Spoot-Face Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, LockeJET said: Reports are saying he wants to be traded. His agent gave the Jets a list of 29 teams he's interested in. ^^Probably trolling. But I remember he didn't seem at all excited when we drafted him. In fact, I'd even say he look "disheartened". So, this is probably true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetty Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/01/jets-optimistic-leveon-bell-denzel-mims-can-return-for-week-4/amp/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Spoot-Face said: ^^Probably trolling. But I remember he didn't seem at all excited when we drafted him. In fact, I'd even say he look "disheartened". So, this is probably true. Smart kid. I changed my mind. I like him now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, Young Jetty said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/01/jets-optimistic-leveon-bell-denzel-mims-can-return-for-week-4/amp/ Would be typical Jets to finally get everyone back only to find out Darnold can't play. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Would be typical Jets to finally get everyone back only to find out Darnold can't play. This is guaranteed. classic Jets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 5 hours ago, JTJet said: I got blasted in this board for calling him Devin Smith 2.0 Hope I'm wrong. So far you are correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 5 hours ago, JTJet said: I got blasted in this board for calling him Devin Smith 2.0 Hope I'm wrong. you are...he is not a JAG and yes is should be available for the Cardinals game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 55 minutes ago, jgb said: Au contraire. The wise GM doesn't prioritize those auxiliary pieces until you have a QB worth building around. Great weaponz can enhance a great QB's greatness, but they can not turn a turd into a primrose. You can't find out if your QB is any good without giving him help. Good offenses have a good QB, weapons and protection. There are few exceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, adb280z said: You can't find out if your QB is any good without giving him help. Good offenses have a good QB, weapons and protection. There are few exceptions. Disagree that you need laboratory conditions to know if a guy is worth building around, or not. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, bgivs21 said: They did not, they are not like a Dee Milner. That's what I thought. I guess it's just Jet itis. This kid and Becton are the only reason to watch games the rest of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, jetspenguin said: you are...he is not a JAG and yes is should be available for the Cardinals game. I'm completely right until proven otherwise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 He is having his hamstrings replaced along with the rest of the team.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, jgb said: Disagree that you need laboratory conditions to know if a guy is worth building around, or not. What young QB has ever looked good without help? Ever? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, adb280z said: What young QB has ever looked good without help? Ever? Oh no you don't. Darnold's your boy. You defend him. Otherwise, we'll just have to go by his numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Who is this Mims you speak of ??Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, JTJet said: I'm completely right until proven otherwise. no...you are completely wrong until proven otherwise 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post adb280z Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, jgb said: Oh no you don't. Darnold's your boy. You defend him. Otherwise, we'll just have to go by his numbers. His numbers suck. I don't know if he's any good. The Jets haven't helped him at all. No NFL QB would be successful on this Jets team. Weapons matter. Protection matters. Scheme matters. The Jets have none of the things that help a QB. That's not a defense of Darnold, it's just stating the obvious. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, adb280z said: His numbers suck. I don't know if he's any good. The Jets haven't helped him at all. No NFL QB would be successful on this Jets team. Weapons matter. Protection matters. Scheme matters. The Jets have none of the things that help a QB. That's not a defense of Darnold, it's just stating the obvious. You’re not wrong, although not sure it matters TBH. Jets are going to get a top 2 pick. They will be in a position to take Lawrence or Fields. Even if they believe Sam might have the tools to succeed in a better situation, they have to take a new QB and ride that 5 year rookie deal. Don’t see another choice. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, jgb said: You’re not wrong, although not sure it matters TBH. Jets are going to get a top 2 pick. They will be in a position to take Lawrence or Fields. Even if they believe Sam might have the tools to succeed in a better situation, they have to take a new QB and ride that 5 year rookie deal. Don’t see another choice. Absolutely, they have to start again. Just saying if they surround Lawrence or Field with a comparable amount of talent that they gave to Darnold we will be going through this again in 3 years. No one could be successful in this environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, jetspenguin said: no...you are completely wrong until proven otherwise Negative. He has not played an nfl snap, nor had more than 3 practices and we are a quarter done with the season. With this team's track record he does not get the benefit of the doubt. Factually speaking, he has NOT done a single thing to prove he will be good but he HAS done things to prove he wont be. And since you will argue that... go ahead, tell me something he has done so far to prove he is legit in the NFL. I'll wait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, adb280z said: What young QB has ever looked good without help? Ever? Except he’s old now. He’s got Palmer and Gase and can’t make it work? That’s on Sam. He’s a big boy now. Time to grow up. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I went and copy/pasted this from an old hackenberg thread: "You can't say he's not good because you've never seen him play in an NFL game." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, adb280z said: Absolutely, they have to start again. Just saying if they surround Lawrence or Field with a comparable amount of talent that they gave to Darnold we will be going through this again in 3 years. No one could be successful in this environment. They will automatically have better talent because they will have Becton and Mims on the team already. I know Mims hasn'tplayed but from what I have seen of the rookie receivers so far, I think Mims will be right up there with the best of them once he gets comfortable. Plus unlike with Sam where we had traded away assets just to move up and get him, we already have another first round pick this year and plenty of cap space. I know all the injuries are very disappointing but I do believe JD drafted some talented players and hopefully they can get on the field this year and get some quality PT and be ready to ball out next year. Lawrence or Fields will be coming into a much better situation than Sam did. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, adb280z said: His numbers suck. I don't know if he's any good. The Jets haven't helped him at all. No NFL QB would be successful on this Jets team. Weapons matter. Protection matters. Scheme matters. The Jets have none of the things that help a QB. That's not a defense of Darnold, it's just stating the obvious. When you add this to the fact that he is only 23 and occasionally makes specular plays, I am personally terrified that he will turn into a stud with his next team. However, if we are really going 2-14 or 3-13 and get a chance to take a top QB prospect, we basically have to do it. I have always liked Darnold as a prospect, but he is running out of time here. Without a dramatic turnaround this season, I can't imagine him on the team next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, JetBlue said: They will automatically have better talent because they will have Becton and Mims on the team already. I know Mims hasn'tplayed but from what I have seen of the rookie receivers so far, I think Mims will be right up there with the best of them once he gets comfortable. Plus unlike with Sam where we had traded away assets just to move up and get him, we already have another first round pick this year and plenty of cap space. I know all the injuries are very disappointing but I do believe JD drafted some talented players and hopefully they can get on the field this year and get some quality PT and be ready to ball out next year. Lawrence or Fields will be coming into a much better situation than Sam did. I have been high on Mims for a long time and was very excited that we drafted him. I really can't wait to see him on the field. Of course, as soon as he's finally healthy, Darnold gets hurt and we'll probably be watching Flacoo throw to him a week from now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, slimjasi said: I have been high on Mims for a long time and was very excited that we drafted him. I really can't wait to see him on the field. Of course, as soon as he's finally healthy, Darnold gets hurt and we'll probably be watching Flacoo throw to him a week from now. Flacco or Morgan. I'm okay with it because I have mentally moved on from Darnold and don't think he is in the teams future. My main interest is in seeing how our 2020 draft class performs and develops. If we finish with 3 wins or less, most likely they will be looking to take another Quarterback, Lawrence, Fields or perhaps someone else who emerges out of nowhere, (like Burrow last year). The Darnold era may be rapidly closing; enjoy it while it lasts... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, JTJet said: Negative. He has not played an nfl snap, nor had more than 3 practices and we are a quarter done with the season. With this team's track record he does not get the benefit of the doubt. Factually speaking, he has NOT done a single thing to prove he will be good but he HAS done things to prove he wont be. And since you will argue that... go ahead, tell me something he has done so far to prove he is legit in the NFL. I'll wait. This might be one of the strangest posts I've seen all day. What HAS he done too prove that he will not be good? With your reasoning Aaron Rogers was a bust for three years. Then all of the sudden he wasn't and became one of the best QB's to ever play the game. Mims is hurt, it's as simple as that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, JetBlue said: The Darnold era may be rapidly closing; enjoy it while it lasts... I believe that it is, but I would like to see Darnold get 3 full seasons before signing the paperwork. I fully expect to be moving on 12 weeks from now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, RobR said: This might be one of the strangest posts I've seen all day. What HAS he done too prove that he will not be good? With your reasoning Aaron Rogers was a bust for three years. Then all of the sudden he wasn't and became one of the best QB's to ever play the game. Mims is hurt, it's as simple as that. Having constant injuries and never seeing the field translates into no production. No production translates into not being good. I still havent seen anyone list a reason he IS good. I'm still waiting. As it stands currently, Mims is closer to a Devin Smith comparison than a Keyshawn Johnson comparison. Not sure how anyone can disagree with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, JTJet said: Having constant injuries and never seeing the field translates into no production. No production translates into not being good. I still havent seen anyone list a reason he IS good. I'm still waiting. As it stands currently, Mims is closer to a Devin Smith comparison than a Keyshawn Johnson comparison. Not sure how anyone can disagree with that. We're four games into his rookie season and he got hurt during the most freakish offseason in NFL history. He never had an injury history in college besides a broken hand. No one can list why he "IS" good because he's hurt, BUT anyone can give you a 100 reasons why he WILL be good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, RobR said: We're four games into his rookie season and he got hurt during the most freakish offseason in NFL history. He never had an injury history in college besides a broken hand. No one can list why he "IS" good because he's hurt, BUT anyone can give you a 100 reasons why he WILL be good. That's my point. There are people just assuming he IS already good without any evidence to back it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, JTJet said: That's my point. There are people just assuming he IS already good without any evidence to back it. There is evidence to back it up.....it's called his college career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I got blasted in this board for calling him Devin Smith 2.0 Hope I'm wrong. You deserved it. It’s a dumb comparison. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 48 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: You deserved it. It’s a dumb comparison. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Convince me he isnt then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, RobR said: There is evidence to back it up.....it's called his college career. That's not neccesarily evidence he will be good in the NFL. Last time I checked Geno Smith had a good college career too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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