nyjets782 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 there were a ton of balls he threw up for grabs, I am not just talking about on TDs. I didn't say we weren't going anywhere, that season was giftwrapped for us. we could have won a SB that year but Favre sabotaged our season. I just can't give an injury excuse to the iron man. if he wasn't able to play physically he needed to take a seat. he played, he's evaluated on how he played and he stunk. he threw away our season. Okay and I don't entirely disagree. The post I initially responded to was one where you indicated "we were never going anywhere that season" and your prior post you said Favre threw balls up for grabs and it worked early in the season and didn't work late. My two points of issue are 1) At 8-3 we were certainly going somewhere so it was not a foregone conclusion we would tank and 2) There were no if any jump ball TD's that year so it was not all about throwing balls up for grabs....certainly he threw many incomplete passes where he would muscle up and try to throw it out of the stadium, but it was not a matter of having success early with that and not having it late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Okay and I don't entirely disagree. The post I initially responded to was one where you indicated "we were never going anywhere that season" and your prior post you said Favre threw balls up for grabs and it worked early in the season and didn't work late. My two points of issue are 1) At 8-3 we were certainly going somewhere so it was not a foregone conclusion we would tank and 2) There were no if any jump ball TD's that year so it was not all about throwing balls up for grabs....certainly he threw many incomplete passes where he would muscle up and try to throw it out of the stadium, but it was not a matter of having success early with that and not having it late. I don't think I said we were never going anywhere that season, if I did I mistyped it. the AFC that year, like this one, was wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joewilly12 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 On January 19, 2016 at 1:25 PM, T0mShane said: BowlesMovement committing homicide in the thread. Strong contender for 2016 JN Captain. Got my vote!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I'm kind of surprised the Fins haven't offered him a front office position. He was an advisor to their owner and supposedly has a good relationship with him. And of course he worked with Tanny who knows he has good knowledge and judgment in evaluating personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 On 1/18/2016 at 4:02 PM, jetscrazey said: Mangini is a smart guy but not capable of being an NFL head coach because of 1) his poor people skills and 2) his inability to relate to the players. You can't win treating your players like high schoolers. Pete Kendall was a perfect example of that had him with the rookies in camp and fought over a million or so that was promised to him.. When Favre was hurt the right thing to do would have been to put in Clemens his 2006 choice who he never developed.. Or can that be said just about Rex?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Not a particularly great coach but did an okay job as a buffer from Tannenbaum's terrible roster development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Rangers9 said: I'm kind of surprised the Fins haven't offered him a front office position. He was an advisor to their owner and supposedly has a good relationship with him. And of course he worked with Tanny who knows he has good knowledge and judgment in evaluating personnel. I'm a little surprised, too, being that they're on a roll with terrible hires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 If anyone should hire Mangini, its the Bills. Rex did very well with Mangini's team. Hopefully they don't come to that conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 On 1/19/2016 at 1:25 PM, BowlesMovement said: How has Rex done since going to those back to back AFC title games? Well he knocked Bowles Jets out of the playoffs this year..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, Savage69 said: Well he knocked Bowles Jets out of the playoffs this year..LOL Whens the parade? Did I miss it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, BowlesMovement said: Whens the parade? Did I miss it? Once a poster names himself after a coach or a player I don't expect a fair evaluation of his opinions concerning either.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I thought Mangini would grow into the job despite six years of evidence to the contrary and repeated displays certifying that his attention-seeking buffoonery was not simply an act, but the bedrock institution of his psyche. To this day, I do a little fist pump when his team beats my own because it helps validate my posting history, even as I attempt to qualify it through the lens of revisionist history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I thought Mangini would grow into the job despite six years of evidence to the contrary and repeated displays certifying that his attention-seeking buffoonery was not simply an act, but the bedrock institution of his psyche. To this day, I do a little fist pump when his team beats my own because it helps validate my posting history, even as I attempt to qualify it through the lens of revisionist history. Pettine seems to have these issues too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 23 minutes ago, Savage69 said: Once a poster names himself after a coach or a player I don't expect a fair evaluation of his opinions concerning either.. We have been through this before.... It was a play on Bowel movement, I was not a fan of the hire. I am neither high nor low on him at this point, but not sure what the FK this has to do with Rex or Mangini. Again, when is Rex's parade for winning his SB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, BowlesMovement said: We have been through this before.... It was a play on Bowel movement, I was not a fan of the hire. I am neither high nor low on him at this point, but not sure what the FK this has to do with Rex or Mangini. Again, when is Rex's parade for winning his SB? Right after Mangini gets another Head coaching job and wins a playoff game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 On January 20, 2016 at 2:07 PM, #27TheDominator said: So, what you are saying is that Parcells saved the franchise by drafting... Chad Pennington? FWIW, I kind of agree with the first, but totally do not agree with the 2nd. I give Mangini way less credit for the drafts than some, but what did Rex use that Mangini put together? Jenkins and Woody were obvious Tannenbaum moves and Jenkins was barely around. Revis and Harris sure, but he doesn't exactly get a gold star for Brick and Mangold. Those were fairly obvious choices. What were the other key pieces? Rex won with Faneca and Slauson. Jones? Did just as well with Tomlinson. He won with Kerry Rhodes and Brodney Poole Keller? Whoop-de-damn-doo! I can agree about Rex not being a franchise building coach that will lead you over a long stretch without agreeing that Mangini built that team. sh*t he traded the Sanchez pick for half the remaining starters and another for Edwards. I just saw this horrific slander. Tell me more about these "obvious choices," pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 27 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Pettine seems to have these issues too. Moral of the story: never take the Cleveland job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Well he knocked Bowles Jets out of the playoffs this year..LOL Rex Ryan is only the 4th HC since 1970 to go 5 straight years without making the playoffs. Thankfully, he had Mangini's team in '09 and '10 or it would be 7 straight years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Mangini should be running a scouting department. Herm is doing what he should be doing now, TV and working with the league mentoring rookies. Parcells is the polar opposite of Mangini. He should of stuck to coaching, no business on the personnel side. Rex is Rex. Come out one week against an elite opponent, play well, then the next week come out hung over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I just wish we had an owner that could demand enough respect to get a "REAL" head coach in here. Every guy he has hired has been a first timer with no record 2000 Al Groh-no HC experience went 9-7 and in 3rd place 2001-2005 Herman Edwards no HC experience and in his 5 years here went 39-412-3 in the playoffs 2006-2009-Eric Mangini no HC experience and in his 3 years here went 23-25 0-1 in the playoffs 2010-2015 Rex Ryan no HC experience and in his 6 years here went 46-50 and 4-2 in the playoffs why is it that no name coaches will work for this guy-starting with an abbreviated napkin resignation after ONE DAY on the job ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: Rex Ryan is only the 4th HC since 1970 to go 5 straight years without making the playoffs. Thankfully, he had Mangini's team in '09 and '10 or it would be 7 straight years. And even with Chad and Favre Mangini couldn't win a playoff game.. Plus what you posted is not true hell BB only had 1 winning record in his first 6 years.. Marvin Lewis has yet to win a playoff game in 13 years.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I just wish we had an owner that could demand enough respect to get a "REAL" head coach in here. Every guy he has hired has been a first timer with no record 2000 Al Groh-no HC experience went 9-7 and in 3rd place 2001-2005 Herman Edwards no HC experience and in his 5 years here went 39-412-3 in the playoffs 2006-2009-Eric Mangini no HC experience and in his 3 years here went 23-25 0-1 in the playoffs 2010-2015 Rex Ryan no HC experience and in his 6 years here went 46-50 and 4-2 in the playoffs why is it that no name coaches will work for this guy-starting with an abbreviated napkin resignation after ONE DAY on the job ? BB is undefeated as HC of the NYJ's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Just now, PatsFanTX said: BB is undefeated as HC of the NYJ's. You see what Ty Law said about The Genius last Week Mike? He said that had it not been for foolish personnel moves New England might have won another couple of titles. You have to admit leaving his QB with garbage to throw to for a few of those seasons had football fans everywhere scratching their heads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 You see what Ty Law said about The Genius last Week Mike? He said that had it not been for foolish personnel moves New England might have won another couple of titles. You have to admit leaving his QB with garbage to throw to for a few of those seasons had football fans everywhere scratching their heads That's my only peeve with BB Jimmy. Brady has only had one (Moss) legitimate wide receiver his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 27 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: BB is undefeated as HC of the NYJ's. And has never won a game either.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: That's my only peeve with BB Jimmy. Brady has only had one (Moss) legitimate wide receiver his entire career. He had Troy Brown catch 101 balls for him in 2001, 97 more in '02, Deon Branch and David Givens were pretty good ones too but after he let Branch go, that's when we all started wondering WTF is he doing Moss and Wes Welker, Seriously? Then Gronk's been a nice addition over the past 6 seasons averaging 63 catches a year and he's missed 23 games so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 54 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Rex Ryan is only the 4th HC since 1970 to go 5 straight years without making the playoffs. Thankfully, he had Mangini's team in '09 and '10 or it would be 7 straight years. Wow I didn't know that!! That is a daming statistic... Curse you TX!!!☺️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Wow I didn't know that!! That is a daming statistic... Curse you TX!!!☺️ Don't fall for Tex facts CB.. OK lets play BB has just 1 winning season in 6 years as a HC without Brady.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I still think Mangini can be a good HC in the NFL. He probably got a job at too young of an age though. I don't think we've heard the last of him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 19 hours ago, SoFlaJets said: I just wish we had an owner that could demand enough respect to get a "REAL" head coach in here. Every guy he has hired has been a first timer with no record 2000 Al Groh-no HC experience went 9-7 and in 3rd place 2001-2005 Herman Edwards no HC experience and in his 5 years here went 39-412-3 in the playoffs 2006-2009-Eric Mangini no HC experience and in his 3 years here went 23-25 0-1 in the playoffs 2010-2015 Rex Ryan no HC experience and in his 6 years here went 46-50 and 4-2 in the playoffs why is it that no name coaches will work for this guy-starting with an abbreviated napkin resignation after ONE DAY on the job ? when he came in he did do all he could to try to get BP back. and all of those coaches have had success outside of Groh. 19 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Rex Ryan is only the 4th HC since 1970 to go 5 straight years without making the playoffs. Thankfully, he had Mangini's team in '09 and '10 or it would be 7 straight years. BB was 5 of 6 until he got Brady and then became the greatest coach of all time. that # is a little misleading b/c most don't get an opportunity right away if they have had 3-4 non playoff seasons in a row but plenty of had 5 straight non playoff seasons just not consecutive. By the way, hall of famer Marv Levy had 5 straight non playoff seasons in KC then added 2 more a few years later in Buffalo. Bart Starr once had 7 straight in GB The current SB champ HC had 5 straight in Houston Jim Haslett 5 in NO that's 5 already so clearly that nugget of info is incorrect. Bum Phillips also did it in NO Jack Patera had 6 in Sea Jeff Fisher in Hou/Ten Norv Turner in washington had 5 this was looking it up in 5 minutes, I am sure there are more. Please try to post semi-accurate info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 On 1/18/2016 at 3:51 PM, nyjunc said: watching him all year he didn't look much different in December than he did in September. he had one nice stretch of games in November then it fell apart, I think the injury is an excuse but we can disagree Totally agree. Favre didn't want to learn a new playbook on short notice. By midseason opposing defensive coordinators had seen our entire offensive repertoire and schemed for it. That was that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I don't know who is the biggesr loser Tx is more in love with Mangini or Mallett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 18 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I still think Mangini can be a good HC in the NFL. He probably got a job at too young of an age though. I don't think we've heard the last of him though. Mangini is done he's failed horribly at too many jobs. Schotty too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 On March 20, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Savage69 said: Don't fall for Tex facts CB.. OK lets play BB has just 1 winning season in 6 years as a HC without Brady.. Belichick would have had Al Groh's coaching career without Brady. Patriot Way: luck into drafting the greatest qb ever at 199 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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