PatsFanTX Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Damn your slow. I already alluded to banning you in another thread. Please keep up old man. Sorry, My Commadore 64 takes 18 minutes to move between threads. I'll check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, slats said: Don't fluff the troll. I actually threatened to ban him with my next post but these guys with this Fitz greatest ever none sense deserve to be trolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Sorry, My Commadore 64 takes 18 minutes to move between threads. I'll check it out. I actually have one in my bedroom closet at my mothers . The floppy disc player is the size of a shoebox. So awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Don't fluff the troll. Seriously slats, how am I a troll? I have never personally attacked another poster, I don't use vulgar language and I try to stay on thread topics. Just because I state my opinion that is different than yours, I am a troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: It's factually incorrect. How many carries did Martin have when our lead was >10 points? Three. 31 carries were with Jax within 10 points of us. So that's a load of garbage. Teams don't sit on a 10 point lead with (ironically) one of the game's most careful QBs with the ball that year. Vin man, Keyshawn, and Chrebet kept moving the chains that year to allow all those carries. If I remember correctly, our boys finished 1-2 in the NFL in 3rd down conversion catches that year. If a hole was in front of him, he usually ran through it (too often, slowly). If no hole was there, Mr. "Vision" was a big nothing at making something out of nothing. Good all around back, with an inhuman threshold for dealing with pain, but not a difference maker with all the marbles on the line. He needed others to make his job easy so he could take credit for it all. Going into the 4th quarter we were up 31-14... Jacksonville Jaguars 24 at New York Jets 34 Sunday, January 10, 1999 Jets @ Jaguars Scoring Team Stats Player Stats Pass/Rush Direction Drives Play-by-Play 1 2 3 4 Final Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5-0) 0 7 7 10 24 New York Jets (12-4-0) 7 10 14 3 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I took a quick look at ESPN for Qb stats and I didn't check out all of those numbers. But anyways they had Hoyer, Landry Jones, McCarron and Bridgewater rated over Fitz. I'll give you a few stats too: 31-15. And 10 Ws. Previous season:4-10. And despite what Sperm says imo he was the key to this. Now one question for you. If Fitz is so bad isn't it good for your team that we re-sign him. I doubt it strongly. Hey Ranger, I owe you an apology. You are certainly entitled to you opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simijet Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, Savage69 said: Going into the 4th quarter we were up 31-14... Jacksonville Jaguars 24 at New York Jets 34 Sunday, January 10, 1999 Jets @ Jaguars Scoring Team Stats Player Stats Pass/Rush Direction Drives Play-by-Play 1 2 3 4 Final Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5-0) 0 7 7 10 24 New York Jets (12-4-0) 7 10 14 3 34 Checkmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 On March 25, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Snell41 said: He also played pretty much lights out the prior 5 games to get us in position to be thewre against BUF. I'm not even advocating for the guy, but Christ every QB has a bad game at some point. Lights out? LMAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, Savage69 said: Going into the 4th quarter we were up 31-14... Jacksonville Jaguars 24 at New York Jets 34 Sunday, January 10, 1999 Jets @ Jaguars Scoring Team Stats Player Stats Pass/Rush Direction Drives Play-by-Play 1 2 3 4 Final Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5-0) 0 7 7 10 24 New York Jets (12-4-0) 7 10 14 3 34 For 1 possession. And he got 3 carries on 1 that possession before it went back to being a 10 point game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Simijet said: Checkmate Wrong. We were up by 17 for exactly 1 possession. The entire rest of the game it was within 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Sperm Edwards said: Wrong. We were up by 17 for exactly 1 possession. The entire rest of the game it was within 10. Yeah toward the end they had KJ playing DB that was when Brunell was 28 and a decent QB we got him later in his 40's..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Savage69 said: Yeah toward the end they had KJ playing DB that was when Brunell was 28 and a decent QB we got him later in his 40's..LOL So the excuse he gave you, that we were just nursing a giant lead all game long, and that's the reason for Martin's low ypc, is horsesh*t. Not to mention, isn't the purpose of an elite back to do this great job in the face of such adversity, not use adversity as a crutch excuse for meh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 22 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Seriously slats, how am I a troll? I have never personally attacked another poster, I don't use vulgar language and I try to stay on thread topics. Just because I state my opinion that is different than yours, I am a troll? First of all, you live under a bridge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 2 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Do you post delusional falsehoods just so you can feel better? Fitz was not even close to a top NFL QB in any single statistical measurement. When you look at the "facts", he was a bottom-feeding NFL QB last year: 29th in completion percentage 27th in INT's 27th in YPA 24th in QBR He wasn't even in the top 10 for TD's and yardage. this is right on the money. Those were Fitz' numbers relative to the other NFL QBs. By 2015 standards, it is bottom third of the league or worse. But for many Jets fans, the fact that these numbers are the best in Jets history, there's a glimmer of hope. Goes to show you that everything rides on QB. Jets scouting is to blame for this and both Testaverde and Favre were promising but got hurt. Meanwhile, NE comp picks itself to Brady in round 6. How fortunate for you. Don't you see that you are preying on the wounded here? It's like hunting starving animals by putting out lots of food bait. It's way too easy and you should be embarrased for taking advantage of the helpless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: So the excuse he gave you, that we were just nursing a giant lead all game long, and that's the reason for Martin's low ypc, is horsesh*t. Not to mention, isn't the purpose of an elite back to do this great job in the face of such adversity, not use adversity as a crutch excuse for meh? I always got a kick out of Martinette's that said the Bronco's had to stop the dangerous 3.5 ypc Martin yet the Jets with the Tuna and BB had no worry's about TD with his 5.1 ypc 2008 yd 20+ td season..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 20 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Hey Ranger, I owe you an apology. You are certainly entitled to you opinion. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Just now, Savage69 said: I always got a kick out of Martinette's that said the Bronco's had to stop the dangerous 3.5 ypc Martin yet the Jets with the Tuna and BB had no worry's about TD with his 5.1 ypc 2008 yd 20+ td season..LOL Didn't we "know" TD was getting the ball in a good number of those situations? That is what made him a gamer more than someone else's longevity and excuses. That and chop-blocking lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 5 hours ago, johnnysd said: Curtis Martin is the most overrated player I can remember. And that is not just by Jets fans. He had elite durability that is all. Yeah well of late, Fitz is giving him a run for his money around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, Dcat said: this is right on the money. Those were Fitz' numbers relative to the other NFL QBs. By 2015 standards, it is bottom third of the league or worse. But for many Jets fans, the fact that these numbers are the best in Jets history, there's a glimmer of hope. Goes to show you that everything rides on QB. Jets scouting is to blame for this and both Testaverde and Favre were promising but got hurt. Meanwhile, NE comp picks itself to Brady in round 6. How fortunate for you. Don't you see that you are preying on the wounded here? It's like hunting starving animals by putting out lots of food bait. It's way too easy and you should be embarrased for taking advantage of the helpless. Again you're cherry picking stats from whatever site you're using. NFL.com said he ranked 15th in the NFL in 2015 among Qbs. I'd take that in 2016. And his coaches and teammates want him back. So do most Jets fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 3 hours ago, Dcat said: Pipe dream. Although I'd bet that most people want him out of here. But this is no democracy, otherwise there would have been a poll. There are a few regs here who seem to really enjoy the TX comedy show. And the Mods love him. They keep bringing him back. More clicks when people reply = better for JN website. Until Max feels differently, we are stuck with ol' TX. He is a fictional character. Guess you arent aware Max and all mods sign on as Tx ? All about the clicks baby☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 42 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Seriously slats, how am I a troll? I have never personally attacked another poster, I don't use vulgar language and I try to stay on thread topics. Just because I state my opinion that is different than yours, I am a troll? Are you trolling me now? I think you're trolling me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: Again you're cherry picking stats from whatever site you're using. NFL.com said he ranked 15th in the NFL in 2015 among Qbs. I'd take that in 2016. And his coaches and teammates want him back. So do most Jets fans. A broad rank over a single season ignores competition level and assumes all to be equal, which is ridiculous. What would most others look like with our pair of giant WRs and our cushy schedule? Those stats never attempt to ask. What would Fitz look like without a pair of starters like ours and a normal schedule? Hell I've seen massive excuses mount just when freaking Bilal Powell wasn't in a game, as though no QB could succeed through such adversity. He's meh. The entire league knows why he put up good (but nowhere near elite) numbers. Such opinions, of NFL professionals who know better, are reflected in the (allegedly) lowball and non-offers Fitz has received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 1 hour ago, PatsFanTX said: Seriously slats, how am I a troll? I have never personally attacked another poster, I don't use vulgar language and I try to stay on thread topics. Just because I state my opinion that is different than yours, I am a troll? Geesh. I just peed a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 On March 24, 2016 at 10:35 AM, kmnj said: browns got rg3 they already made in known they are not going to keep mcCown so I am sure you can him for a late round pick which I would do today-yes you can wait and maybe get him for nothing but I would sign him now at a late round pick -use him this year and see what happens with petty and geno Correction: Conditional late round pick. If he makes the opening day roster it's a 7th in 2018. If he starts more than 8 games it's a 7th in 2017. For Cleveland, it vastly beats releasing him outright and paying him his $1M guaranteed and have him play elsewhere. We don't have to offer them much of anything at all. Just getting us to take over the contract is value enough for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 31 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: A broad rank over a single season ignores competition level and assumes all to be equal, which is ridiculous. What would most others look like with our pair of giant WRs and our cushy schedule? Those stats never attempt to ask. What would Fitz look like without a pair of starters like ours and a normal schedule? Hell I've seen massive excuses mount just when freaking Bilal Powell wasn't in a game, as though no QB could succeed through such adversity. He's meh. The entire league knows why he put up good (but nowhere near elite) numbers. Such opinions, of NFL professionals who know better, are reflected in the (allegedly) lowball and non-offers Fitz has received. You make it sound like Marshall was a one man team and Fitz was a non factor. Well that's not what Marshall thinks. Our skill position players in '15 were good (as a group) not great. And if a skill position player had made one great catch we'd have made the playoffs. As for strength of schedule that's not determined until the end of the season. Every single one of those games was tough. A team like the Colts was expected to win but Luck was injured and had a bad year. And by the way the NFL.com ranking how do you know it doesn't include any of these variables. It sounds to me you're just looking for reasons to diss Fitz. Your privilege. I totally disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 18 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: You make it sound like Marshall was a one man team and Fitz was a non factor. Well that's not what Marshall thinks. Our skill position players in '15 were good (as a group) not great. And if a skill position player had made one great catch we'd have made the playoffs. As for strength of schedule that's not determined until the end of the season. Every single one of those games was tough. A team like the Colts was expected to win but Luck was injured and had a bad year. And by the way the NFL.com ranking how do you know it doesn't include any of these variables. It sounds to me you're just looking for reasons to diss Fitz. Your privilege. I totally disagree. What Marshall thinks lol. Marshall thinks he was targeted a million times and will get the ball whenever he tells Fitz to throw it to him. Marshall was also just as verbally supportive of Geno Smith in July-Aug. And saying "every single one" of our games was tough is just patently absurd. As though playing all those injury riddled and bottom ranked pass defenses is the exact same thing as playing elite (or even mostly average) pass D's. Literally nobody rationally thinks this. NFL.com does not rank anyone based on normalized stats. If you can point to them doing that then prove it (since you're the one citing their alleged ranking). Until then it is a baseless assumption. All they do is post aggregate, raw numbers. With regard to citing his stats and suggesting that infers a level f dominance, do you know what a paper tiger is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Are people actually serious about Josh ******* McCown? This has to be a joke. He's awful!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 10 hours ago, johnnysd said: He is NOT a starting QB. He is a veteran backup that is only signed as a transitional player that will enter camp as the incumbent starter. 3 times what he made last year on a team that needs to retool is completely irresponsible. Would you rather have him or McClown ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: Would you rather have him or McClown ??? Neither they are both JAGs, so whichever is cheaper if you decide you must have a veteran QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maxman Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I just merged all the Fitzpatrick threads from page 2 and 3 together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Just now, Maxman said: I just merged all the Fitzpatrick threads from page 2 and 3 together. Can you merge Geno Smith's physical abilities with Fitz character/leadership traits? Then I'd be willing to give Fitz 15 mill for the next 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Lupz27 said: Can you merge Geno Smith's physical abilities with Fitz character/leadership traits? Then I'd be willing to give Fitz 15 mill for the next 3 years. Might have to write an app for that. Give me a few days please.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 8 hours ago, Maxman said: I just merged all the Fitzpatrick threads from page 2 and 3 together. Can the Glennon threads be next. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 9 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Can you merge Geno Smith's physical abilities with Fitz character/leadership traits? Then I'd be willing to give Fitz 15 mill for the next 3 years. Where are you importing the decision making and awareness from? Neither have that trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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