JetBlue Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 What if any proof do you have of this? None what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Out of the two "WR's" with names difficult to pronounce I was intrigued with Owuso more so than Enunwa... Too bad he is injured. Owusu is/was a concussion waiting to happen. The guy had been concussed about 5 times already; he probably should retire at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Say what you want about the drop in the 4th quarter, but the speed on that catch and run in overtime, that is exciting to see from such a big guy. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 What is our record with Enunwa in the game? 9-2? He is a HUGE part of our offense, he is an exceptional blocker. He is one of the more important Jets. His receiving skills which are very much improving are all a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 What is he rehabbing again? Was it a back issue or did he tear something? rotator cuff couldn't lift his arm past shoulder height. Should have been a 6 week injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 What is our record with Enunwa in the game? 9-2? He is a HUGE part of our offense, he is an exceptional blocker. He is one of the more important Jets. His receiving skills which are very much improving are all a bonus. Correlates with the Pryor injury...I'd say we need them both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Say what you want about the drop in the 4th quarter, but the speed on that catch and run in overtime, that is exciting to see from such a big guy. JMO. We call it a drop but it really was him not extending for the ball or seeing it properly. I think that was his inexperience showing; but his talent is really starting to show through as well. After that catch and run, his confidence must be sky high right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Correlates with the Pryor injury...I'd say we need them both Enunwa is a JAG... he proved again twice today why he's not a natural receiver - and will always be a backup. Not saying he can't make stuff happen when the ball's in his hands (or he wouldn't be in the NFL) but the guy can't catch for sh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Enunwa is a JAG... he proved again twice today why he's not a natural receiver - and will always be a backup. Not saying he can't make stuff happen when the ball's in his hands (or he wouldn't be in the NFL) but the guy can't catch for sh*t Not true at all. His role is sort of a hybrid TE/WR/OL role or true HB role and he is pretty exceptional at it. Developing as a receiver takes a while and he is essentially a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Enunwa is a JAG... he proved again twice today why he's not a natural receiver - and will always be a backup. Not saying he can't make stuff happen when the ball's in his hands (or he wouldn't be in the NFL) but the guy can't catch for sh*t Well I made an Enunwa jersey out of my Keller jersey, and we haven't lost since...Can't argue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Enunwa is a JAG... he proved again twice today why he's not a natural receiver - and will always be a backup. Not saying he can't make stuff happen when the ball's in his hands (or he wouldn't be in the NFL) but the guy can't catch for sh*t That's why he was a sixth round pick. 230 pound guys with that kind of speed and strength are first or second rounders if they can catch. That said, he's clearly getting better at catching the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Not true at all. His role is sort of a hybrid TE/WR/OL role or true HB role and he is pretty exceptional at it. Developing as a receiver takes a while and he is essentially a rookie. 100% true. Are you kidding? He's not a natural receiver. You're own argument supports that. He's being labeled as an Hback which has been largely eliminated from modern offenses. He lines up as a receiver half the time. When he's asked to run tight hitches off the line, yea, he's OK. which is why he's on the team. When he's asked to fullfil the role of a receiver, running stretch plays down the field?... He doesn't adjust, catch or know how to position himself. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate his role on the team, but he's not a reliable answer in the receiving game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 What is our record with Enunwa in the game? 9-2? He is a HUGE part of our offense, he is an exceptional blocker. He is one of the more important Jets. His receiving skills which are very much improving are all a bonus. Agreed. I get a "poor man's TO" vibe from him. He has moments where he's beastly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 100% true. Are you kidding? He's not a natural receiver. You're own argument supports that. He's being labeled as an Hback which has been largely eliminated from modern offenses. He lines up as a receiver half the time. When he's asked to run tight hitches off the line, yea, he's OK. which is why he's on the team. When he's asked to fullfil the role of a receiver, running stretch plays down the field?... He doesn't adjust, catch or know how to position himself. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate his role on the team, but he's not a reliable answer in the receiving game. He is basically in his rookie year. Do you think he can improve in those areas if he works hard and stays focused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 We call it a drop but it really was him not extending for the ball or seeing it properly. Exactly. You can call it a drop but what really happened is that the ball hit his hands and he just didn't catch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Whenever Enunwa catches the ball I always shout E-NUN-WA in my best african voice. I don't know why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Jets look good at the WR position with Enunwa and Thompkins and Kerley, if they keep him. I was happy to see Enunwa come back from that drop, should be a confidence booster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Enunwa is a JAG... he proved again twice today why he's not a natural receiver - and will always be a backup. Not saying he can't make stuff happen when the ball's in his hands (or he wouldn't be in the NFL) but the guy can't catch for sh*t he still needs some work on his technique and how he places his hands. Big, fast, tough, maybe smart-- as opposed to Stephen Hilll --big, fast, dumb, untough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 ehh still better then chaz schillens or the immortal clyde gates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby2 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Enunwa is a JAG... he proved again twice today why he's not a natural receiver - and will always be a backup. Not saying he can't make stuff happen when the ball's in his hands (or he wouldn't be in the NFL) but the guy can't catch for sh*t Seriously? He looks like the most promising WR prospect we've had since Cotch, but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Seriously? He looks like the most promising WR prospect we've had since Cotch, but that's just me. Absolutely, seriously. Look I don't want to detract from the win today - that was balls out the best game i've had the pleasure of sitting through in a few years.... but it was a game that should have been over... twice. Enunwa has already shown me enough to know that he'll always be a role player. He's a capable of making some big plays once he gets the ball in his hands, but he's never going to be successful lining up as a tradition X or Z receiver. He's a physical specimen playing football. Not a receiver playing football. It's a lot like Brad Smith when he was with us. The guy could make plays, and carved out a niche, but he was never going to be a legit Split end, or flanker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Enunwa is a JAG... he proved again twice today why he's not a natural receiver - and will always be a backup. Not saying he can't make stuff happen when the ball's in his hands (or he wouldn't be in the NFL) but the guy can't catch for sh*t He's really still a rookie, after being on IR all last year. So it's way too early to call him a jag. That's just foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 100% true. Are you kidding? He's not a natural receiver. You're own argument supports that. He's being labeled as an Hback which has been largely eliminated from modern offenses. He lines up as a receiver half the time. When he's asked to run tight hitches off the line, yea, he's OK. which is why he's on the team. When he's asked to fullfil the role of a receiver, running stretch plays down the field?... He doesn't adjust, catch or know how to position himself. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate his role on the team, but he's not a reliable answer in the receiving game. So I guess he just got lucky in Dallas on that catch at the end of the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 He's really still a rookie, after being on IR all last year. So it's way too early to call him a jag. That's just foolish. Fine I take that back. He's not a JAG per say, but he's definitely a role player. I certainly wouldn't expect him to overtake anyone ever as your top 3 WRs.. the system we're playing in, puts him on the field about 5x more often then he'd end up on the field playing elsewhere. If he hadn't of redeem himself with that excellent catch and run today, there'd be a mob in this thread right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 So I guess he just got lucky in Dallas on that catch at the end of the game? He's not in the NFL by virtue of a lottery. Assume he's going to do something, sometimes. You're reaching for an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby2 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Absolutely, seriously. Look I don't want to detract from the win today - that was balls out the best game i've had the pleasure of sitting through in a few years.... but it was a game that should have been over... twice. Enunwa has already shown me enough to know that he'll always be a role player. He's a capable of making some big plays once he gets the ball in his hands, but he's never going to be successful lining up as a tradition X or Z receiver. He's a physical specimen playing football. Not a receiver playing football. It's a lot like Brad Smith when he was with us. The guy could make plays, and carved out a niche, but he was never going to be a legit Split end, or flanker. If you can develop him into a #3 wr who catches 45-60 balls a year, I think you would take that. I would. He doesn't have to be a star, just be a nfl caliber receiver, something we haven't developed in forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 If you can develop him into a #3 wr who catches 45-60 balls a year, I think you would take that. I would. He doesn't have to be a star, just be a nfl caliber receiver, something we haven't developed in forever. I'll take that in a heartbeat, but I think more than likely, he'll be a role player whose field time would diminish considerably should Chan ever move on. I like him as that 4th WR/HB who can be a part of redzone and flex packages. We still need to seek out that successor behind Marshall/Decker. Smith has a ways to go. I'd be thrilled to grab a Coleman, or Robinson in the draft this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 He is basically in his rookie year. Do you think he can improve in those areas if he works hard and stays focused? Fine I take that back. He's not a JAG per say, but he's definitely a role player. I certainly wouldn't expect him to overtake anyone ever as your top 3 WRs.. the system we're playing in, puts him on the field about 5x more often then he'd end up on the field playing elsewhere. If he hadn't of redeem himself with that excellent catch and run today, there'd be a mob in this thread right now. I always knew he was fast, but we saw a second gear today. No one was catching him from behind in OT. The Pats are lucky they had a guy down the field who was able to get in front of him, otherwise that was an 80 yard TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 By the way, I've never seen a guy with such so-so hands make so many clutch catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 If you can develop him into a #3 wr who catches 45-60 balls a year, I think you would take that. I would. He doesn't have to be a star, just be a nfl caliber receiver, something we haven't developed in forever. A good #3, a guy who can push up the field, and a guy who can BLOCK. A 3rd option behind Decker and Marshall, there is NOTHING wrong with being that. He can become a good mismatch guy, big for most corners, too fast for most LB. And, like I said, when you go 3 or 4 wide, he blocks really well, so you can still run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I've seen enough from Enunwa to say he is not a natural receiver. He fights the ball and frankly simply doesn't have great hand/eye coordination. He's ripped as all hell - sounds like he is a fantastic blocker for his position. But frankly, he makes me nervous every time he's out there. It's not my gut, it's observing him drop several big balls almost every game he's had decent PT in. Great win today. He had a really surprising burst on that overtime catch but I want him pushed down the depth chart quite a bit next season. I want him at #5-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Agreed. I get a "poor man's TO" vibe from him. He has moments where he's beastly. He was compared to Boldin when he was with the Cards. Far fetched BUT he is showing signs of improving. He will never be a complete WR like Boldin was. His hands are very suspect. If he can improve his tracking and hands, he definitely would be a match up problem. He is strong, big and fast. He needs to really work on developing soft hands this next coming off season. Work with a ex-pro bowler like Tim Brown, Chris Carter or someone who he has ties with. Potential to be more than serviceable is there but he is as raw as an onion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I'll take that in a heartbeat, but I think more than likely, he'll be a role player whose field time would diminish considerably should Chan ever move on. I like him as that 4th WR/HB who can be a part of redzone and flex packages. We still need to seek out that successor behind Marshall/Decker. Smith has a ways to go. I'd be thrilled to grab a Coleman, or Robinson in the draft this year. We have way to many needs to take a WR that high in the draft. OT, RB, LB's, are the priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 We have way to many needs to take a WR that high in the draft. OT, RB, LB's, are the priority. it's that kind of mentality that put us in the hole the last few years... Understand, I'm not advocating that WR is top priority, but striking that position off the draft wish list is not prudent. I agree, the 3 you've listed are at the top of the grocery list, but you have to play the board how it shakes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Wasn't a big fan of his in the beginning of the year, but he has stepped up his play with more opportunities. Still needs to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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