Tankathon (2023-24 Season Edition)

[David Harris]

19 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

I’m expecting the Jets to end up with the 3rd pick and select Marvin Harrison Jr.

I think even at two they select Harrison. 

What's the consensus of Marvin Harrision Jr. versus the two LT's?

I typically err on the side of lineman but is Harrision like the slam dunk best wideout prospect since Calvin Johnson?  Would we take him over Alt and Fashanu?

[Bay Ridge Jet]

3 hours ago, Gen X Jet said:

“Win one for Bill”

Bailey Zappe Carrie’s bill off the field on his shoulders after a 10-6 victory over Luke Falk and the Jets

[Saul Goodman]

24 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

I’m expecting the Jets to end up with the 3rd pick and select Marvin Harrison Jr.

I think even at two they select Harrison. 

🙏 🙏 🙏 Taller, 20lb heavier version of his pops, with impeccable character. I mean, I’d take Drake or Caleb if I were making the selection but MHJ is the best overall prospect in a long time. I’d be really excited about this team again. 

[Ghost420]

7 minutes ago, David Harris said:

What's the consensus of Marvin Harrision Jr. versus the two LT's?

I typically err on the side of lineman but is Harrision like the slam dunk best wideout prospect since Calvin Johnson?  Would we take him over Alt and Fashanu?

If mhj comes out this yr and he's available you take him and figure the rest out. 

[TuscanyTile2]

14 minutes ago, David Harris said:

What's the consensus of Marvin Harrision Jr. versus the two LT's?

I typically err on the side of lineman but is Harrision like the slam dunk best wideout prospect since Calvin Johnson?  Would we take him over Alt and Fashanu?

As someone who has barely seen any of these guys, just based on hype, I would take MHJ.  If you can get a superstar skill position player that would be something.  And if we pair up MHJ with GW, I do believe in the idea that "pressure bursts pipes".  As in, you can't double-cover everyone.  If you try to double-team GW and MHJ then someone else will be open.  

[Adoni Beast]

15 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

As someone who has barely seen any of these guys, just based on hype, I would take MHJ.  If you can get a superstar skill position player that would be something.  And if we pair up MHJ with GW, I do believe in the idea that "pressure bursts pipes".  As in, you can't double-cover everyone.  If you try to double-team GW and MHJ then someone else will be open.  

If Harrison Jr. is on the board whenever/wherever we pick then he should absolutely be the pick unless Drake Maye is on the board which obviously won't happen.

[GreenFish]

36 minutes ago, David Harris said:

What's the consensus of Marvin Harrision Jr. versus the two LT's?

I typically err on the side of lineman but is Harrision like the slam dunk best wideout prospect since Calvin Johnson?  Would we take him over Alt and Fashanu?

I think he is viewed in that Calvin Johnson level. So a better prospect than Chase.

I think Rodgers will jump on the table for him.

[Adoni Beast]

16 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

As someone who has barely seen any of these guys, just based on hype, I would take MHJ.  If you can get a superstar skill position player that would be something.  And if we pair up MHJ with GW, I do believe in the idea that "pressure bursts pipes".  As in, you can't double-cover everyone.  If you try to double-team GW and MHJ then someone else will be open.  

I'll take it a step further and say that I think if Arizona is sitting at #2 and it's between Harrison Jr, trade down, or one of Caleb/Maye....I think they take Harrison Jr.

[Hex]

1 minute ago, GreenFish said:

I think he is viewed in that Calvin Johnson level. So a better prospect than Chase.

I think Rodgers will jump on the table for him.

Counterpoint, Rodgers hates throwing to rookie WRs.

I still think it's worth it though.

[GreenFish]

Just now, Hex said:

Counterpoint, Rodgers hates throwing to rookie WRs.

I still think it's worth it though.

Hmm.  Good point. Should be interesting. Rodgers will have a say. Now I’m not sure what he’ll say. lol

[Augustiniak]

Very difficult to know where they’re picking so it’s hard to evaluate the draft approach.

i do think if they get into the top 3, they will trade out and get a 2nd rounder.  

[derp]

1 hour ago, neckdemon said:

Well we would leapfrog Washington and New England because of the losses. Chicago plays Arizona so we would leapfrog the winner. I guess there a chance that New England gets #3 still on SoS but I don't think so

I don’t know how SOS plays out for New England but it’s close. Lots of overlap obviously. Even the loss itself should make SOS closer between the two teams. Only .002 off the Giants in SOS too. Washington a lock if Jets lose out of course and Chicago/Arizona winner likely.

[JetPotato]

Can the league flex us out of the Washington game and play Dallas again instead?

[neckdemon]

13 minutes ago, derp said:

I don’t know how SOS plays out for New England but it’s close. Lots of overlap obviously. Even the loss itself should make SOS closer between the two teams. Only .002 off the Giants in SOS too. Washington a lock if Jets lose out of course and Chicago/Arizona winner likely.

Giants play a few difficult teams still

[bla bla bla]

Based on draft slot

1 or 2 = Trade out

3 = MHJ

4 = Alt

5 = Fashanu

If we were to trade down (outside of top 5), Bowers, Coleman, Latham, Nabers Odunze and Fuaga are players I'd be interested in.

Jets will have plenty of money to do whatever they want in FA too.

Per OTC

Image 1: current = $37m

Image 2: cut Uzomah & Bawden + Restructure Reed & Conklin = $55m

Image 3: same as above + Restructure JFM & Mosley = $75m

The other years update as well so you can see what space is available for 2025 and 2026.

 

 

[Augustiniak]

3 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

Based on draft slot

1 or 2 = Trade out

3 = MHJ

4 = Alt

5 = Fashanu

If we were to trade down (outside of top 5), Bowers, Coleman, Latham, Nabers Odunze and Fuaga are players I'd be interested in.

Jets will have plenty of money to do whatever they want in FA too.

Per OTC

Image 1: current = $37m

Image 2: cut Uzomah & Bawden + Restructure Reed & Conklin = $55m

Image 3: same as above + Restructure JFM & Mosley = $75m

The other years update as well so you can see what space is available for 2025 and 2026.

 

 

If they’re in the top 3 i could see them trading out.  Would like to see a qb taken on day 2. 

[bla bla bla]

3 hours ago, Augustiniak said:

If they’re in the top 3 i could see them trading out.  Would like to see a qb taken on day 2. 

Yea I would be fine with that too, would still be looking for a haul if we are giving up MHJ

[Bay Ridge Jet]

4 hours ago, David Harris said:

What's the consensus of Marvin Harrision Jr. versus the two LT's?

I typically err on the side of lineman but is Harrision like the slam dunk best wideout prospect since Calvin Johnson?  Would we take him over Alt and Fashanu?

Kiper said at one point this season he’s gonna end up with pre draft grades of Fitz and Calvin. Seems like the kind of talent you have to bring in if you can. Rodgers would prob bang the table for him

[Augustiniak]

3 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

Yea I would be fine with that too, would still be looking for a haul if we are giving up MHJ

The whole draft position is so fluid it is all speculation until we know

[Adoni Beast]

1 minute ago, Bay Ridge Jet said:

Kiper said at one point this season he’s gonna end up with pre draft grades of Fitz and Calvin. Seems like the kind of talent you have to bring in if you can. Rodgers would prob bang the table for him

When you have a difference making talent, especially on offense, take him. Don't get cute with the trade down stuff....3 ok players don't impact each game like 1 elite player.

[JohnnyLV]

3 hours ago, bla bla bla said:

Based on draft slot

1 or 2 = Trade out

3 = MHJ

4 = Alt

5 = Fashanu

If we were to trade down (outside of top 5), Bowers, Coleman, Latham, Nabers Odunze and Fuaga are players I'd be interested in.

Jets will have plenty of money to do whatever they want in FA too.

Per OTC

Image 1: current = $37m

Image 2: cut Uzomah & Bawden + Restructure Reed & Conklin = $55m

Image 3: same as above + Restructure JFM & Mosley = $75m

The other years update as well so you can see what space is available for 2025 and 2026.

 

 

If you are drafting Top 3 and you have 1 of the QBs there as BPA. You take him. Period. You simply do not pass on a FQB just because others failed. The NFL is 80% about the QB you have

 

[Maynard13]

22 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

We’re going to lose out, and draft another USC QB with the #2 pick.

This can’t end up any other way.

You think? Caleb may pull an Eli manning and say NOPE I'm not playing for the Jets.

[Dunnie]

If you are drafting Top 3 and you have 1 of the QBs there as BPA. You take him. Period. You simply do not pass on a FQB just because others failed. The NFL is 80% about the QB you have
 

Cause that's worked for this team so far ... I say trade down for a ransom.



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[derp]

10 hours ago, David Harris said:

What's the consensus of Marvin Harrision Jr. versus the two LT's?

I typically err on the side of lineman but is Harrision like the slam dunk best wideout prospect since Calvin Johnson?  Would we take him over Alt and Fashanu?

Slam dunk best WR prospect since AJ Green/Julio Jones, but probably one since Calvin Johnson. Not in the Johnson tier but that’s not much of a knock, Johnson was a unicorn. Definitely a completely different tier of prospect than the tackles in this class.

[bla bla bla]

19 hours ago, JohnnyLV said:

If you are drafting Top 3 and you have 1 of the QBs there as BPA. You take him. Period. You simply do not pass on a FQB just because others failed. The NFL is 80% about the QB you have

That's if you deem them a franchise QB, I'd rather trade out personally. Jayden Daniels is the only QB I'm really interested in and at this point does not appear to be a top 2 pick.

[JohnnyLV]

17 hours ago, Dunnie said:

Cause that's worked for this team so far ... I say trade down for a ransom.



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No you just never pass on a RQB. Now if you have concerns about the QB then other options are in play

[Fantasy Island]

Saw an article where MHJ is 50/50 on whether to come out early.  He still wants to beat Michigan.  Also doubt he will sign here if Zach still on the roster, if we select him.

[mfmartin]

Saw an article where MHJ is 50/50 on whether to come out early.  He still wants to beat Michigan.  Also doubt he will sign here if Zach still on the roster, if we select him.

The last point is just a brain dead take.


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[chirorob]

On 12/8/2023 at 12:56 PM, Hex said:

Counterpoint, Rodgers hates throwing to rookie WRs.

I still think it's worth it though.

Counter counter point.

Rodgers hasn't thrown to a 1st round WR in over a decade.

[Barton]

It really depends on what the Jets do in free agency before the draft

If Joe D acquires 2 top end Oline starts, specifically a LT - does he still take a LT in the top 5-10 picks? Maybe not.

If Joe D acquires Davante Adams, would he still consider drafting Marvin Harrison Jr? Maybe or maybe not.

 

But he HAS to fill major holes in free agency/trade market before the draft.

The weapons position (WR, TE) or Oline needs to be COMPLETELY SOLIDIFIED before the draft. Preferably both. 

[Hex]

5 hours ago, chirorob said:

Counter counter point.

Rodgers hasn't thrown to a 1st round WR in over a decade.

Well the main reason why he doesn't like it is because they haven't learned how to deal with audibles well.

[derp]

RIP

[Joe W. Namath]

Tank mode is over.  We now root for 9-8 and sneak into the playoffs.  Hahahahahaaha.  Just unreal.

[GreenFish]

My draft pick. sigh.

[Bay Ridge Jet]

On 12/8/2023 at 9:04 AM, Joe W. Namath said:

We dont have a qb who can throw a td.  We will lose out, get the 2nd pick in the draft and take drake maye.

Its happening jet fans!!!!

It is no longer happening