JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Pac said: Jones ripped up his knee twice last year and barely played. This is a risk for MN. ?? Your definition of “Ripped up” must be different from most. IIRC he started the year with a nagging hamstring injury and then sprained his MCL late in the year. And it apparently didn’t affect him too much in the postseason. He performed like an absolute beast in the wild card game, scoring 3 TDs and running all over Dallas. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 17 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said: I get it, but I highly doubt you're going to pry away a starting QB for pennies. If we had a 2nd rounder this year, sure, but this team is desperate for cheap depth. Take a flyer on a kid from the later rounds who will presumably ride the pine on the practice squad all year and learn behind our two very veteran QBs. Great let’s draft the next AJ McCarron in the 6th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 14 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Rodgers is playing two more years, There is no logical reason to think that is likely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 24 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Teams like Pittsburgh and Baltimore have traditionally built a pipeline of OL through the draft. Douglas has attempted it but largely sucked at nailing the picks. Ideally you draft these guys in the mid-late rounds, let them develop for a year or two, they slide in as a starter for 2-3 before you let them walk in FA, rinse and repeat. Part of the problem is that he doesn’t take those guys in the mid-late rounds. That issue is twofold. One, he just trades the picks away. And two, it’s such a scramble to build depth that he signs veterans for those spots in FA so there’s no room on the roster to develop those guys. Problem is that means there’s never a cheap in house replacement and the cycle just continues. It’s borderline negligent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, August said: Great let’s draft the next AJ McCarron in the 6th round. Lol yeah dude, you can find a Sam Howell equivalent in the later rounds and not have to give up the asinine amount of picks you suggested. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, C Mart said: They don’t have the cap to sign big name/$$ guys. They can very easily clear cap and backload contracts. This is a fallacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, JohnnyLV said: There is no logical reason to think that is likely. There’s no logical reason to think that it isn’t. As long as Rodgers wants to play, short of him falling off a cliff head first into a barrel of sh*t, he’ll be the Jets starting QB. Why wouldn’t he be? We haven’t had more than 2 seasons of sustained “good” QB play since Namath. Kenny O’Brien is this teams best QB in the last half a century for f*ck sake. While you guys dupe yourselves into thinking this team is going to find the next Mahomes through the draft, they can’t even find their own Kirk Cousins or Derek Carr. So you better pray that Aaron Rodgers comes back at full health and plays as long as he remains a viable starter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 17 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: The teams asking price definitely just plummeted with the signing of Mariota and the obvious plan to draft a QB with the end pick. I think he could be had for a 5th....but that won't be coming from us. He stinks and will be released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, section314 said: He stinks and will be released. He's decent especially given his contract is a good value option for any team. Now I'm not suggesting we give up picks for him but he's not a bad backup option at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 9 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said: Lol yeah dude, you can find a Sam Howell equivalent in the later rounds and not have to give up the asinine amount of picks you suggested. I know what Howell is I’m not sure what the 10th QB in this draft is. I have an idea though… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, August said: I know what Howell is I’m not sure what the 10th QB in this draft is. I have an idea though… We're not trading picks for a 3rd string QB. That would be incredibly stupid. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 11 minutes ago, derp said: Part of the problem is that he doesn’t take those guys in the mid-late rounds. That issue is twofold. One, he just trades the picks away. And two, it’s such a scramble to build depth that he signs veterans for those spots in FA so there’s no room on the roster to develop those guys. Problem is that means there’s never a cheap in house replacement and the cycle just continues. It’s borderline negligent. I think borderline is kind. There have been several OL rich drafts that he has straight up opted out of taking players outside of round 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, August said: I know what Howell is I’m not sure what the 10th QB in this draft is. I have an idea though… I think we all likely know what Sam Howell is. Probably a dude who kicks around the league as a backup for 6 years and then is out of it entirely. That’s much more likely than him developing into a viable starter and the eventual successor to Rodgers. So why the hell would you trade the equivalent of a high 3rd round pick/low 2nd round pick for a guy who is going to carry a surface tablet for A-Rod and Tyrod for two years before he inevitably walks in FA? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said: We're not trading picks for a 3rd string QB. That would be incredibly stupid. Did you forget what team we are talking about here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: Damn. Was hoping for him.😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Untouchable said: I think we all likely know what Sam Howell is. Probably a dude who kicks around the league as a backup for 6 years and then is out of it entirely. That’s much more likely than him developing into a viable starter and the eventual successor to Rodgers. So why the hell would you trade the equivalent of a high 3rd round pick/low 2nd round pick for a guy who is going to carry a surface tablet for A-Rod and Tyrod for two years before he inevitably walks in FA? We know what he is based on one year? There are people here who still thinks Darnold has potential but Howell after one year is a finished product? Howell will more than likely be the backup and Tyrod will be the 3rd QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 unreal contract for Mooney. I've liked him as a player but he has done almost nothing for two years. We are going to get fleeced for our #2 wr if we pursue one. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, August said: We know what he is based on one year? There are people here who still thinks Darnold has potential but Howell after one year is a finished product? Howell will more than likely be the backup and Tyrod will be the 3rd QB. There are people who will never see things for what they are. Sam Darnold is in all likelihood, a solid backup QB. Not Rich Gannon. He’s unlikely to ever “resurrect” his career. But he’s always had intriguing physical tools and will only be 27 at the start of the season so a team in QB no man’s land like Minnesota will give him a shot. And the Jets didn’t just give Tyrod 2 years, $18 million to play 3rd fiddle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 13 minutes ago, August said: We know what he is based on one year? There are people here who still thinks Darnold has potential but Howell after one year is a finished product? Howell will more than likely be the backup and Tyrod will be the 3rd QB. Lol dude stop embarrassing yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: unreal contract for Mooney. I've liked him as a player but he has done almost nothing for two years. We are going to get fleeced for our #2 wr if we pursue one. WR is one of the most coveted positions in the league. No losing team is getting a bargain for a name WR in free agency. I think even the Chiefs will struggle to get a bargain for a big name. All of these guys (Ridley, Brown, etc) will get PAID, IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: unreal contract for Mooney. I've liked him as a player but he has done almost nothing for two years. We are going to get fleeced for our #2 wr if we pursue one. I've always liked Mooney - really wanted us to draft him originally - but I wasn't expecting him to get that much. WRs getting paid, with this and the Gabe Davis deal real eye-openers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 39 minutes ago, neckdemon said: They can very easily clear cap and backload contracts. This is a fallacy Sure...You eventually have to pay. You want to pay an OG $60m guaranteed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Obviously it all depends on the price and contract terms but I leaning towards Jonah Williams with the intent to start at RT but can play LT if the likely injury-ridden LT we sign (Bakhtiari or Tyron Smith) get hurt, while still drafting a LT. I don't think Jonah Williams is amazing but he is a good RT with experience at left and is still young and durable the last few years after a rough start in the pros. Again, depends on the price but if we're signing Bakhtiari then we need the other tackle we sign to be able to play LT if needed. This also allows AVT to stay at guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Surprised at so much RB movement, one teams trash is another teams gold it seems. Ekler to Washington Mixon traded to Houston 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 JD is stuck in the 80s. He thinks gas is still under a dollar. That cheap ****. He’s not cheap when he goes out to eat though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, mrcoops said: WRs getting paid, with this and the Gabe Davis deal real eye-openers. Yep. Wait until Ridley and Hollywood Brown sign. Those guys will both get bigger contracts than either Davis or Mooney got. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Yep. Wait until Ridley and Hollywood Brown sign. Those guys will both get bigger contracts than either Davis or Mooney got. Some of these deals so far for OL and WR have been really awful on a value level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Yep. Wait until Ridley and Hollywood Brown sign. Those guys will both get bigger contracts than either Davis or Mooney got. Both VERY questionable players imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 We kinda need a RB2 but with RBs flying of the board do we pivot to the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Both VERY questionable players imo. I like Ridley more than you do. I don't love him as your WR1, but I think he would be a high quality WR2 and complement Wilson nicely. Brown could also be a good WR2 in the right system. Neither player is can't miss. It has to be a good fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 24 minutes ago, Untouchable said: He’s unlikely to ever “resurrect” his career. But he’s always had intriguing physical tools and will only be 27 at the start of the season so a team in QB no man’s land like Minnesota will give him a shot. And the Jets didn’t just give Tyrod 2 years, $18 million to play 3rd fiddle. I am going to beat this dead horse. A playoff-ish team with a top WR is willing to give Sam Darnold a shot, just like some on the Jets wanted to. Darnold is the presumptive starter sort of. No one is giving Zach Wilson a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 26 minutes ago, Untouchable said: There are people who will never see things for what they are. Sam Darnold is in all likelihood, a solid backup QB. Not Rich Gannon. He’s unlikely to ever “resurrect” his career. But he’s always had intriguing physical tools and will only be 27 at the start of the season so a team in QB no man’s land like Minnesota will give him a shot. And the Jets didn’t just give Tyrod 2 years, $18 million to play 3rd fiddle. After last year with injuries they want a strong QB room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 15 minutes ago, Ghost said: JD is stuck in the 80s. He thinks gas is still under a dollar. That cheap ****. He’s not cheap when he goes out to eat though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 22 minutes ago, slimjasi said: WR is one of the most coveted positions in the league. No losing team is getting a bargain for a name WR in free agency. I think even the Chiefs will struggle to get a bargain for a big name. All of these guys (Ridley, Brown, etc) will get PAID, IMO. I am legit wondering if the jets will go wr at 10, or after a trade back, and then grab an OL in the 2nd round. They can still find quality OL in round 2, and if there’s a stud wr there after a trade (ie, Bryan Thomas), maybe they go playmaker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.