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jamesr

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19 minutes ago, maury77 said:

If the price is right, the Jets have to strongly consider signing this kid. Is any QB coming out of this draft more talented than RG3? I don't see it. 

I think it depends on if you're serious about an open competition ... and given how different Fitz and he are, would you tailor the system to suit RG3 if you do sign him?

If not, there seems little point, as you'd be trying to make him play a system that doesn't accentuate his strengths.

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Lupz27

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21 minutes ago, jamesr said:

I think it depends on if you're serious about an open competition ... and given how different Fitz and he are, would you tailor the system to suit RG3 if you do sign him?

If not, there seems little point, as you'd be trying to make him play a system that doesn't accentuate his strengths.

I don't condone signing RGIII, but Gailey would tailor the system to him, that's what Gailey does.

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1 hour ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said:

RG3 has talent but will not come cheap and will cause drama in NY, I would pass 

and if they did consider him, it should not be until after the draft to see if anyone falls;  Dak, Cardale or even Hack in the 4th would provide potential too with far less risk

I think he'll be pretty cheap if all the pundits are right.  Everything I've heard about him is that he basically needs to be re-built from the ground up.  If that's the case, he'll have a hard time getting more than a couple mil per season...maybe a ton of incentives?

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50 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

I don't condone signing RGIII, but Gailey would tailor the system to him, that's what Gailey does.

My question was more, do you design your system to suit him, therefore making him your starter by default (his job to lose) or does he have to earn it first by showing enough in camp to be the best option? I think if you sign him you're naming him your starter day 1, and adjusting your system straight away - a very "all in" move. Either that or your trying to get him as depth, putting him in a less optimal system, and I don't see him signing up for that.

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1 hour ago, jamesr said:

My question was more, do you design your system to suit him, therefore making him your starter by default (his job to lose) or does he have to earn it first by showing enough in camp to be the best option? I think if you sign him you're naming him your starter day 1, and adjusting your system straight away - a very "all in" move. Either that or your trying to get him as depth, putting him in a less optimal system, and I don't see him signing up for that.

The part your not getting is Gailey's system is so flexible as is it suits any QB, any QB style, and it kinda already suits RGIII as is.  Jets did plenty of read option plays last year, but with built in screen passes instead of QB runs, it's a spread style offense, has 2 WR's, and hopefully a TE that are monsters that can be 1 read WR's as they will get open, and/or are big enough, talented enough to go up, and fight for the ball when he inevitably force passes to the first read when they are not open.  Not to mention the new possible threat that can be properly utilized in D Smith on fake read option plays with Safety even biting just for 1 step leaving Smith with the whole field to go chase a deep ball down which would also be a built in 1 read play so RGIII wouldn't have to move safeties with his eyes, go through his progressions to make that play successful just chuck it as far as you can where only D Smith can be able to run underneath it, and track it down which he should he is more than capable of doing at Ohio St.

Again I'm not in the RGIII signing camp, but when you look at Gailey's system it's already a fit the way Fitz ran it last year, just would change a few wrinkles nothing more.  And if anyone can get something out of RGIII atleast in the short term it just might be Gailey, but he would HAVE to be protected by not just am O-line, but a very capable run game so it would definitely change your whole offseason plan IMO if your first move is RGIII.  And that probably comes at the sacrifice of some speed at LB, and either Snacks, or Mo Wilk.

Would be fun thou watching a healthy, happy, committed, passionate, successful RGIII with weapons like L. Miller, B Marshall, E Decker, Amaro, D Smith, insert power RB to go with Miller, Enunwa, and rookie WR Coleman from Baylor  (who also becomes our punt, and kick off specialist immediately upgrading that position 10 fold).

A 5 wide set of D. Smith, and Coleman on the outside, and Marshall, Decker, and Amaro on the inside, and the need to spy RGIII would really be promising, you can't not play 2 deep safety with that formation as both Coleman, and Smith can bear anyone deep, that leaves those 3 monsters to roam the middle of the field, and 2 if not all 3 in 1 on 1 coverage.

sh*t please, please, please get me Coleman, and ANY QB who can exploit this set up (Fitz can't no arm, Geno to stupid, Petty most likely not ready).  I know everyone hates Bradford because they think he is made of glass, and overrated, I don't think he is overrated, actually think he has D Brees talent, but that's a different argument, the injury prone argument is valid, but I think with the weapons the Jets have, and matching Bradford with Gailey could be a Home Run!

 

Srry for long nonsensical drawn out, terrible grammar post.  Enjoy.

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I don't see the draw (no pun intented) to RG3. He's high risk for season ending injuries because of the way he plays, he's an entitled jerk with a helicopter dad and not such a great passer that he overcomes all the problems and risk he brings with him. He had that great year when running QBs were all the rage and that was pretty much the end of his success. He's Kaepernick but with a greater injury risk. I don't see any reason to bring him in on more than vet minimum in a backup position. He lacks the mindset to be humbled and take seriously redeveloping him as a passing QB who can run well when needed. We already have a QB on the roster who has a terrible mindset. We don't need to pay a premium for another one. Like Geno, when things get tough he's just going to backslide to the same technique that lost his job in WAS.

I would rather see the coaching staff dedicate the time developing a QB to a draft pick who wants to learn and might actually be this team's future.

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17 minutes ago, Joe Jets fan said:

Holy, I have heard the Rams.  How funny would it be if the Rams got all those picks and RG111 also.

I can see RGIII in tinseltown but after the Bradford experience I doubt Rams will want another injury-prone QB.

For the Jets, I say no and no.

No more Chads, no more Santonios.

 

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For everyone calling RG3 a prima donna and a pu$$y, all the reports coming out of Washington are that he handled being benched this year as well as possible and was a good teammate throughout the year. 

Gailey had a similar reclamation project while he was at Pittsburgh in Kordell Stewart, a player with a very similar skill set to RG3. 

As a backup QB, the most he is going to get paid is 3-4 million tops. If he is willing to come in for that money on a short term basis while also being given an legitimate opportunity to earn the starting spot (which he might be able to earn), what do the Jets have to lose? Sh!t, at least we can get rid of Geno. 

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13 hours ago, AFJF said:

I think he'll be pretty cheap if all the pundits are right.  Everything I've heard about him is that he basically needs to be re-built from the ground up.  If that's the case, he'll have a hard time getting more than a couple mil per season...maybe a ton of incentives?

For that I would be ok if the move can save a draft pick, but at this time I think a draft pick offers more potential

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2 hours ago, maury77 said:

For everyone calling RG3 a prima donna and a pu$$y, all the reports coming out of Washington are that he handled being benched this year as well as possible and was a good teammate throughout the year. 

Gailey had a similar reclamation project while he was at Pittsburgh in Kordell Stewart, a player with a very similar skill set to RG3. 

As a backup QB, the most he is going to get paid is 3-4 million tops. If he is willing to come in for that money on a short term basis while also being given an legitimate opportunity to earn the starting spot (which he might be able to earn), what do the Jets have to lose? Sh!t, at least we can get rid of Geno. 

Sure. He could be a good backup, but what makes you think he would accept such a limited role? And really, any interest the Jets might have would be determined later on in the offseason. The Jets will likely draft a QB. If they do they won't have any need for RGIII. But yes, I agree he would make a good short term backup to Fitz in the event the Jets did not draft a QB.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000637934/article/chiefs-eagles-potential-landing-spots-for-rgiii

 

Chiefs, Eagles potential landing spots for RGIII

  • By Marc Sessler
  • Around the NFL Writer
 
Redskins president Bruce Allen made it crystal clear on Tuesday that Robert Griffin III is on his way out of Washington -- but the quarterback's NFL future isn't over.

NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday on NFL HQ that the embattled Redskins passer "really did impress some teams with the way he conducted himself during a difficult year" that saw RGIII sit the entire season as the team's No. 3 quarterback.

Coach Jay Gruden was asked during the scouting combine if he's made contact with RGIII recently. "I haven't spoken to him recently, no," he said.

The Redskins have until March 9 to cut RGIII. Once they do, he's bound to draw interest.

"I'll give you two big options right off the top," Rapoport said on NFL Network. "The Kansas City Chiefs, who have Andy Reid, who has propped up quarterbacks for years. (Griffin) can learn to throw from the pocket under that system. Another potential name: the Philadelphia Eagles with one of Reid's disciples, Doug Pederson. They're looking for some quarterback depth there, especially if they don't re-sign Sam Bradford."

Beyond those two clubs, Rapoport was told that Denver could loom as a "legitimate" landing spot, as the Super Bowl-champion Broncos line up backups for potential starter Brock Osweiler.

So what about the Cowboys? Owner and general manager Jerry Jones has long been complimentary of Griffin, with Rapoport saying Dallas "could potentially be in the mix as well." Not the case in quarterback-needy Houston, though, with RapSheet saying he "wouldn't think the Texans" are about to enter the race for a passer who still feels destined to get another shot in the NFL.

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17 hours ago, Larz said:

shanahan ruined him

 

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Wasn't much to ruin. Another hyped college qb who had one good year because of Shanahan and because no one had tape of him.  Everyone uses the knee as an excuse but he's just another one read spread qb that couldn't learn how to go through progressions

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