nj meadowlands Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 9ers get: Darrelle Revis Jets get: 49ers 1st round pick in 2013 Chiefs 2nd round pick in 2013 (from Smith deal) 49ers 3rd round pick in 2014 Mario Manningham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Not even a little, no. Mario Manninghan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 yes. Stockpile picks and get us to save some money keep in mind he wants to get paid a sh*tload and is coming off ACL injury this is better then i would have thought if we could do this deal without manningham (if hes a throw in fine) but id do it without him too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmd71 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Not a fan of Manningham but if the Jets made this trade with the 49ers they would own the following selections in the first two rounds of the 2013 draft: #9 #31 #34 #39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I hate the idea of trading Revis but a 1, 2, and a 3 would be a decent haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Manninghan is the reason I was turned off. Don't they have someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Manninghan is the reason I was turned off. Don't they have someone else? you wouldnt be happy with just the picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I would think so- stockpile three picks and get a WR that can play when healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 Manninghan is the reason I was turned off. Don't they have someone else? I think Manningham would be a decent pickup, but would you be happier with Lamichael James? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 SF now has following picks: Rd 1 = #30 Rd 2 = #34 (from KC), #62 Rd 3 = #77, #94, #98 Rd 4 = #130 Rd 5 = #159, #162 Rd 6 = #179 Rd 7 = #217, #226, #230, #232 What would be considered fair compensation IF we traded Revis. Lets not make this a 'dont trade Revis' thread. Conjecture thread, If SF traded for Revis what would y'all consider fair from picks above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 already started a thread about this BRO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 already started a thread about this BRO! LOL, ya but mine is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 1st, 2nd, Middle 3rd this year. 1st next year (after they win superbowl). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 1st, 2nd, Middle 3rd this year. 1st next year (after they win superbowl). smart Carl. I agree 2104 picks must also be part of any deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I'd rather picks next year, this draft blows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I'd rather picks next year, this draft blows Blows for QBs but with extra picks this year the Jets could, in theory, find a starting OLB, OG, TE, WR and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 round 1, round 2, and lemichael james Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Keep Manningham and make the 2014 third contingent upon Revis being an All-Pro, at which point the third turns into a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Manninghan is the reason I was turned off. Don't they have someone else? Agreed. Leave him out there, I want Kendall Hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I'd rather picks next year, this draft blows agree, 2014 picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 (Positive Factors) Revis was drafted #14 overall. However, we traded up to get Revis. We moved from our first round pick #25, and tossed in a second round pick #59, and a fifth round pick #164 to get him. Since then we have spent 6 years developing him and coaching him into the pro-bowl CB that he is. He is arguably the best CB in the league, and can effectively take away the competition's #1 receiving threat. Based on this alone, his value has increased. That means we should get MORE than a 1st, 2nd, and 5th. ---------------------------------------------------- However, Revis isn't that wide-eyed rookie anymore. His talent has become his/our Achilles heel. (Negative factors): 1. Now that he's Amaaaazing. He wants more money than Wall Street. 2. He has injured his ACL, and nobody knows where he's at in his recovery (facing competition on the field, anyway). 3. He's at the tail-end of his contract, and teams know we can only afford him for another year. This means we have little-medium leverage. 4. Revis still gets a say (kinda) as to where he goes, language in his contract allow him to agree to his next contract before being traded. This means the team we trade him to will have to accommodate his contract demands. ----------------------------------------------------------- That being said, this league likes to look at other deals to make comparative decisions; value is fluid. The fact that Alex Smith just garnered 2-2nd round picks (if he meets playing criteria), means we can get AT LEAST that. I'd be happy with their #1 this year, the KC #2 pick this year, and a conditional pick next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I'd take a whole mess of mid-rounders from this draft and snag SF's 1st rounder next season. Let's the Niners unload a bunch of picks they won't need from this year, and gets us a 1st in a better QB year. I'd do: 2013 # 34 # 94 # 98 # 159 2014 SF 1st rounder Or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 we cant not let revis leave for nothing. So we either trade him now or handicap ourselves to someone eating more cap space then the position merits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 He is arguably the best CB in the league, Anyone arguing it is a dummy. Where it gets interesting is whether he's the best defensive player in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Why would I want SF's #32 pick in 2014? How's that help the Jets land a QB? What QB am I landing with that pick? Hell, what 2014 QB am I looking forward to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Why would I want SF's #32 pick in 2014? How's that help the Jets land a QB? We'll probably be picking in the top 15 or so again. Couple it with the 32nd pick and maybe one more and we can move up to draft just about anyone we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 We'll probably be picking in the top 15 or so again. Couple it with the 32nd pick and maybe one more and we can move up to draft just about anyone we want. Man amongst boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Why would I want SF's #32 pick in 2014? How's that help the Jets land a QB? What QB am I landing with that pick? Hell, what 2014 QB am I looking forward to? Packaging our 1st and SF's 1st is a possibility, no? I mean, for a Franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 SF now has following picks: Rd 1 = #30 Rd 2 = #34 (from KC), #62 Rd 3 = #77, #94, #98 Rd 4 = #130 Rd 5 = #159, #162 Rd 6 = #179 Rd 7 = #217, #226, #230, #232 What would be considered fair compensation IF we traded Revis. Lets not make this a 'dont trade Revis' thread. Conjecture thread, If SF traded for Revis what would y'all consider fair from picks above? Where's Ditka when you really need him? I agree, push picks to 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Blows for QBs but with extra picks this year the Jets could, in theory, find a starting OLB, OG, TE, WR and more. This draft is fairly weak all around. I'm already thinking next season anyway. I'm even sold at this point on going Dion Jordan at 9 who probably needs a year to pack on weight cause I don't care about 2013. I'm hoping it's the year Vlad gets Sanchez turned into the worlds most expensive vegetable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 This draft is fairly weak all around. I'm already thinking next season anyway. I'm even sold at this point on going Dion Jordan at 9 who probably needs a year to pack on weight cause I don't care about 2013. I'm hoping it's the year Vlad gets Sanchez turned into the worlds most expensive vegetable. Classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I don't know that you are going to get the kind of hall everyone on here is asking for. The guy had ACL surgery and expects to be paid like the best in the league and everyone knows we have to get rid of him. I am thinking KC's second rounder in this draft and the lower of the two seconds next year is what we would be looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Why would I want SF's #32 pick in 2014? How's that help the Jets land a QB? What QB am I landing with that pick? Hell, what 2014 QB am I looking forward to? I don't think it's a given that the Revis trade directly equates to a QB being acquired. It may be an indirect relationship. For instance, maybe we trade Revis, and end up with extra picks in rounds 1-3 this year, as well as a condition 2014 pick that can escalate to a 1st rounder. In acquiring all of those picks, it may free us up to trade a 3rd to say Seattle for Matt Flynn. We go into this year with Flynn and Sanchez. Regardless of how they perform, we use the ammunition we have in 2014 to land one of the two major QB prospects for the future of the franchise. Meanwhile, we have an interim QB situation, and we have extra picks this year to address the many areas of need on this roster... and who knows, we could end up with multiple QB options, giving us long-term wealth at that position to trade away for future draft picks and ongoing roster development, which in theory, helps sustain improvement and competitiveness. Would be amazing to find a RB, WR, OLB and shore up some other positions, while also ending up with say Flynn and Bridgewater for 2014 and beyond. Flynn was at one point a highly sought WCO QB, and could represent a great investment for us. Just spit-balling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Just wondering why we'd want Manningham tacked on there? He is coming off a pretty severe knee injury late in the year. His deal is reasonable, but he is only signed through the end of this year. He is also historically dumb. Like 6 on the Wonderlic dumb. (Barely) functional illiterate level. I don't know much about Mornhinweg's system, but I'd assume with all those option routes you need some degree of brain. He'd have been a better fit for the Sparano run, stupid, run offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Just wondering why we'd want Manningham tacked on there? He is coming off a pretty severe knee injury late in the year. His deal is reasonable, but he is only signed through the end of this year. He is also historically dumb. Like 6 on the Wonderlic dumb. (Barely) functional illiterate level. I don't know much about Mornhinweg's system, but I'd assume with all those option routes you need some degree of brain. He'd have been a better fit for the Sparano run, stupid, run offense. lol... run, stupid, run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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