SenorGato Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 And he's just playing hard or sumthin! Tss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 LOLOLOLOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I can get the concept of the crap for crap trade given you eventually get to the point where you feel like the player becomes a detriment to your team, even as just a backup. But as a good number of you have pointed out, the significant increase in salary is a bit baffling. You'd hope maybe the deal was contingent on a new contract agreement, but I can't see any reason Smith would do that given his current amount was fully guaranteed. The only guess I could make is the Jets see it as worthwhile as Hunter still has three years left on his deal, while Smith will be off the books, penalty-free, at the end of this year. We know the Jets future cap situation is a sh*t-show, so the only thing I can think is the idea is to give up some space this year in return for open space next year. But who the hell knows, it could also be that the trade really is as stupid as it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 fwiw...mayock had him rated highly...maybe he should be our GM http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story?id=09000d5d80dff358&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 So, am I hearing correctly? If Smith plays 31% of snaps his contract ($12m in 2013) voids? Why would a big-money contract void if he meets playing time incentives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 The only guess I could make is the Jets see it as worthwhile as Hunter still has three years left on his deal, while Smith will be off the books, penalty-free, at the end of this year. There's your explanation right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 So, am I hearing correctly? If Smith plays 31% of snaps his contract ($12m in 2013) voids? Why would a big-money contract void if he meets playing time incentives? A good agent? An actually bad FO/GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 This guy called him "...the worst run blocking offensive lineman that I have ever seen being considered as a top ten pick." Does anyone watch film? http://thehuddlereport.com/Free/archive/2009DRAFT/PlayerProfiles/Jason.Smith.htm lulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 So, uh. Vrentas reporting that Smith isn't being brought in to compete with Howard, rather it's to play jumbo TE. lololololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPPT1974 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Hope that Jason will be awesome for the Jets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knix Tix Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Thanks Shotty...you'll still calling confusing plays. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 So, am I hearing correctly? If Smith plays 31% of snaps his contract ($12m in 2013) voids? Why would a big-money contract void if he meets playing time incentives? My understanding was it voids if he plays less than that percentage of snaps. Is that not the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 My understanding was it voids if he plays less than that percentage of snaps. Is that not the case? It's weird: Mehta: Smith due $12M in 2013, but contract voids if he plays 31%or more of snaps in '12 & if he's on roster 5 days before start of '13 league yr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 It's weird: Mehta: Smith due $12M in 2013, but contract voids if he plays 31%or more of snaps in '12 & if he's on roster 5 days before start of '13 league yr I don't know why you worry. Its not like Mr T ever had a trade for a QB voided because he misread a contract or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Who is Jason Smith? Is that really his name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 We got hosed. We should have at least got Mulligan back if we where trading our blocking TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Rich Cimini @RichCimini Last straw? Unruly fans got on Hunter late in last night's game; he was restrained by Ducasse, according to source. #Jets Bad fans, huh? They're probably all JetNation posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 We got hosed. We should have at least got Mulligan back if we where trading our blocking TE Noob, we have Slauson to get us penalties now. Therefore, Mulligan is obsolete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Rich Cimini @RichCimini Last straw? Unruly fans got on Hunter late in last night's game; he was restrained by Ducasse, according to source. #Jets It's a good thing Hunter wasn't the one trying to restrain someone else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 It's a good thing Hunter wasn't the one trying to restrain someone else... Did you read it?? Ducasse held him back. VLAD DUCASSE!!! Clearly Hunter didn't really wanna do anything about those pesky unruly fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Evan Silva @evansilva Jason Smith trade is humorous. #Jets are gonna need to get a GM who knows something about football. No chance he's actually seen Smith play. Evan Silva @evansilva Both Hunter & Smith's salaries are guaranteed. $4M for Smith. $2.45M for Hunter. So #Rams save $1.55M in trade. Deal makes sense for STL. Ugh. Couldn't agree with either of these tweets more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 lol. We were all chatting about Forte, Percy Harvin, even Peyton Manning, not too long ago. We were close, Jason Smith baaaaabyyyyy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 1. Guarantee contract of terrible player 2. Trade player for equally terrible player with worse contract 3. ??? 4. Profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Any chance getting away from Schittenhiemer fixes Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 This move can be easily summed up by the following: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 This move can be easily summed up by the following: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Please spend the 1:09 to watch this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 So, am I hearing correctly? If Smith plays 31% of snaps his contract ($12m in 2013) voids? Why would a big-money contract void if he meets playing time incentives? Its common in the old rookie deals. Their goal is to get to free agency as fast as possible. Teams usually need the year for proration of bonuses and in some cases buy back that void in the option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Wayne Hunter had no dead money either so that wasnt the reason for the trade. St Louis did it to save salary. I guess the Jets think Rex can salvage anyone so its worth the extra 1.5 million dollar gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Wayne Hunter had no dead money either so that wasnt the reason for the trade. St Louis did it to save salary. I guess the Jets think Rex can salvage anyone so its worth the extra 1.5 million dollar gamble. Mike Tannenbaum has never met a contract so bad he couldn't throw more bad money after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Wayne Hunter had no dead money either so that wasnt the reason for the trade. St Louis did it to save salary. I guess the Jets think Rex can salvage anyone so its worth the extra 1.5 million dollar gamble. go figure. I can only imagine the Jets might've planned on outright cutting Hunter and then signing someone else, so they figure pulling this trade would net out to be about the same.... or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 This interview makes me feel that though this kid has struggle, he wants it. I liked his comment about "competition". Hope Rex can make something of this dude. If we can add some more legit depth to that O-line we'll be a problem come playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Picking up scrap heap fallen top talents is what good teams often do...except the Steelers, who seem to be a machine. Easier to find a role if you have some physical talent to be coached up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 It's a cunning plan to allow Gholston to get a sack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Picking up scrap heap fallen top talents is what good teams often do... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGmbMDnhgrU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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