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Very early, very non-concrete nugget: the Jets have had talks about moving to Queens.

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Mogglez
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I’m not going to go into details about who what where and when and why because of obvious reasons, but I received a very awesome non-draft tidbit last night regarding the Jets future in New Jersey:

BigRy56
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The fight is just beginning for this!!! The Jets have a real chance to correct this MetLife disaster. The heart of the fanbase is Queens and Long Island. Getting to MetLife is a nightmare and put

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Should also note that the biggest pusher for this is Steve Cohen himself.  He wants to light Queens up as a destination for people/tourists.

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They can’t pay their lease obligations for 3 years?  This can’t be negotiated?  


Maybe but they put it this in the original contract for a reason. The Jets would also lose out on parking revenue and would have to pay to play there. The much more obvious play would opt out in 2030.


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20 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Guessing it would be here. Cohen has talked about wiping out all the chop shops and sh*t from the area and turning it into an entertainment destination. IIRC, this was an option for the Jets at the time of the West Side Stadium fiasco, but Woody and Jay Cross turned their nose up at it. CitiField is an awesome venue. Hopefully, they let Cohen drive the bus on this project if it came to be. 
 

 

My father had an old beater car we used to take into the city for games at Shea back in the day. We always parked near those chop shops because my old man refused to pay for parking at the stadium. I hadn’t thought about that in years…wow. 

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29 minutes ago, mfmartin said:

 


Maybe but they put it this in the original contract for a reason. The Jets would also lose out on parking revenue and would have to pay to play there. The much more obvious play would opt out in 2030.


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Why would they lose on parking if they’re making lease payments on the land and maintenance? 

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2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Otoh, a football stadium costs over a billion dollars (maybe several billion) for only 8-9 regular season home games, and maybe 2 preseason and up to 2 post-season games.  Is it really worth it?

If it were football only.  If it’s sharing the facility with a major soccer team and if it is used for other things like concerts and exhibitions then maybe it can make some sense.  Gillette has all those high end stores as part of the whole facility.  Imagine if this new jets stadium had a roof and was four season?  I know it would cost a small fortune given it being in New York.  Funny how the state was able to pony up for hochuls new bills stadium.

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I'm a Flushing born Jet fan that some how ended up in NJ, but even with Met Life closer to me this seems like it would be a dream come true for the franchise. Grass and retractable roof...

Would immediately become a major concert destination in off-season too. 

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22 hours ago, BigRy56 said:

The heart of the fanbase is Queens and Long Island. Getting to MetLife is a nightmare and putting the field on our actual home turf would be a weekly madhouse.

These two sentences are laughable.  It's not 1975 anymore.  The Jets fanbase is spread a lot farther than Queens.  It feels like most people on this message board aren't even from NY/NJ/CT.  The Jets and Giants are both very well rooted in NJ.

And holy crap --- "Getting to MetLife is a nightmare" in a thread about moving the team to QUEENS is enough of an irony overload to crash this site's server again.

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1 hour ago, rangerous said:

If it were football only.  If it’s sharing the facility with a major soccer team and if it is used for other things like concerts and exhibitions then maybe it can make some sense.  Gillette has all those high end stores as part of the whole facility.  Imagine if this new jets stadium had a roof and was four season?  I know it would cost a small fortune given it being in New York.  Funny how the state was able to pony up for hochuls new bills stadium.

See here is the million dollar question

who is oaying for it?

and for those who criticize psl’s and maybe rightfully so how much is a lower level seat say around the 10 yard line or so in a new stadium?

25k psl? If it happens it happens but I just don’t see it

 

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3 hours ago, Trotter said:

See here is the million dollar question

who is oaying for it?

and for those who criticize psl’s and maybe rightfully so how much is a lower level seat say around the 10 yard line or so in a new stadium?

25k psl? If it happens it happens but I just don’t see it

 

Very good questions. 

You're not going to be able to sell psls in the new stadium after this disaster.

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Total wildcard; MetLife is far and away the crappiest "new stadium" in the NFL. It's a dump. what's to stop both teams from using the threat of moving to NYC, to get some real improvements? 

Also,  NY pols, all collectively awful, are perpetually of 2 divergent minds. Build nothing, nowhere, at any time. Or throw billions to build a boondoggle under the (always provably false) pretense it will spur economic activity. Like the Bills new stadium, for example. Not crazy to think the latter group could prevail to make this happen.

Cynicism abounds in a state that sold a lottery as "for the children" to improve education. And then threw lottery cash into the general fund without a 2nd thought. As they're now selling the  casino gambling scheme with the same pitch. While completely ignoring casinos in the northeast are ridiculously oversaturated. Anything for a new revenue/bribery stream. 

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Why would they lose on parking if they’re making lease payments on the land and maintenance? 


If they opt out, they no longer have a lease. The original terms were put in there for a reason. The more likely scenario would be the Jets build the stadium and opt out in 2029 for a stadium opening in 2030 which the OP didn’t report which makes me think this is fantasy land.


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1 hour ago, mfmartin said:

 


If they opt out, they no longer have a lease. The original terms were put in there for a reason. The more likely scenario would be the Jets build the stadium and opt out in 2029 for a stadium opening in 2030 which the OP didn’t report which makes me think this is fantasy land.


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You know, offering to make lease payments the 3 years after they make their plans known probably aren’t getting turned down.  This really isn’t a concern, they’ll extend the deal to make it work.  I’m the OP’s father and got the scoop the same night he did.  The source is far from fantasy land and people wouldn’t be so sure if they knew the source.  

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1 hour ago, Green Ghost said:

Oh jeez.
Was this clown’s comment the impetus for this thread? 


That 70S Show Lol GIF by Peacock

Didn’t he read your post telling all it had not chance of happening?  Guess as funny as this thread would be to be his impetus, yours didn’t move the needle the other way.  
😂
 

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21 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

You know, offering to make lease payments the 3 years after they make their plans known probably aren’t getting turned down.  This really isn’t a concern, they’ll extend the deal to make it work.  I’m the OP’s father and got the scoop the same night he did.  The source is far from fantasy land and people wouldn’t be so sure if they knew the source.  

I love how these guys are like “New York City is the most corrupt, mismanaged place in the world and all of its politicians are criminals” while simultaneously being like “Hmm, this multibillion dollar cash cow construction project will be FORBIDDEN because of some trivial piece of legalese in a contract signed 25 years ago.” 

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2 hours ago, ZachStepdad said:

I’m for staying at MetLife for now 20-25 min drive lmao

Me too lol. 35 - 40 but if they leave that will be it for us. The NJ fan base is not looking for a bigger commute.

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7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I love how these guys are like “New York City is the most corrupt, mismanaged place in the world and all of its politicians are criminals” while simultaneously being like “Hmm, this multibillion dollar cash cow construction project will be FORBIDDEN because of some trivial piece of legalese in a contract signed 25 years ago.” 

The crooks will always jump at the chance to brag about some short term construction jobs (not a small thing in a city that does have a lot of very well-paid union labor, and that's a good thing)  and some limited hospitality jobs at such a stadium. And -above all-said crooked pols getting envelopes filled with nonsequential unmarked US currency.  That's happening with the ongoing casino license nonsense in NYC  and in Buffalo. It's what they live for. Not to be discounted. 

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You know, offering to make lease payments the 3 years after they make their plans known probably aren’t getting turned down.  This really isn’t a concern, they’ll extend the deal to make it work.  I’m the OP’s father and got the scoop the same night he did.  The source is far from fantasy land and people wouldn’t be so sure if they knew the source.  


Fair. I guess we will see. I don’t think it’s happening but that’s my opinion. Once the West Side stadium got shut down, they moved their facility to NJ. I don’t think it goes anywhere.


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Queens is never going to be a thing. Cohen is just trying to hype his fvcked up mess with the Mets and the casino he can’t get built.  Cohen is on record a few years ago stating he had zero interest in the Jets. He is up a creek with the Mets, trying to fix it with the casino, and flushing is a desolate distant dump and it’s simply no more than that.  @Mogglez have you considered renaming yourself to Goebbels?

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13 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Didn’t he read your post telling all it had not chance of happening?  Guess as funny as this thread would be to be his impetus, yours didn’t move the needle the other way.  
😂
 

Everyone in the NY area has posted they’d love to see it happen. No surprise there. I still have a home up on Long Island, I would too.

The more realistic among us know it won’t.

(and let’s not act like NJ would be so quick to accommodate the Jets for 3 years if they did try to move. The Oakland A’s are going to be forced to play 3 years in a minor league ball park while they hope Vegas builds them a stadium).

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