BreeceHallofFame Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago You are supposed to have two elite backs in Hall and Allen You have a revamped talented O Line with multiple accomplished players and higher draft picks You have Aaron Rodgers at QB keeping defenses honest Yet our run game is the worst in the NFL. Can an O Line coach really have that much of a negative impact? This defies everything I think I know about football 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shuler82 Posted 2 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 2 hours ago Play calling also plays a pretty big part 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago If they don’t fix this problem,I predict that the OLine coach gets the axe by the bye week 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago You are supposed to have a good QB but he always commits numerous turnovers against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: You are supposed to have two elite backs in Hall and Allen You have a revamped talented O Line with multiple accomplished players and higher draft picks You have Aaron Rodgers at QB keeping defenses honest Yet our run game is the worst in the NFL. Can an O Line coach really have that much of a negative impact? This defies everything I think I know about football We are supposed to have 1 elite back. We dont really know anything about Braelon Allen yet. This board told me he was unstoppable on short yardage but he did nothing on the 2 carries he had today near the goaline. I have never seen a run game this bad. Im convinced there is a tell that teams have noticed. They are in the backfield on every running play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: You are supposed to have two elite backs in Hall and Allen You have a revamped talented O Line with multiple accomplished players and higher draft picks You have Aaron Rodgers at QB keeping defenses honest Yet our run game is the worst in the NFL. Can an O Line coach really have that much of a negative impact? This defies everything I think I know about football You expected a Joe Douglas OL to be decent ? Haven’t you watched past 4 years ? OL has bunch of has beens who teams let go very easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Guys, this isn't a jets fan who created the thread. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Teams know what's coming that's most of the battle right there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 11 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: You are supposed to have two elite backs in Hall and Allen You have a revamped talented O Line with multiple accomplished players and higher draft picks You have Aaron Rodgers at QB keeping defenses honest Yet our run game is the worst in the NFL. Can an O Line coach really have that much of a negative impact? This defies everything I think I know about football Yeah we'll play calling and design don't help either but our rb is not supposed to be hit behind the line of scrimmage every play or by un blocked players so yes the OL coach matters...the play design and OC more, but the online coach doesn't even had his player able to run his crap system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: You are supposed to have a good QB but he always commits numerous turnovers against us. who Rodgers? he had 1 INT coming into today and that bounced off his WRs hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, BornJetsFan1983 said: Yeah we'll play calling and design don't help either but our rb is not supposed to be hit behind the line of scrimmage every play or by un blocked players so yes the OL coach matters...the play design and OC more, but the online coach doesn't even had his player able to run his crap system. How can a system be so bad that it negates every player on the field? Aren’t most of these systems borrows from tried and true philosophies? It makes no sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, doitny said: who Rodgers? he had 1 INT coming into today and that bounced off his WRs hands. I'm talking about Josh Allen. OP is bills fan masquerading as a Jets fan for some stupid trollish reason. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: I'm talking about Josh Allen. OP is bills fan masquerading as a Jets fan for some stupid trollish reason. I’m not sure who you think I am but you are way off brother. I called Sauce a PI merchant because that is what all of twitter calls him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, BreeceHallofFame said: I’m not sure who you think I am but you are way off brother. I called Sauce a PI merchant because that is what all of twitter calls him. You.... uh, that doesn't help your case here.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, TBJ said: Teams know what's coming that's most of the battle right there. Big reason. Plus Hackett wants to ‘establish’ things rather than exploit them. This is why the jets never score in the 1st quarter. They use their first 3 drives to run their preferred plays regardless of what the defense is doing. At some point they’ll all have to answer for this. If they don’t beat buffalo everyone will be calling for the coaches’ heads. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonman 88 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago this is what happens when you dont play starters in the preseason that havent ever played with each other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: I’m not sure who you think I am but you are way off brother. I called Sauce a PI merchant because that is what all of twitter calls him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Jet_Engine1 said: You.... uh, that doesn't help your case here.. I’m not making a case just helping that guy stop wasting his time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, toonman 88 said: this is what happens when you dont play starters in the preseason that havent ever played with each other So you’re saying not having those three drives in the pre season is hurting us into week 6? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 40 minutes ago, shuler82 said: Play calling also plays a pretty big part No guesswork with formations, nor personnel nor motion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 37 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said: If they don’t fix this problem,I predict that the OLine coach gets the axe by the bye week Bring in Damien woody to coach the OL. It honestly can’t get any worse and it’s not like years past where we are down to the 3rd or 4th stingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 47 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: You are supposed to have two elite backs in Hall and Allen You have a revamped talented O Line with multiple accomplished players and higher draft picks You have Aaron Rodgers at QB keeping defenses honest Yet our run game is the worst in the NFL. Can an O Line coach really have that much of a negative impact? This defies everything I think I know about football google a picture of robert saleh. stare at it until you start hating the stupid look on his dumb bald face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold's Forehead Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago You look across the entire league with teams playing rookies, depth guys due to injuries, late round picks and see them move and open holes in the running game every game. Yet we struggle to get the RB back to the LoS every run play. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Big problem with the offense is that Rodgers is calling most of it at the line, which limits the variety of run plays that get called. He gets up to the line, gets a look that seems favorable to the run, then has maybe two or three run plays he can check to. The defense knows where those plays are run to within five minutes of film study. Compare that to the way a Shanahan system works, where it looks like no run set is called twice on the same drive. There’s no motion to shift people, no creativity in the blocking scheme, and it leaves Breece praying that John Simpson can root out two DL at the same time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Big problem with the offense is that Rodgers is calling most of it at the line, which limits the variety of run plays that get called. He gets up to the line, gets a look that seems favorable to the run, then has maybe two or three run plays he can check to. The defense knows where those plays are run to within five minutes of film study. Compare that to the way a Shanahan system works, where it looks like no run set is called twice on the same drive. There’s no motion to shift people, no creativity in the blocking scheme, and it leaves Breece praying that John Simpson can root out two DL at the same time. That is simply not true lol Case in point, the two runs on 3 & 4 down today. He did not call those plays nor did he pick the personnel for that play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, bgivs21 said: That is simply not true lol Case in point, the two runs on 3 & 4 down today. He did not call those plays nor did he pick the personnel for that play that 3rd down run was ridiculously stupid. instead of just running straight downhill between the tackles they have some weird trap play where the 3rd string TE ends up being the point of failure. Like, WTF are you doing? You have a 20 year old power back. Shove him down their throats there bros. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Line sucks. Offense is archaic. But yeah the idea wasn’t to have Rodgers throw the ball 60 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago This is probably the worst running game I've ever seen. Honestly, not hyperbole. More often than not guys are getting hit in the backfield. I've never seen anything like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Line sucks. Offense is archaic. But yeah the idea wasn’t to have Rodgers throw the ball 60 times. Rodgers is the only qb on the planet that can throw the ball 54 times and barely break 200 yards. His dinking snd dunking is pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Remember when we ran LaFleur out of town because Zach Wilson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Keith Carter probably wants things done “his way” But carry on Nothing to see here The head coach says we can “just keep doing what we’re doing, and we’ll be fine” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T0mShane Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 18 minutes ago, bgivs21 said: That is simply not true lol Case in point, the two runs on 3 & 4 down today. He did not call those plays nor did he pick the personnel for that play Thanks for reminding me. Another reason the run game sucks is because Rodgers doesn’t like to throw over the middle, so defenses feel free to cheat up to the LOS at the snap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago We got rid of our best run blocking offensive lineman Mekhi Becton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, BreeceHallofFame said: I’m not making a case just helping that guy stop wasting his time. Bills fan, huh? I kinda figured. Broken any tables lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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