2 huge moves that have made Douglas a great GM

[Rhg1084]

Sure he’s had some missteps along the way. Not resigning Robby, drafting a QB in round 4. 
 

However these 2 moves alone have cemented him a great GM.

1) Drafting Mekhi Becton. This guy is an All Pro LT for next 12 years.

2) Trading Jamal for two 1s and a 3. What an absolute haul. Not to mention saving the $16m in cap space we’d have to use on him. Jamal having a lot of problems in Seattle 

Douglas is the best GM this team has had in awhile. He will make us a contender soon. 

[predator_05]

Can't be a 'great' GM unless the players turn out to be good. 

 

I'm still haunted by the 2014 draft. Remember that? Most loaded draft class of the decade...and every single one of the Jets' picks was a bust. 

[Beerfish]

Quite possibly but more of this years draft class has to turn out good, not just becton.

He also made a few needless errors on draft day.

[LIJetsFan]

Hindsight is 20/20 re WR and QB missteps.  Otherwise I love me some JD as well (no homo)    

[kevinc855]

lol. When Mac drafted Q, it was "it fell into his lap". Same could be said about Bechton.

You cannot judge the JA trade till we see who he drafts with it.

He has made some head scratching moves so far like drafting a QB in the 4th who no one has seen and failing miserably in the WR market. 

We have a long way to go on JD. 

[Rhg1084]

Just now, Beerfish said:

Quite possibly but more of this years draft class has to turn out good, not just becton.

He also made a few needless errors on draft day.

Mims is a solid WR, who will be a starter. When was the last time the Jets drafted a starter in round 2? Perine looks like he can be a contributor as well. Mann is a stud. That’s a lot from one draft class, especially when you consider the Jets history with the draft. Becton being an All Pro alone is enough to grade this draft as an A+

[Rhg1084]

Just now, kevinc855 said:

lol. When Mac drafted Q, it was "it fell into his lap". Same could be said about Bechton.

You cannot judge the JA trade till we see who he drafts with it.

He has made some head scratching moves so far like drafting a QB in the 4th who no one has seen and failing miserably in the WR market. 

We have a long way to go on JD. 

Douglas had the choice btwn Wirfs and Becton. He made the right choice

[kevinc855]

1 minute ago, Rhg1084 said:

Douglas had the choice btwn Wirfs and Becton. He made the right choice

Not many smart people had Wirfs before Becton but ok....

[Rhg1084]

1 minute ago, kevinc855 said:

Not many smart people had Wirfs before Becton but ok....

Wirfs was literally ranked higher than Becton in almost every pre draft scouting report. 

[Scott Dierking]

I am really not feeling pain from the Robby Anderson non-signing. His numbers continue to diminish as this season goes on, and this is as a #2 in the Carolina offense. He would have been a #1 here, and do we really think that would have been a difference maker.

1TD  reception does not impress me.

[Paradis]

1 minute ago, Rhg1084 said:

Mims is a solid WR, who will be a starter. When was the last time the Jets drafted a starter in round 2? Perine looks like he can be a contributor as well. Mann is a stud. That’s a lot from one draft class, especially when you consider the Jets history with the draft. Becton being an All Pro alone is enough to grade this draft as an A+

lol, put away the Cialis poncho... A+ because we needed a LT and they drafted on consensus top LT?

He faired better (already) than the last 2 combined. Yes... but that bar is so low you could throw darts blindfold at a draft board and do better... Mims is going to be a stud, but after that - it's pretty sketchy outside of Bryce Hall.

Sometimes it's who you pass on - and this draft was well stoked in rounds 3-4... we had FOUR picks.

1. A Davis
2. J. Zuniga
3. L Perine
4. J Morgan

That's mostly sh*t - and that's where the A+ GMs show their stuff. Those are the rounds you have to win. Not the gimmes in 1-2

[kevinc855]

1 minute ago, Rhg1084 said:

Wirfs was literally ranked higher than Becton in almost every pre draft scouting report. 

guess you didnt read the text lol..........Becton has also been missing games. I want to see him stay healthy and I will be VERY happy in the pick

[HessStation]

I’m still on the Joe Douglass train fwiw. He’s doing exactly what I would have done as GM given the timing of his hire and the state of the franchise when he was hired. I’d add

3. No obvious complete busts to date yet in his first draft class. 

[Paradis]

2 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Wirfs was literally ranked higher than Becton in almost every pre draft scouting report. 

you posted a link with the first sentence being - "I had Becton ahead of Wirfs"

[HessStation]

3 minutes ago, Paradis said:

lol, put away the Cialis poncho... A+ because we needed a LT and they drafted on consensus top LT?

He faired better (already) than the last 2 combined. Yes... but that bar is so low you could throw darts blindfold at a draft board and do better... Mims is going to be a stud, but after that - it's pretty sketchy outside of Bryce Hall.

Sometimes it's who you pass on - and this draft was well stoked in rounds 3-4... we had FOUR picks.

1. A Davis
2. J. Zuniga
3. L Perine
4. J Morgan

That's mostly sh*t - and that's where the A+ GMs show their stuff. Those are the rounds you have to win. Not the gimmes in 1-2

Calling these four guys mostly sh*t is a bit...er extremely premature imo

[bla bla bla]

11 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

lol. When Mac drafted Q, it was "it fell into his lap". Same could be said about Bechton.

You cannot judge the JA trade till we see who he drafts with it.

He has made some head scratching moves so far like drafting a QB in the 4th who no one has seen and failing miserably in the WR market. 

We have a long way to go on JD. 

For what it's worth I have a source who said Becton was the pick if he was there a month before the draft happened. He also didn't really fall into our lap since we had the choice of 2 of the LTs and Douglas made the correct pick of the two.

[kevinc855]

2 minutes ago, HessStation said:

I’m still on the Joe Douglass train fwiw. He’s doing exactly what I would have done as GM given the timing of his hire and the state of the franchise when he was hired. I’d add

3. No obvious complete busts to date yet in his first draft class. 

Umm who is morgan or Davis. What are they up to 

[Rhg1084]

2 minutes ago, Paradis said:

you posted a link with the first sentence being - "I had Becton ahead of Wirfs"

He still had him ranked 1. Here’s sports illustrated rankings. They all had Wirfs ahead of Becton 

[Paradis]

4 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

He still had him ranked 1. Here’s sports illustrated rankings. They all had Wirfs ahead of Becton 

i know, i'm not really caring about this. Wirfs didn't accidentally wind up getting drafted after all 3 of the other OTs... These same jackals had Hakeem Butler as top 3 WR last year. They're not NFL scouts.

Back to the whiffs in rounds 3 and 4. That's where JD scorecard is taking hits. 

 

[Paradis]

8 minutes ago, HessStation said:

Calling these four guys mostly sh*t is a bit...er extremely premature imo

probably yea. But there was some obvious better options who've already proven why they were better. Zuniga over Duvernay was just dumb. Flat out dumb and obvious case of "chasing" a position. As as several Oline options

[HessStation]

6 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Umm who is morgan or Davis. What are they up to 

They’re both mod-late round picks and one was drafted as a back up qb and Davis has been hurt all year. 

[Beerfish]

16 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Mims is a solid WR, who will be a starter. When was the last time the Jets drafted a starter in round 2? Perine looks like he can be a contributor as well. Mann is a stud. That’s a lot from one draft class, especially when you consider the Jets history with the draft. Becton being an All Pro alone is enough to grade this draft as an A+

WAY too early to judge mims like that.  I thi9nk he could be better than just a starter but he's played like 2 whole games.

Perine looks like a complementary 2nd or 3rd back, we need a play maker.

Mann is being so massively overrated on these forums it is bewildering.

He is 18th in the league in gross punting, 25th in net punting, and 25th in downs inside the 20.  He's a good tackler though.

[Rhg1084]

2 minutes ago, Paradis said:

i know, i'm not really caring about this. Wirfs didn't accidentally wind up getting drafted after all 3 of the other OTs... These same jackals had Hakeem Butler as top 3 WR last year. They're not NFL scouts.

Back to the whiffs in rounds 3 and 4. That's where JD scorecard is taking hits. 

 

I mean show me a draft where a team hits on every pick? Lol if you can get 2 starters from one draft that’s a success. Let alone if one of them is an All Pro LT

[Rhg1084]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

WAY too early to judge mims like that.  I thi9nk he could be better than just a starter but he's played like 2 whole games.

Perine looks like a complementary 2nd or 3rd back, we need a play maker.

Mann is being so massively overrated on these forums it is bewildering.

He is 18th in the league in gross punting, 25th in net punting, and 25th in downs inside the 20.  He's a good tackler though.

 

 

[#27TheDominator]

I like Becton, but I don't think he is enough to make this draft class an A+.  The Jets have played 8 games, he's missed two and probably should have missed a third.  He probably won't play tonight either.  I like Mims too, but anybody calling this draft class a success based on his performance so far is mental.

[chirorob]

18 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Wirfs was literally ranked higher than Becton in almost every pre draft scouting report. 

He was that "Lower ceiling, higher floor" pick

[predator_05]

Just now, Beerfish said:

Quite possibly but more of this years draft class has to turn out good, not just becton.

He also made a few needless errors on draft day.

 

If you're gonna give him credit for drafting Becton, you have to criticize his decision to draft Ashtyn Davis and zuniga. 

[Rhg1084]

Just now, predator_05 said:

 

If you're gonna give him credit for drafting Becton, you have to criticize his decision to draft Ashtyn Davis and zuniga. 

So every single pick he makes has to turn out to be a great players? Show me a GM who hits on every pick 

[nycdan]

6 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

I like Becton, but I don't think he is enough to make this draft class an A+.  The Jets have played 8 games, he's missed two and probably should have missed a third.  He probably won't play tonight either.  I like Mims too, but anybody calling this draft class a success based on his performance so far is mental.

He *should* miss tonight's game.  We can't have him opening holes up for big running plays or protecting Flacco's blind side.  Nope...that won't do at all.

[Beerfish]

Just now, predator_05 said:

 

If you're gonna give him credit for drafting Becton, you have to criticize his decision to draft Ashtyn Davis and zuniga. 

I do not have an issue with Davis to a big extent, Zuniga, not as much ther though we could have gotten better players.

My big issue is the 4th round, morgan was a stupid pick imo.

Even the mims pick looks good but we could have had chase claypool if he did not trade down.

I think when all is said and done the draft overall will be a good one but could have been better.

[predator_05]

1 minute ago, Rhg1084 said:

So every single pick he makes has to turn out to be a great players? 

Not great, but useful. 

It's a results based business, of course i'll judge these guys on their results. No other way. I don't like giving sympathy for no good reason. 

[kevinc855]

22 minutes ago, HessStation said:

They’re both mod-late round picks and one was drafted as a back up qb and Davis has been hurt all year. 

Jet fans when its convienent "4th rounders are mid-late picks, dont give it to much stock"

Also Jet fans whenver JD makes a trade for a 6th rounder "Yea baby that draft capital!!"

[kevinc855]

13 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

So every single pick he makes has to turn out to be a great players? Show me a GM who hits on every pick 

considering his fire sale of talent to attain picks he better hit on most or we are screwed 

[Icer]

It's Year 2 of a tear down, rebuild. There have been some bad decisions, like drafting Morgan in the 4th and letting Robbie walk--but some of his other moves have been quite savvy. Moving off Jamal was a big PR hit, but unquestionably the right move for this team in a rebuild scenario.

It will really all depend on how well he can draft and patch some holes via FA. 

[Alka]

59 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Sure he’s had some missteps along the way. Not resigning Robby, drafting a QB in round 4. 
 

However these 2 moves alone have cemented him a great GM.

1) Drafting Mekhi Becton. This guy is an All Pro LT for next 12 years.

2) Trading Jamal for two 1s and a 3. What an absolute haul. Not to mention saving the $16m in cap space we’d have to use on him. Jamal having a lot of problems in Seattle 

Douglas is the best GM this team has had in awhile. He will make us a contender soon. 

I feel that you can not judge the pick for Morgan in the 4th round, until you get him on the field and see his level of play. After Flacco is gone, I hope that Morgan is groomed to be the backup for the starting qb for next year and beyond.  When Morgan gets his opportunity, then we will know if the Morgan pick was the right one or not.