'm still trying to process what
exactly happened.  Did the Jets actually win 13-10 over the NYG in OT???
How??? 

(Stats From: https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401547498)

* They were playing their third string center (Xavier Newman) who was on
the practice squad two days ago

* The offense could only generate FOUR positive plays all game:
  - Breece Hall 50 yard TD
  - Garrett Wilson 29 yard catch on the final drive in regulation
  - Allen Lazard 29 yard catch to set up the game tying FG
  - Malik Taylor 30 yard pass interference penalty to set up the winning
    FG
Other than that they did nothing and couldn't pick up multiple 3rd & 1's
if their mothers lives depended on it.  But credit to the offense for 
learning from the DEN game and hustling to the line to save one second
on the clock for the tying FG attempt

* The defense put up good "stats" but was totally undisciplined.  Committing
multiple personal fouls to extend the NYG only TD drive.  And allowing 200
yards on the ground when they HAD NO ABILITY TO PASS THE BALL.  Inexcusable

* Let's not forget the "brain fart" Michael Clemons committed when he jumped 
offside on a punt and allowed the NYG a first down.  Which allowed them to 
run an additional FIVE MINUTES off the clock (7:58 to 2:47) 

* What's going on with all the injuries???  Losing Al Woods, Connor
McGovern and Wes Schweitzer in the span of a couple of plays was ridiculous.
And let's not forget Xavier Gipson gimping around for the majority of the
game after he got nicked up.  Is it the turf or was it the combo of the turf
and the rain?

I think I'm done dumping on the Jets for now, let's look at the multiple 
"brain farts" the NYG committed which allowed the Jets to tie the game:

* On 4th & 1 Brian Daboll stupidly went for a risky FG with 28 seconds left
in regulation.  It was raining all day, the ball was slick and the possiblity
of a FG block (scoop & score) made the attempt stupid.  The Jets had no timeouts
left and Barkley was killing them on the ground, go for it and finish the game.
You know what happened after that

* Kayvon Thibodeaux had a great game, but by jumping offside on the 29 yard
catch by Garrett Wilson (in the middle of the field) it gave the Jets a
"free" timeout.  Those seconds that didn't tick off the clock cost them the
game

Special Teams

- Thomas Morstead was the MVP of the game hands down.  He punted 11 times for
a 48 yd avg, but more importantly he put FOUR inside the 10 yard line.  In
addition with the rain and a slick ball he gave Greg Zuerlein terrific holds
on the tying and winning FGs

- Greg Zuerlein was clutch again in poor conditions to tie and then win the 
game (2/2 FG, 1/1 XP)

Defense

- My complaints about the performance of the defense were listed previously.
In terms of who the top "stat" performers were:

 * CJ Mosley - 12 Tackles, .5 Sack, PBU, QB Hit
 * Quincy Williams - 11 Tackles, 2 TFL, PBU
 * Tony Adams - 10 Tackles, TFL
 * Quinnen Williams - 8 Tackles, TFL, QB Hit
 * Jordan Whitehead - 8 Tackles, 2 TFL, PBU
 * Jermaine Johnson - 6 Tackles, 2 Sacks, 2 TFL, 4 QB Hits
 * Quinton Jefferson - 6 Tackles, .5 Sack, QB Hit
 * Bryce Huff - 5 Tackles, Sack, TFL, QB Hit

Offense

- As stated before the offense didn't exist except for four plays.
Is that from the usual ineptitude or did the shuffling of three
centers and two guards play a role?  No one has given me an OC
title or pays me seven figures to determine that.  But all I know
is they have to get some kind of stability on the OLine, this
constant shuffling can't help anybody.  Hopefully McGovern, 
Schweitzer, Joe Tippmann and Duane Brown can be available so a
respectable five can line up

- Garrett Wilson is a special player (7 recs / 100 yards) fighting
off physical coverage and making tough catches all over the field

QB

- Zach Wilson regressed this game (17/36, 240 yards, TD) playing
behind a makeshift OLine could be used as an excuse.  But there
were too many times he held onto the ball too long and his decision
to take a sack on 4th down was ridiculous.  Wilson is trending the
wrong way after his KC performance, the Jets will not make the playoffs
if this continues

Now that all of my complaints are out of my system I must credit the
team for winning another game that the "Same Old Jets" would never
sniff.  A roster that shows toughness, resiliency and never giving up
shouldn't be ignored
 

Appreciate the game briefing - but to be frank, your sentiment should be in every Jet fan’s heart by now: “A roster that shows toughness, resiliency and never giving up
shouldn't be ignored”

This team shows heart and wins more than they lose. I’m all in!!!

[Darnold's Forehead]

7 minutes ago, Larz said:

The Saleh coached team looking like crap after a bye continued they just pulled a rabbit out of a hat. 

NYG pulled the rabbit out and handed it to us.

[LSJF]

I’ll take the dub, conditions were horrible, always come up slow after about a Bye week, tons of penalties as usual… But it’s a win, now you go improve for next week

[bicketybam]

So you say the Jets only had 4 positive plays all day? Hmmm.  I must have been watching Garrett Wilson playing for another team today. 

I stopped reading his diatribe after he wrote that.

[greasyt]

We need a qb....plain and simple....I was so hoping it would be Zach after the KC game, but that appears to be an outlier....who's out there? Stafford? Minshew? Testaverde? 

For the record, if Rodgers is the guy we are at worst case 6-1......hopefully he can someway, somehow come back this year!!! Even if the NFL is scripted, it would be epic, him hoisting the trophy in a walking boot and creepy stash!!!

 

[doitny]

1 hour ago, sackdance said:

Appreciate the game briefing - but to be frank, your sentiment should be in every Jet fan’s heart by now: “A roster that shows toughness, resiliency and never giving up
shouldn't be ignored”

This team shows heart and wins more than they lose. I’m all in!!!

and Saleh should get credit for that.

oh sorry he just gets the blame for all the bad, no credit for anything else.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

The GW FG barely squeaked inside

[Alka]

1 hour ago, KRL said:

On 4th & 1 Brian Daboll stupidly went for a risky FG with 28 seconds left
in regulation.  It was raining all day, the ball was slick and the possiblity
of a FG block (scoop & score) made the attempt stupid.  The Jets had no timeouts
left and Barkley was killing them on the ground, go for it and finish the game.
You know what happened after that

I agree with everything you said except for this.  The fact that the Jets threw the ball down the field with 24 seconds left to tie the game, proves to me that Daboll made the correct decision to kick the field goal.  It was a kick that Gano last year would have made in his sleep.  And to dispute you call even more, the Jets seemed to have no problem kicking the field goals in the rain with a slick ball when they needed to, so why not the Giants?

But the other 99% of your analysis is impressive as always, and you are once again a "must read".

[Jet_Engine1]

28 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

1 hour ago, JETS SB said:

So you say the Jets only had 4 positive plays all day? Hmmm.  I must have been watching Garrett Wilson playing for another team today. 

I stopped reading his diatribe after he wrote that.

Yes. @KRL is known for his rants, diatribes and hyperbole  round these parts...

 

Who are you again?

[Maxman]

@KRL great recap. But isn't this actually the fourth string center?

1. McGovern

2. Tippmann

3. Schweitenator

[Maxman]

1 hour ago, Adoni Beast said:

I never have confidence in our team after a bye. It’s been this way since time immemorial.

Bye bye bye week losing streak.

 

[doitny]

7 minutes ago, Maxman said:

Bye bye bye week losing streak.

 

another streak we ended. Saleh now has 2 under his belt...

oh sorry he is sooo bad he gets no credit..lol

things could be worst, we could have Daboll as our HC.

[RoadFan]

Quincy Williams could have gotten another 15 yard penalty for taunting by jumping up and down and staring at Barkley…

 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

13 minutes ago, Maxman said:

@KRL great recap. But isn't this actually the fourth string center?

1. McGovern

2. Tippmann

3. Schweitenator

The law firm of Schweitzer, Tippman, and McGovern

[Skeptable]

1 hour ago, KRL said:

In the worst game I've ever watched, I'm still trying to process what
exactly happened.  Did the Jets actually win 13-10 over the NYG in OT???
How??? 

(Stats From: https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401547498)

* They were playing their third string center (Xavier Newman) who was on
the practice squad two days ago

* The offense could only generate FOUR positive plays all game:
  - Breece Hall 50 yard TD
  - Garrett Wilson 29 yard catch on the final drive in regulation
  - Allen Lazard 29 yard catch to set up the game tying FG
  - Malik Taylor 30 yard pass interference penalty to set up the winning
    FG
Other than that they did nothing and couldn't pick up multiple 3rd & 1's
if their mothers lives depended on it.  But credit to the offense for 
learning from the DEN game and hustling to the line to save one second
on the clock for the tying FG attempt

* The defense put up good "stats" but was totally undisciplined.  Committing
multiple personal fouls to extend the NYG only TD drive.  And allowing 200
yards on the ground when they HAD NO ABILITY TO PASS THE BALL.  Inexcusable

* Let's not forget the "brain fart" Michael Clemons committed when he jumped 
offside on a punt and allowed the NYG a first down.  Which allowed them to 
run an additional FIVE MINUTES off the clock (7:58 to 2:47) 

* What's going on with all the injuries???  Losing Al Woods, Connor
McGovern and Wes Schweitzer in the span of a couple of plays was ridiculous.
And let's not forget Xavier Gipson gimping around for the majority of the
game after he got nicked up.  Is it the turf or was it the combo of the turf
and the rain?

I think I'm done dumping on the Jets for now, let's look at the multiple 
"brain farts" the NYG committed which allowed the Jets to tie the game:

* On 4th & 1 Brian Daboll stupidly went for a risky FG with 28 seconds left
in regulation.  It was raining all day, the ball was slick and the possiblity
of a FG block (scoop & score) made the attempt stupid.  The Jets had no timeouts
left and Barkley was killing them on the ground, go for it and finish the game.
You know what happened after that

* Kayvon Thibodeaux had a great game, but by jumping offside on the 29 yard
catch by Garrett Wilson (in the middle of the field) it gave the Jets a
"free" timeout.  Those seconds that didn't tick off the clock cost them the
game

Special Teams

- Thomas Morstead was the MVP of the game hands down.  He punted 11 times for
a 48 yd avg, but more importantly he put FOUR inside the 10 yard line.  In
addition with the rain and a slick ball he gave Greg Zuerlein terrific holds
on the tying and winning FGs

- Greg Zuerlein was clutch again in poor conditions to tie and then win the 
game (2/2 FG, 1/1 XP)

Defense

- My complaints about the performance of the defense were listed previously.
In terms of who the top "stat" performers were:

 * CJ Mosley - 12 Tackles, .5 Sack, PBU, QB Hit
 * Quincy Williams - 11 Tackles, 2 TFL, PBU
 * Tony Adams - 10 Tackles, TFL
 * Quinnen Williams - 8 Tackles, TFL, QB Hit
 * Jordan Whitehead - 8 Tackles, 2 TFL, PBU
 * Jermaine Johnson - 6 Tackles, 2 Sacks, 2 TFL, 4 QB Hits
 * Quinton Jefferson - 6 Tackles, .5 Sack, QB Hit
 * Bryce Huff - 5 Tackles, Sack, TFL, QB Hit

Offense

- As stated before the offense didn't exist except for four plays.
Is that from the usual ineptitude or did the shuffling of three
centers and two guards play a role?  No one has given me an OC
title or pays me seven figures to determine that.  But all I know
is they have to get some kind of stability on the OLine, this
constant shuffling can't help anybody.  Hopefully McGovern, 
Schweitzer, Joe Tippmann and Duane Brown can be available so a
respectable five can line up

- Garrett Wilson is a special player (7 recs / 100 yards) fighting
off physical coverage and making tough catches all over the field

QB

- Zach Wilson regressed this game (17/36, 240 yards, TD) playing
behind a makeshift OLine could be used as an excuse.  But there
were too many times he held onto the ball too long and his decision
to take a sack on 4th down was ridiculous.  Wilson is trending the
wrong way after his KC performance, the Jets will not make the playoffs
if this continues

Now that all of my complaints are out of my system I must credit the
team for winning another game that the "Same Old Jets" would never
sniff.  A roster that shows toughness, resiliency and never giving up
shouldn't be ignored
 

 

[GreekJetinPatLand]

I was at the game. The conditions were awful for most of the game. I knew there were going to be a lot of injuries on both sides. 

The biggest concern is that this oline may not be functional anymore. You’ve got backups of backups playing. 

[Adoni Beast]

19 minutes ago, Maxman said:

Bye bye bye week losing streak.

 

Let’s hope they learned that they can’t come out flat next week. In a lot of ways the next 2 weeks is our season.

[KRL]

Considering how Wilson looked on the final drive of regulation
should Hackett go "no huddle, hurry up" to shake him out of his
ruts?

[FidelioJet]

LOL to stat guys.

 

 

[Adoni Beast]

As ugly as today’s game was…

I wish we played the Giants in the regular season ever year.

With the 17 games per season now it should be an annual game. Fun build up all week and during the game with knowing/hating a lot of Giants fans.

[Snook]

2 hours ago, Larz said:

The Saleh coached team looking like crap after a bye continued they just pulled a rabbit out of a hat. 

As much as I want to agree with you they won.

[varjet]

• A good portion of this board thought that basically the entire PS should be OL given the rate the Jets chew through them.  That was a true observatoin. 
• At some point the injuries to the OL in particular has to be attributed to bad training, etc.  Something is not working here.  The OL in 2009-2010 played every game for 2 years.  
• Quincy and Mosley are playing carrying the entire defense.  They compensating for lesser performance by others this year.  

[GreekJetinPatLand]

Zach regressed big time today. A lot of situations where he left the pocket too early and ran into sacks and pressure. 

[GreekJetinPatLand]

1 minute ago, varjet said:

• A good portion of this board thought that basically the entire PS should be OL given the rate the Jets chew through them.  That was a true observatoin. 
• At some point the injuries to the OL in particular has to be attributed to bad training, etc.  Something is not working here.  The OL in 2009-2010 played every game for 2 years.  
• Quincy and Mosley are playing carrying the entire defense.  They compensating for lesser performance by others this year.  

It’s very strange what happens annually with the OL. It destroyed the Jets season last season as well. It appears to happen to the Giants as well so perhaps a MetLife thing?

[Snook]

1 hour ago, bicketybam said:

2 hours ago, JETS SB said:

So you say the Jets only had 4 positive plays all day? Hmmm.  I must have been watching Garrett Wilson playing for another team today. 

I stopped reading his diatribe after he wrote that.

Diatribe?

[frankiepapa]

Considering how Wilson looked on the final drive of regulation
should Hackett go "no huddle, hurry up" to shake him out of his
ruts?

This is something they just never seem to do.. even early 4th in other games where they trail, there is never a sense of urgency... only when they're down 7 to 10 late 4th... not saying Zach is good but that seems to be his strength.. play to his strength... keep the defense honest...I think our opponents would sh*t if we ever came out in a hurry up offense

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[Nixhead]

1 hour ago, Skeptable said:

 

This is true - there was some very catchable drops today - 4 of them, no running game and the conditions were terrible and lets not forget the injuries. But the offensive game plan was horrible. Zach has to take some deep shots in order to open up things underneath - This is a must! Cant wait until 24 seconds left in the game to start throwing the ball deep. Throw a few deep balls the very first series. Horrible play calling is not helping out Zach - but he did suck for 59min and 36 seconds.

[Maxman]

1 hour ago, doitny said:

another streak we ended. Saleh now has 2 under his belt...

oh sorry he is sooo bad he gets no credit..lol

things could be worst, we could have Daboll as our HC.

I like Daboll a lot but damn he is having a bad year. He made a big bet on Danny and it isn't working out.

A QB guy like Daboll seems to have helped Allen and Danny so much. But Allen has the moon as his upside. Danny not so much. So I thought they would let Danny walk and have someone else overpay him.

I am glad they didn't do that.