T0mShane Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Pointless. None of Pac's posts are pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Chad was better than both Mark and Geno. Which is ****ing flabbergasting when you really think about it. If Chad had Geno's arm the Jets would have probably won a Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'm at the movies please call in for me. Haha i was at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucrenegade Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 If Chad had Geno's arm the Jets would have probably won a Super Bowl. yep and if geno had chad's brains we would have a franchise QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 yep and if geno had chad's brains we would have a franchise QB Both true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 JetsBosoxFan was the best poster of all time. While we're at it. He was up there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 This might prove to be a tough sell. Even for the people who live to hate Pennington. It's not that I hated Chad (though his "it's a privilege to cover us" made me want to puke) it's just that he didn't have the physical tools to lead the Jets where we ultimately wanted them to go. But you're correct that it's a tough sell to say Geno is better (or is going to be better) than Chad. At least Chad was able to have some level of success (even if it was w/ a noodle arm and every scoring drive had to be a minimum of 13 plays). Geno shows flashes but then has 3 games of complete duds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Chad Pennigton was a seriously limited quarterback and embraced said limitations to the point that he failed to reach even his modest physical ceiling. And he's still better than Sanchez. Like right now. It's not a real high bar Geno has to clear here and he's still bombing it. I don't hate the draft pick or coming into the season committed <b>or even giving him another nine games of live bullets because it's not like we've got anything better to do with the position for the rest of the season anyway</b>. But there's really no getting around it at this point. What about Matt Simms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenoandtheJets Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Pennington is better then Smith accuracy wise. Sanchez helped the Jets get to back to back afc championship games so he's better then Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 What about Matt Simms? Well never know, but we should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Chad was by far the best QB. Although he'd be less effective in the modern day NFL. He was limited but consistently good enough to win games, which Sanchez absolutely was not. Geno is in his 2nd year and has the talent to be better than both but right now he's a bit of a trainwreck. Chad was the only one we developed well though, he was unfortunate with injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Geno Smith Is Better Than Mark Sanchez and Chad Pennington. I told you back in 2005 this stuff works for your business model. Too bad it took you 9 years to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucrenegade Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I told you back in 2005 this stuff works for your business model. Too bad it took you 9 years to agree. lol i see what you did their. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 If Chad had Geno's arm the Jets would have probably won a Super Bowl. Arm strength wasn't Chad's only flaw. We're talking about a guy who didn't win a single game in his career against a top defense. We get it, its tough to win against tough defenses, but to never do it ONCE? Unforgivable. For Pete's sake, he threw 4 picks at home against the Ravens in his final postseason game. He wasn't nearly as smart as some make him out to be. We're a bad franchise who outside of 11 games of Favre in '08 and Testaverde in '98 haven't been able to find anything close to greatness at the QB position since Namath. The fact that we're arguing over which sh*tty QB was better and treating Pennington like he was a god in hindsight tells us all we need to know about this terrible franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucrenegade Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Arm strength wasn't Chad's only flaw. We're talking about a guy who didn't win a single game in his career against a top defense. We get it, its tough to win against tough defenses, but to never do it ONCE? Unforgivable. For Pete's sake, he threw 5 picks at home against the Ravens in his final postseason game. He wasn't nearly as smart as some make him out to be. pre-injury he could beat any team..............most of us turned on him for the reasons you mentioned but that was after the injuries were affecting him.............he had no problem armwise throwing to moss at marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 pre-injury he could beat any team..............most of us turned on him for the reasons you mentioned but that was after the injuries were affecting him.............he had no problem armwise throwing to moss at marshall. He looked terrible in that 2002-03 playoff game against the Raiders (21-47, 183 yds, 1 TD, 2 INT's) before any arm troubles presented themselves. It's revisionist history to suggest his inability to throw the deep out was the ONLY thing preventing him from greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Arm strength wasn't Chad's only flaw. We're talking about a guy who didn't win a single game in his career against a top defense. We get it, its tough to win against tough defenses, but to never do it ONCE? Unforgivable. For Pete's sake, he threw 4 picks at home against the Ravens in his final postseason game. He wasn't nearly as smart as some make him out to be. We're a bad franchise who outside of 11 games of Favre in '08 and Testaverde in '98 haven't been able to find anything close to greatness at the QB position since Namath. The fact that we're arguing over which sh*tty QB was better and treating Pennington like he was a god in hindsight tells us all we need to know about this terrible franchise. Not on my ******* watch! **** Chad Pennington! **** him up his worthless, noodle-armed ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucrenegade Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 He looked terrible in that 2002-03 playoff game against the Raiders (21-47, 183 yds, 1 TD, 2 INT's) before any arm troubles presented themselves. It's revisionist history to suggest his inability to throw the deep out was the ONLY thing preventing him from greatness. actually i think that was the first game he was banged up in and it really became apparent when we played the bills the next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 actually i think that was the first game he was banged up in and it really became apparent when we played the bills the next year. Oh boo hoo. The NFL is a man's game and Pennington wasn't a man. Period. If he didn't have the physical makeup to handle the game he was never going to be a great QB. He's a rhode scholar so I'm sure he could have found himself an alternate profession rather than costing us $64 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Arm strength wasn't Chad's only flaw. We're talking about a guy who didn't win a single game in his career against a top defense. We get it, its tough to win against tough defenses, but to never do it ONCE? Unforgivable. For Pete's sake, he threw 4 picks at home against the Ravens in his final postseason game. He wasn't nearly as smart as some make him out to be. We're a bad franchise who outside of 11 games of Favre in '08 and Testaverde in '98 haven't been able to find anything close to greatness at the QB position since Namath. The fact that we're arguing over which sh*tty QB was better and treating Pennington like he was a god in hindsight tells us all we need to know about this terrible franchise. Doubt I treat Penny as a god, but he was good. Would have been better with a good arm/shoulder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Geno Smith Is Better Than Mark Sanchez and Chad Pennington. Not combined. But if you measure the career of Geno vs Mark or Chad individually, Geno will prove to be better. Just letting you all know. Please adjust your records accordingly. Sanchez, yes. Pennington....lol, no. But I guess I should applaud your optimism, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Regular season = Chad post season = Sanchez practice = geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Chad pre injury was probably the best out of all three. That's the problem with Chadduck - he was always post-injured. The OP is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Geno Smith Is Better Than Mark Sanchez and Chad Pennington. Not combined. But if you measure the career of Geno vs Mark or Chad individually, Geno will prove to be better. Just letting you all know. Please adjust your records accordingly. On what do you base this supposition? Geno has certainly shown a Sanchez-like quality of throwing pick sixes. He certainly will stay healthier than the oft-injured Chad, but BETTER than Chad? Doubtful. Chad could read defenses instantly. Smith can't read a defense if you gave him all week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I would like to see sanchez with the weapons we are finally giving to geno I think he would have done some pretty great things if he had decker harvin and kerley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Oh boo hoo. The NFL is a man's game and Pennington wasn't a man. Period. If he didn't have the physical makeup to handle the game he was never going to be a great QB. He's a rhode scholar so I'm sure he could have found himself an alternate profession rather than costing us $64 million. 1). Penny boy was the Jets best QB in the last 15 years. 2). He was not a Rhodes Scholar, he was a nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucrenegade Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 1). Penny boy was the Jets best QB in the last 15 years. 2). He was not a Rhodes Scholar, he was a nominee. actually favre was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Chad Pennington won the comeback player of the year award.....TWICE!!!! EAT THAT GENO SANCHEZ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 1). Penny boy was the Jets best QB in the last 15 years. Episode III was the best of the Star Wars prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Dirt tastes better than poop or vomit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 1). Penny boy was the Jets best QB in the last 15 years. 2). He was not a Rhodes Scholar, he was a nominee. Chad Pennington was awful in high-pressure games, his postseasons were brutal and that was with Hall of Fame running backs, legitimate WR's, and a Top 5 offensive line. Mark Sanchez was at his best in high-pressure games, his postseasons were terrific and that was with free agent castoffs at skill positions and slightly-above-average protection. Mark Sanchez was the best Jets QB in the last 40 years and he was run out of town by an embarassed owner who thought it was a way to placate his drunken fanbase. Worst decision in team history to let him go and let Idzik call the shots and Ryan overstay his welcome. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Chad Pennington was awful in high-pressure games, his postseasons were brutal and that was with Hall of Fame running backs, legitimate WR's, and a Top 5 offensive line. Mark Sanchez was at his best in high-pressure games, his postseasons were terrific and that was with free agent castoffs at skill positions and slightly-above-average protection. Mark Sanchez was the best Jets QB in the last 40 years and he was run out of town by an embarassed owner who thought it was a way to placate his drunken fanbase. Worst decision in team history to let him go and let Idzik call the shots and Ryan overstay his welcome. SAR I yea...that's the reason why Marky Mark won't ever see a starting gig in the NFL ever again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The soft bigotry of low expectations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 On what do you base this supposition? Geno has certainly shown a Sanchez-like quality of throwing pick sixes. He certainly will stay healthier than the oft-injured Chad, but BETTER than Chad? Doubtful. Chad could read defenses instantly. Smith can't read a defense if you gave him all week. October is sweeps month for NFL message boards. Max is just trying to create additional traffic with this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Geno Smith Is Better Than Mark Sanchez and Chad Pennington. Not combined. But if you measure the career of Geno vs Mark or Chad individually, Geno will prove to be better. Just letting you all know. Please adjust your records accordingly. that is like saying a hangnail is better than jock itch or athletes foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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