Gastineau Lives Posted yesterday at 01:46 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:46 PM How does he have 27 rushing yards the last two weeks but 34 after contact? KEEP BREECE OUT OF YOUR FILTHY MOUTHS 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted yesterday at 01:47 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:47 PM Keith Carter broke the run game. Breece is the same guy. edit: I take this back. KC was hired prior to the 2023 season. for some reason I thought it was prior to 2024. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted yesterday at 01:50 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:50 PM He's not terrible. Never was. He's just another victim of the current blame-shift we're seeing with the Jets. Rodgers, the O-line, Hackett (especially) and JD get free passes, Hall and Wilson, our two best players, get sh*t on. One, because everyone has a hardon for Devonte Adams. The other because Allen is a solid pairing RB whose style has been better behind our trash-tier O-line. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted yesterday at 02:07 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:07 PM Breece is my favorite player on the team (the only current Jet I have a Jersey for, btw). But he hasn’t been great this year. Nothing a momentum-shifting 70 yard TD run on Monday night can’t cure . . . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted yesterday at 02:24 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:24 PM I've been saying this all season long. Hall has not looked right the entire season, he has lacked that extra gear, that burst of speed that he ran with his first 2 seasons. I noticed it right away, in the San Francisco game and if anything it's gotten more noticeable over the last couple of games. Carter may take some responsibility for the run-blocking scheme, but Hall has looked slower, there is no 2 ways about it. I don't know if he has some nagging injury, but he clearly is not the same runner that he's been, the last 2 seasons. Braelon Allen should be getting an increased workload until Halls gets his legs back underneath him again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JiFtheOracle Posted yesterday at 02:34 PM Popular Post Share Posted yesterday at 02:34 PM He literally started the season by fumbling the ball in San Fran territory and handing them free 3 points. He's been terrible in the pass game too. He's been, very very bad this season but obviously the OL/TE's/blocking scheme is not doing him any favors. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted yesterday at 03:27 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:27 PM he is tip toeing through holes imo. #0 is hitting the hole full speed and falling on his face 9 yards down the field. better than thomas jones back in the day with 4 yards and a cloud of dust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BreeceHallofFame Posted yesterday at 03:47 PM Popular Post Share Posted yesterday at 03:47 PM Breece hall is best utilized when he gets 10-15 carries a game designed to be game breakers. We are running him off run checks into a wall hoping to get 4 yards. It’s not his game. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted yesterday at 05:30 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:30 PM 2 hours ago, JiFtheOracle said: He literally started the season by fumbling the ball in San Fran territory and handing them free 3 points. He's been terrible in the pass game too. He's been, very very bad this season but obviously the OL/TE's/blocking scheme is not doing him any favors. Terrible in the pass game because Rodgers is awful. Terrible in the run game because the OL hasn’t been good and they’re running on predictable running downs. They should be using the pass game to open up the running lanes but they’re can’t do that because Rodgers is bad and they constantly put themselves into 3rd and unmanageable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted yesterday at 05:33 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:33 PM 3 hours ago, ARodJetsFan said: Hall has not looked right the entire season, he has lacked that extra gear, that burst of speed that he ran with his first 2 seasons. Jets fans and the fantasy community are in denial on the amount of tread left on halls tires 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted yesterday at 05:38 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:38 PM 7 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Terrible in the pass game because Rodgers is awful. Terrible in the run game because the OL hasn’t been good and they’re running on predictable running downs. They should be using the pass game to open up the running lanes but they’re can’t do that because Rodgers is bad and they constantly put themselves into 3rd and unmanageable. All this is true and so is, Breece Hall has been very bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted yesterday at 05:45 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:45 PM 12 minutes ago, bitonti said: Jets fans and the fantasy community are in denial on the amount of tread left on halls tires @bitonti Hall has definitely looked like he's lost a step this season, that extra gear he had in year 1 & year 2 has been missing. That said, if you're implying that Hall is already nearing the end of his NFL career in just his third season, I'd be inclined to disagree with you, particularly since his first season was cut short. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN1979 Posted yesterday at 05:53 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:53 PM The O line was allegedly upgraded in the offseason, but honestly I Blame Hacket for the most predictable play calling in the NFL. In the New England Game (granted New England) Rogers came out passing first three plays and then went to the run. Rogers needs to hit his tight ends quick off the snap! Conklin is a solid TE and can barrel through a D for Yards after the catch!. It is very obvious that Rogers and Wilson are not on the same page, whos fault not sure yet! Do i think Bringing in Adams will cure all the problems....no, but will take heat off Wilson and Smith. But like everyone said, if we can't run the ball effectively we are gonna be in for a long season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted yesterday at 05:56 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:56 PM Maybe he’s just a slow starter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted yesterday at 06:01 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:01 PM I will always and forever believe that it is all up front. If they can't block, which they have not been able to, you can't run and you certainly cannot throw downfield which they haven't either. It's all scheme and OL effort. We had a HC that had absolutely no idea how to scheme his players strengths to the opponents' weaknesses, and an OC that looks like Sargent Englehart cheerleading in "The Longest Yard" with Brucie's "black guys". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted yesterday at 08:17 PM Share Posted yesterday at 08:17 PM 2 hours ago, ARodJetsFan said: @bitonti Hall has definitely looked like he's lost a step this season, that extra gear he had in year 1 & year 2 has been missing. That said, if you're implying that Hall is already nearing the end of his NFL career in just his third season, I'd be inclined to disagree with you, particularly since his first season was cut short. at Iowa State Breece Hall had 800 touches over 36 games (3 years) that's 23 touches a game in three years he's had another 484 NFL touches and a pretty bad injury the average career length of all NFL players is less than 3 seasons. RBs is the lowest of those, less than 2.5 I'm not saying Breece is "washed" like Aaron is but there's a reason why they drafted 2 RBs in the mid rounds and there's also a reason why most teams won't use a high second on a player like Breece Hall the candle that burns brightly etc. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted yesterday at 08:33 PM Share Posted yesterday at 08:33 PM 6 hours ago, Warfish said: He's not terrible. Never was. He's just another victim of the current blame-shift we're seeing with the Jets. Rodgers, the O-line, Hackett (especially) and JD get free passes, Hall and Wilson, our two best players, get sh*t on. One, because everyone has a hardon for Devonte Adams. The other because Allen is a solid pairing RB whose style has been better behind our trash-tier O-line. Rodgers is getting a free pass ???? Are you serious ? he made it clear himslef he didnt play well and left plays on the field. In both games (Den/Minn) I personally can point to Rodgers and say Hey Aaron no matter how bad the team played (and yes that obviously contributed) you had the ball in your hands to win those games an you didn't get it done. Rodgers is no doubt one of the greatest players and QB's in NFL history but no matter how good you are you can't constantly be in those situations vs good defneses and win consistently especially when you are getting used to an entirely new situation. If you remember as should everyone Brady didnt start off too good in Tampa and that SB team did not get rolling until the second half of the season so as Jets fans we just need to be patient they will figure this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted yesterday at 08:38 PM Share Posted yesterday at 08:38 PM 22 minutes ago, bitonti said: at Iowa State Breece Hall had 800 touches over 36 games (3 years) that's 23 touches a game in three years he's had another 484 NFL touches and a pretty bad injury the average career length of all NFL players is less than 3 seasons. RBs is the lowest of those, less than 2.5 I'm not saying Breece is "washed" like Aaron is but there's a reason why they drafted 2 RBs in the mid rounds and there's also a reason why most teams won't use a high second on a player like Breece Hall the candle that burns brightly etc. that average career length stuff is interested but also needs to be understood in context. Beside WRs, teams churn through the most RBs at skill positions in camp and taking UDFA fliers on. That grossly distorts that average. My guess is RBs taken in first 2 rounds average 6 years at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted yesterday at 09:04 PM Share Posted yesterday at 09:04 PM It seems like I recall that the team changed blocking schemes this year, I’m not sure if I am correct or not but if I am couldn’t that be part of the running game issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted yesterday at 09:27 PM Share Posted yesterday at 09:27 PM The 3 TEs are in the bottom 10 TEs in the league for run blocking. Both OTs are getting whipped. The QB checks to the same 2 runs. The play calling is predictable and there is little to no motion, eye candy or misdirection. yeah Hall sucks lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted yesterday at 09:53 PM Share Posted yesterday at 09:53 PM He's great.. We're not using him right. He almost needs some wildcat plays. Screens. Sweeps. Running him like a power back is dumb. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 19 hours ago, ARodJetsFan said: I've been saying this all season long. Hall has not looked right the entire season, he has lacked that extra gear, that burst of speed that he ran with his first 2 seasons. I noticed it right away, in the San Francisco game and if anything it's gotten more noticeable over the last couple of games. Carter may take some responsibility for the run-blocking scheme, but Hall has looked slower, there is no 2 ways about it. I don't know if he has some nagging injury, but he clearly is not the same runner that he's been, the last 2 seasons. Braelon Allen should be getting an increased workload until Halls gets his legs back underneath him again. In the first few weeks of the season they said Hall had a quad injury. That likely is lingering on and preventing his acceleration/burst. Many players these days are reluctant to be missing time when your backup is good enough to take your job after playing just a few games. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago We know Breece is a Beast. There’s been no push from the IL and he seems to not love the mbs compared to the ZBS. The scheme likely doesn’t change so something has to give. The OL and him have talent. They’re just not playing up to the levels they should. And now that’s on Ulbrich to hold guys accountable. Moses might be back Monday which should help bc Olu hasn’t been good and people in general have ignored that. And the TE blocking has been embrassing. So I’d like to see a change in this. Hooefully Moses is back at RT. Instead of using our TEs who can’t block maybe bring in a 6th OLinemannmore. Use Ruckert as a FB more. Are personnel changes. But at the end of the day. This whole offense needs to be challenged and quite frankly called out and embarrassed to where they get a chip on their shoulder. Read out all our offensive numbers to them, miss blocks, sacks allowed, pressure rate, ypc, drops, inaccurate passes, INTs. Make them ACCOUNTABLE!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago I'm not worried about Breece at all. The OL has been the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted 10 hours ago Author Share Posted 10 hours ago 20 hours ago, whodeawhodat said: holes You see these things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 18 hours ago, jgb said: My guess is RBs taken in first 2 rounds average 6 years at least. anecdotally Zeke Elliott went 1.4 and has been in the league 9 seasons but he hasn't made a Pro Bowl for 5 years (when he was 24) yes those guys last longer but at a certain point they all go from exceptional to only good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago He’s been horrible this year and worse lazy. No effort was made to chase Andrew Van Ginkel. Start the young gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 55 minutes ago, bitonti said: anecdotally Zeke Elliott went 1.4 and has been in the league 9 seasons but he hasn't made a Pro Bowl for 5 years (when he was 24) yes those guys last longer but at a certain point they all go from exceptional to only good Saleh was the first HC hire during Woody’s reign who had a better winning percentage than his predecessor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxta_p Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Its called being a 1 hit wonder. When you get to my age you see it all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago If he’s healthy he’s going to be really good. I expect the O without Hackett to run the ball effectively. Pulling a sand wedge out of the bag for Rodgers on his day off wasn’t working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, bitonti said: anecdotally Zeke Elliott went 1.4 and has been in the league 9 seasons but he hasn't made a Pro Bowl for 5 years (when he was 24) yes those guys last longer but at a certain point they all go from exceptional to only good Agree just pointing out the 2.5 year average career figure has limitations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Maxta_p said: Its called being a 1 hit wonder. When you get to my age you see it all the time. Bet you $200 in a charity bet Breece exceeds 1,400 yards from scrimmage this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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