Very early, very non-concrete nugget: the Jets have had talks about moving to Queens.

[Dcat]

The NY Jets just reserved the moving vans.  Let's go.  This is going to be so exciting. 

 

What's the over/under on the # of useless threads on this before the leverage is applied to get what they want from the NY Giants and the NJSEA, who are the Gestapo it seems.

[Rich Thornburgh]

6 hours ago, Dcat said:

same here.  Grew up in Forest Hills, right near LIE/Corona.  Somehow wound up in NW NJ. I would travel to Queens to games there....  No problem.  Obviously more convenient for me if they stay here, but I get it.  Ive been here since 1984 and that place has zero personality.  None. It sucked in Giants Stadium and it sucks with co-ownership as well. For me, it's just a convenient ride.  I hope they blow the ugly air conditioner up one day. Really... physical appearance is important.  MetLife is like a misplaced hobo in a formal gathering.

Tbh if you’re a jets fan in jersey Queens might be easier.  You gotta drive to the game, pay for parking, tolls, gas and it takes forever to get out of the meadowlands after the game

If the games are in queens all you gotta do is take the bus or nj transit train to midtown and then take the 7 train to Mets Willets Point and it goes direct nonstop during games

0 stress and cheaper 

 

[jetsfan56]

My father had an old beater car we used to take into the city for games at Shea back in the day. We always parked near those chop shops because my old man refused to pay for parking at the stadium. I hadn’t thought about that in years…wow. 

Last time I parked there every car on the street had at least 1 window broken including the prybar dent in my roof and sunroof glass all over the interior. I figured it was retaliation for not paying to park in one of those “protected” little parking lots all around.


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[Rich Thornburgh]

1 minute ago, jetsfan56 said:

Last time I parked there every car on the street had at least 1 window broken including the prybar dent in my roof and sunroof glass all over the interior. I figured it was retaliation for not paying to park in one of those “protected” little parking lots all around.


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I did that once it was a nightmare and I had to leave early 

[Rich Thornburgh]

2 hours ago, Dcat said:

The NY Jets just reserved the moving vans.  Let's go.  This is going to be so exciting. 

 

What's the over/under on the # of useless threads on this before the leverage is applied to get what they want from the NY Giants and the NJSEA, who are the Gestapo it seems.

I dunno.  Cohen’s got the money to walk the walk on this

[adb280z]

3 hours ago, Bugg said:

Agree for the most part. The train is awful; they didn't think thru making it one seat with no transfer from Penn Station to Metlife? 

Had tickets with a group, some in Brooklyn, others in LI and Jersey. Gave up post PSL after season 3 of Metlife.

Disagreement about roads, access. The new stadium did in fact make getting in and out a pain in the ass. It does take longer, with a needlessly complicated parking tier system. And the stadium itself has the worst ingress/egress of any stadium I have ever been to. And it's not close. No spirals because some silly people did something; how moronic. And why it is they don't have enough security such you need to be at the gate by 12:15 to be in your seat by 1PM; again, idiotic. People are paying no small amount of $; they're your customers. You could treat them better than prison inmates.  One of my sons is an electrician and forgot he had a tool in his coat pocket. he doesn't even drink , not a threat to throw it at anyone. Was treated like a terrorist. Congratulations, security; you have made sure a guy with some disposable income will never darken your stadium ever again. 

What stadium allows fans to bring in tools? 

[jetsfan56]

 The stadium could be his legacy. He wanted the Westside stadium. If they do win superbowl that would be time to try and get it.
Unfortunately, he may want this more then winning. Johnson and Johnson stadium? 

My wife thinks Hess should buy the naming rights to any stadium the Jets play in


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[Morrissey]

i'm not gonna bother reading all these posts. but the soccer specific stadium and the housing, hotel, school at Willets Point that came with it was voted on and approved 2 week ago by the city. Whatever nugget the OP heard is wrong.

[Mogglez]

3 hours ago, Lizard King said:

Now i understand why we don’t see you in the mafia forum 

I have have been trying to figure out how that game works since my first day here 😂😂

[Mogglez]

4 minutes ago, Morrissey said:

i'm not gonna bother reading all these posts. but the soccer specific stadium and the housing, hotel, school at Willets Point that came with it was voted on and approved 2 week ago by the city. Whatever nugget the OP heard is wrong.

I’m well aware of this.

There’s no reason the stadium can’t be expanded upon, which is what was relayed to me.

I still think the Jets get what they want out of NJ, but it’s definitely going to be talked about more when the deadline to opt out approaches.

[Morrissey]

1 minute ago, Mogglez said:

I’m well aware of this.

There’s no reason the stadium can’t be expanded upon, which is what was relayed to me.

I still think the Jets get what they want out of NJ, but it’s definitely going to be talked about more when the deadline to opt out approaches.

if the plans change, they have to start all over. that's not happening

[Morrissey]

Going from 25,000 soccer specific stadium to an 80,000 stadium that can host NFL games is not a small easy fix. The plot of land would have to nearly double and would eat into the housing, the school, the hotel. All of which was required to get NYC council to approve in the first place.

Grounds being broke for the soccer stadium in the fall once the site is done being cleared.

[Rich Thornburgh]

28 minutes ago, Morrissey said:

i'm not gonna bother reading all these posts. but the soccer specific stadium and the housing, hotel, school at Willets Point that came with it was voted on and approved 2 week ago by the city. Whatever nugget the OP heard is wrong.

[RJIII]

On 4/26/2024 at 5:08 PM, Green Ghost said:

Cohen has big plans/ dreams for that area, but a football stadium being built there? C’mon. That’s not happening in this economy.

Imagine being the political hack trying to sell that idea to taxpayers struggling to pay for a dozen eggs.

Hmmmm, sending 100's of billions to Ukraine and other liberal propaganda or spending it on the NYJ Stadium? Start construction tomorrow. 

 

[Green Ghost]

4 hours ago, Bugg said:

 People are paying no small amount of $; they're your customers. You could treat them better than prison inmates.  One of my sons is an electrician and forgot he had a tool in his coat pocket. he doesn't even drink , not a threat to throw it at anyone. Was treated like a terrorist. Congratulations, security; you have made sure a guy with some disposable income will never darken your stadium ever again. 

Come on…. You’re upset about them not letting him bring his tools into a football stadium?

[y2k8]

6 hours ago, Mogglez said:

I’ve been posting here since I was 13 years old, just sh*t on pretty much every single decision the Jets made over the course of the draft, and can assure you that I am no mole, lmfao.

I think people are glancing over the fact that I said that I personally believe that this is all a leverage play, despite the fact that the source who gave it to me thinks it’s more likely to happen.  I still wanted to share it regardless because:

a.) It’s interesting.

b.) If I’m right and this is just a play for MetLife upgrades, that’s a pretty big deal.

I think the powers at be cave, the Jets stay, and that our giant AC unit in the swamps of New Jersey gets spruced up.  We'll know how serious these talks are and how far the Jets are willing to go next spring.

Everything we predicted would happen with this abomination of a partnership with the Giants has all come to fruition.

I can't help but laugh.

They could have had what they wanted in Queens (after the WSS fell through) but they took the easy, fast path. Jay Cross and his "dream team" wanted to strike a deal and exit stage left after the WSS debacle. Woody was too stupid to realize Met Life Stadium was a short term exit strategy for Cross, Higgins, Shealy, etc and not in the best long-term interest of the franchise. 

 

[Jets and Redskins]

 I suspect in the next five years a new york studium will come up again somewhere. Is it possible they share with mets? If not Queens another NYC spot?

The thing is this getting there own stadium has been talked about for awhile. I still think there something going on here, they had some utube video going up on this today.

[Green Ghost]

5 minutes ago, Jets and Redskins said:

 I suspect in the next five years a new york studium will come up again somewhere. Is it possible they share with mets? If not Queens another NYC spot?

The hits just keep coming with this thread.

[mfmartin]

Well much easier to build a stadium in Queens vs Manhattan. Plus you have Steve Cohen. He's trying to develop that area of Flushing build a casino etc which could be a big money enterprise. Not sure if Woody would sell team to Cohen but he could get a big money offer from him. 

Cohen has stated he has no interest in the NFL due to the concussion stuff.


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[Rangers9]

I have no prob with teams sharing a stadium. It makes sense. There's nothing wrong with MetLife. They can make it green for a Jets game and blue for Gis. 

[Maxman]

8 hours ago, Mogglez said:

I’ve been posting here since I was 13 years old, just sh*t on pretty much every single decision the Jets made over the course of the draft, and can assure you that I am no mole, lmfao.

I think people are glancing over the fact that I said that I personally believe that this is all a leverage play, despite the fact that the source who gave it to me thinks it’s more likely to happen.  I still wanted to share it regardless because:

a.) It’s interesting.

b.) If I’m right and this is just a play for MetLife upgrades, that’s a pretty big deal.

I think the powers at be cave, the Jets stay, and that our giant AC unit in the swamps of New Jersey gets spruced up.  We'll know how serious these talks are and how far the Jets are willing to go next spring.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT A MOLE WOULD SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Maxman]

1 hour ago, RJIII said:

Hmmmm, sending 100's of billions to Ukraine and other liberal propaganda or spending it on the NYJ Stadium? Start construction tomorrow. 

 

This is bannable. You know this. Be better.

[Maxman]

2 hours ago, adb280z said:

What stadium allows fans to bring in tools? 

There are a few:

Craftsman Stadium

Black and Decker Dome

Bosch Field

[Maxman]

8 hours ago, Mogglez said:

I’ve been posting here since I was 13 years old, just sh*t on pretty much every single decision the Jets made over the course of the draft, and can assure you that I am no mole, lmfao.

I think people are glancing over the fact that I said that I personally believe that this is all a leverage play, despite the fact that the source who gave it to me thinks it’s more likely to happen.  I still wanted to share it regardless because:

a.) It’s interesting.

b.) If I’m right and this is just a play for MetLife upgrades, that’s a pretty big deal.

I think the powers at be cave, the Jets stay, and that our giant AC unit in the swamps of New Jersey gets spruced up.  We'll know how serious these talks are and how far the Jets are willing to go next spring.

Personally I think they will want a bigger slice of the non football money. Kind of others are going after. Venues to make money on Friday night, Saturday night. They see all this tailgating and they know they are losing money. There is nothing but land in the area. I see expansion like this happening with them staying put.

[Dcat]

2 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Tbh if you’re a jets fan in jersey Queens might be easier.  You gotta drive to the game, pay for parking, tolls, gas and it takes forever to get out of the meadowlands after the game

If the games are in queens all you gotta do is take the bus or nj transit train to midtown and then take the 7 train to Mets Willets Point and it goes direct nonstop during games

0 stress and cheaper 

 

we park in K.  5 minute walk from stadium. 5 minutes or less to get to rte 3 West past the Giants ugly building. Anyone who needs route 3 (East or West, doesn't matter) knows that you park in G, J, K and exit that way.

[shevys]

2 hours ago, jetsfan56 said:

Last time I parked there every car on the street had at least 1 window broken including the prybar dent in my roof and sunroof glass all over the interior. I figured it was retaliation for not paying to park in one of those “protected” little parking lots all around.


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Wasn’t much better in the 70s and 80s. Hence, the Chevy Caprice Classic beater rolling into action on game day. People probably already thought it was junked!

[Mogglez]

12 minutes ago, Maxman said:

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT A MOLE WOULD SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8 minutes ago, Maxman said:

Personally I think they will want a bigger slice of the non football money. Kind of others are going after. Venues to make money on Friday night, Saturday night. They see all this tailgating and they know they are losing money. There is nothing but land in the area. I see expansion like this happening with them staying put.

That’s another factor I didn’t even think of.  One way or another, yeah, I think they’ll get something out of a threat.

[Maxman]

Just now, Mogglez said:

That’s another factor I didn’t even think of.  One way or another, yeah, I think they’ll get something out of a threat.

Did you see your shadow? How many days until training camp? lol.

So many stadiums have cool things around there. Woody loves the tailgating, I just think he wants to make money on it and it has to burn them up that people are buying stuff at Shop Rite instead.

[JetsfaninNorthHollywood]

5 hours ago, Dcat said:

The NY Jets just reserved the moving vans.  Let's go.  This is going to be so exciting. 

 

What's the over/under on the # of useless threads on this before the leverage is applied to get what they want from the NY Giants and the NJSEA, who are the Gestapo it seems.

I see your Moishe's. 

 

[TuscanyTile2]

On 4/26/2024 at 5:32 PM, Mogglez said:

I’m not going to go into details about who what where and when and why because of obvious reasons, but I received a very awesome non-draft tidbit last night regarding the Jets future in New Jersey:

It’s incredibly early, but there have been preliminary talks re: moving the Jets to Queens.  Steve Cohen and the NYCFC are heavily involved.  The stadium they are building without the Jets being involved would be around 1.5 billion.  You’re probably looking at 3 billion with the Jets partnered in.

I wouldn’t lose any sh*t about it yet, but the Jets are sick tired of dealing with the Maras.  Say what you will about Johnson, but the guy basically wants everything that the players (as well as the fans) have asked for, which is a grass field and retractable roof.  Every single proposal gets shot down by the Giants side of things.  My gut feeling/sense is that another reason they have engaged in the aforementioned talks is to use it as leverage to get what they want from NJ and the Maras in terms of upgrades.  I think they’ll (NYG and NJSEA) cave; but this is certainly something to monitor as next year is the deadline for the Jets to get out.

 

 

[Mogglez]

28 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

 

 

 

[HighPitch]

8 hours ago, Dunnie said:

Pop quiz .. how long has the team resided in NJ vs NY ?

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What difference does that make? ITime to come home….. I hope someone creates a Hudson river ferry that connects your boonton to queens …. You know … so you can visit the queens jets

[Maxman]

41 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

 

Yeah someone sent this to me. He used your screen print and didn't credit anything here. We are reaching out to him, that isn't cool.

[Maxman]

31 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

What difference does that make? ITime to come home….. I hope someone creates a Hudson river ferry that connects your boonton to queens …. You know … so you can visit the queens jets

You are in Florida, you don't get a vote in this debate. 

[Green Ghost]

9 hours ago, mfmartin said:

 

My apologies I was confused


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Looking back at my post, I can see how you (and @Jet Nut) were. I was referring to State Senator yabbadabbadoo or whatever his name is.