Gastineau Lives Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5136/hakeem-nicks ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on NFL Insiders Monday that the Giants are willing to listen to offers for Hakeem Nicks. This comes directly on the heels of a Jason La Canfora report that "several teams" are preparing offers in an effort to acquire Nicks from the 0-6 Giants. The G-Men can plug Rueben Randle into the X receiver position across from Victor Cruz, and likely not lose much. "They are not shopping him," Schefter said of Nicks, who's in a contract year. "Will they listen to offers? Yes." What do we think? Should we even be buyers this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 For the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Patriots are definitely going to be calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 SIGN THIS BEAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Ill give Coughlin a 6, a 7, and a vat of vasoline for his face when he plays in cold weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Patriots are definitely going to be calling. Patriots, Falcons, Lions, 49ers, Packers (lost Cobb and James Jones) ... all in need of WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Ill give Coughlin a 6, a 7, and a vat of vasoline for his face when he plays in cold weather. Mean LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Seriously doubt we get him though... we need our picks. Personally, I would do all I could to get him if I was Idzik. But knowing his tendencies as a GM a bit more... doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Patriots are definitely going to be calling. I would suspect so. It would be a good trade for everyone. Pats have the QB, need someone to catch the ball. Not sure I would do a deal if I'm Idzik. Going to require a fairly high draft pick for a guy with 1 year on his contract. Jets don't know if they have a QB, and might have to go there again early next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 We need help at the X position desperately. Even if we spend a first on that position this year, it will likely take time for that player to develop. Holmes just isnt reliable enough to count on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'd take cruz in a heart beat, but if this ass gives up on routes on eli, what is he going to do for geno ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 We gave up picks for Ivory when it looks like anyone on this forum could run for mega yardage behind the Saints line. We also should have a ton of comp picks and a very high 3rd for Revis. I dont see why you dont go and try to trade for a WR right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 I have very bad impulse control. I'm all for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 don't even dudes. THey're not ever, ever, ever trading him here even if he's on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 yeah the Giants trading with the Jets Senior Mara would turn over in his grave- Expect him to land in San Fran, Green Bay or New England-ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Who is hurt more often, Nicks or Hill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Waste of a draft pick IMO unless he signs a new deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 I sometimes think that many draft picks are wastes of a draft pick. But I'm not very smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Never healthy and he thinks he's worth $10 mil per. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 If in fact Nicks is available Idzik must inquire. Nicks improves this WR corps immediately and helps develop Geno Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 It would actually make sense for the Jets to trade for him, so therefore, I doubt they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'd give up a 5th if he somehow decides to be healthy, actually participates in practice and only wants $7 million or less per year. He's worth between $7-8 if he can actually stay healthy, to me he's the more talented of the Giants' receivers, but the fact of the matter is he doesn't practice and he's always hurt. The only way you give up a 5th is if you know you can sign him long-term and the only way I sign him long term is if he's willing to take Cruz, Austin type money at 7-8 a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'd give up a 5th if he somehow decides to be healthy, actually participates in practice and only wants $7 million or less per year. He's worth between $7-8 if he can actually stay healthy, to me he's the more talented of the Giants' receivers, but the fact of the matter is he doesn't practice and he's always hurt. The only way you give up a 5th is if you know you can sign him long-term and the only way I sign him long term is if he's willing to take Cruz, Austin type money at 7-8 a year. The Giants will never take a 5th you want Nicks get ready to anty up a 1-2 or 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 The Giants will never take a 5th you want Nicks get ready to anty up a 1-2 or 3. I would probably say a 2 or 3, but after wasting a ton of money on Santonio Holmes, I doubt the Jets will sign another receiver for that kind of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I think Nicks could be could for us, but this team isnt a win now team anyway. Why give up high draft picks for someone you can have in free agency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 The Giants will never take a 5th you want Nicks get ready to anty up a 1-2 or 3. Then you simply do not make the trade: a 3 is pushing it, a 1 or a 2 is downright insane. Nicks is a free agent next year and all signs point towards the Giants letting him walk and replacing him with Randle, so getting anything for him, especially in a lost season, is a bonus. Seeing as how the team who trades for him needs to sign him to a long-term deal or essentially lose the pick they traded away, the best they can hope for is a conditional 5th that could escalate to a 4th. I'm not sure you really understand how valuable picks are and giving them up for a one-year rental, during a rebuilding year is no ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 The Giants will never take a 5th you want Nicks get ready to anty up a 1-2 or 3. You don't get a high pick for a rental player in the last year of his deal. At best, the Giants would get a third day pick and possibly a conditional future pick based on production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 We already have one receiver who cant throw it to himself. We need to find one who can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Robbins Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I would assume if we actually made this trade we would lock him up long-term. The compensation (for the trade) would have to be pretty low. He won't have any incentive to sign with us cheaper off of this trade than he would sign for in FA next year, unless he really wants off the Giants right now. With plenty of draft picks and cap room next year, we can address the needs at WR/TE next year. Unless the team is really high on Nicks or Idzik is confident this team has playoff potential, which I'm not sure he should be, it doesn't make sense to pay a premium for a WR this year. There's a possiblity we could simply acquire him in FA next year if nobody else bites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 The Giants are not trading him to the Jets so conjure all scenerios that will not happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I think Nicks could be could for us, but this team isnt a win now team anyway. Why give up high draft picks for someone you can have in free agency? The only reason you do it is to get first crack at signing him to that long-term deal, presumably one that is already worked out prior to the trade. I believe you'd still have the option to franchise him, so you still hold some of the leverage in negotiations. As Tom mentioned previously, Nicks seems to believe he's worth about $10 million per season; if he enters free agency with that attitude, he'll find teams as receptive as they were to Greg Jennings who settled for less than his desired $11. The going rate is going to be 5-6 years at $7-8 million per with about $18 million guaranteed, which I think would be fair for his caliber of player, but he's probably gonna be like jennings and look for Wallace and Harvin type money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 are we getting Nicks so Holmes has a buddy for when he's on the stationary bike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 If in fact Nicks is available Idzik must inquire. Nicks improves this WR corps immediately and helps develop Geno Smith. the jets are not in the market of developing QB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Then you simply do not make the trade: a 3 is pushing it, a 1 or a 2 is downright insane. Nicks is a free agent next year and all signs point towards the Giants letting him walk and replacing him with Randle, so getting anything for him, especially in a lost season, is a bonus. Seeing as how the team who trades for him needs to sign him to a long-term deal or essentially lose the pick they traded away, the best they can hope for is a conditional 5th that could escalate to a 4th. I'm not sure you really understand how valuable picks are and giving them up for a one-year rental, during a rebuilding year is no ideal. Do teams really use high draft picks (Randle) to build depth and have available to plug and play when the original high draft pick (Nicks) walks or maybe even fleece another desperate team into trading a pick for him? Novel concept. Wish my team followed this approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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