LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 How does Kyle Trask differ from Wilson and Fields? His production and leadership seems great. Take out his Bowl performance where most of his guys opted out and he's had a pretty historic outing. Stands at 6'4, 230 lbs 4,300 yards, 43 TDs, 8 Int (3 in bowl game) Where do you guys stand on Trask? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DetroitRed Posted March 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2021 Can’t draft a guy whose name is almost trash 1 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 I don;t think he is in their league. I'd have him as about the 6th best QB prospect. The bowl game probably hurt him, people will point to that as a reason he is not an A grade guy. Was nice of these dudes to abandon their QB and let him sink because they opt out. That game put a negative tick beside Pitt's name in my books. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 I saw him throw like 10 ints in his bowl game, so yeah I think he’ll suck lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 No comparison as an athlete, very slow footed and lumbering. Will have a hard time getting away from pressure 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 I thought the same thing originally, but he is severely lacking arm strength for the deep out throws 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 If Trask can put up those numbers throwing to Pitts, Toney, and Grimes... I’d imagine Sam could put up respectable numbers throwing to them as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I don;t think he is in their league. I'd have him as about the 6th best QB prospect. The bowl game probably hurt him, people will point to that as a reason he is not an A grade guy. Was nice of these dudes to abandon their QB and let him sink because they opt out. That game put a negative tick beside Pitt's name in my books. He threw over 400 yards against two of the top defense in the country in Bama and Georgia. Something Fields didn't come close to sniffing. But to have him at 6th is fair and fits the opinion of the majority. Not that you're interested but does Toney get the same treatment as Pitt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: How does Kyle Trask differ from Wilson and Fields? His production and leadership seems great. Take out his Bowl performance where most of his guys opted out and he's had a pretty historic outing. Stands at 6'4, 230 lbs 4,300 yards, 43 TDs, 8 Int (3 in bowl game) Where do you guys stand on Trask? Nice find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 He's extremely limited. Limited athlete, limited arm. Pretty much hit his ceiling this season me thinks. He is beyond awful when facing pressure too, like, Sam Darnold bonehead type bad. Totally loses his marbles when the pocket collapses and he's a lumbering runner who hurts watching try to move. Emory Jones wont have the weapons but I think he'll make the Gators offense more dynamic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 So 5 replies in, - Lacks arms strength - Limited athlete - Cant face pressure - Cant run - Lumbering/ Slow footed - Name is almost trash If all this is true, how did the man pass for almost 4500 yards and 40+ TDs? I want to see an answer that isnt just "The system" or "Pitts". I d9nt even care about him as a prospect but I want to see a more critical analysis than the same ol talking points people use when they dont like a guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 He’s an accurate passer, I’ll give him that. In terms of arm strength, he’s an anomaly; He can throw far, but not fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, JTJet said: So 5 replies in, - Lacks arms strength - Limited athlete - Cant face pressure - Cant run - Lumbering/ Slow footed - Name is almost trash If all this is true, how did the man pass for almost 4500 yards and 40+ TDs? I want to see an answer that isnt just "The system" or "Pitts". I d9nt even care about him as a prospect but I want to see a more critical analysis than the same ol talking points people use when they dont like a guy. I'm on the same boat. It's seems everyones following the consensus and I just want someone to challenge the narrative. Kyle Pitt totaled 770 yard. Minus that from Trask and he has just as many yards as Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 hour ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: He threw over 400 yards against two of the top defense in the country in Bama and Georgia. Something Fields didn't come close to sniffing. But to have him at 6th is fair and fits the opinion of the majority. Not that you're interested but does Toney get the same treatment as Pitt? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addage Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Yet another generational QB for JD to think about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 NFL GM's are not drafting college stats. They're drafting translated skill-sets to the NFL game. Whatever he's lacking in those natural traits is what's keeping him out of the top group. I don't know enough about him but his skills can be perfect for the college game but don't translate well to the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 hours ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: Where do you guys stand on Trask? He's my preference in this draft I think. Not because he is an elite prospect, on the contrary, he is a "maybe a solid enough mid-tier NFL starter, maybe" level prospect. No, it's because he is low-risk, later-round, with a clear cut resume of success vs. mostly top competition, and he'd ready to compete at the NFL level day 1. I don't trust the top prospects this cycle to be worth what it costs to get them. So rather than reach on a very risky 2nd or 3rd QB prospect, I'd prefer to either draft a Franchise Tackle to pair with Becton, or an elite #1 overall WR prospect, or trade down only so far as to still get one of the top 3 WR prospects. Then I would take Trask in the 2nd or 3rd. And I'd go heavy Offense all throughout the draft and FA. I'd have an open competition in 20221 at QB, Darnold, Trask, Morgan. Best player playing the best wins. I appreciate how unpopular this would be with the Fans, but it's probably what I'd do. That, or I'd grit my teeth and draft Fields at #2, or Jones at #23 if he fell that far (he likely won't). I pass on Wilson 100% of the time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 51 minutes ago, JTJet said: So 5 replies in, - Lacks arms strength - Limited athlete - Cant face pressure - Cant run - Lumbering/ Slow footed - Name is almost trash If all this is true, how did the man pass for almost 4500 yards and 40+ TDs? I want to see an answer that isnt just "The system" or "Pitts". I d9nt even care about him as a prospect but I want to see a more critical analysis than the same ol talking points people use when they dont like a guy. Dan Mullen is a legit QB guru, offensive genius and the offense was loaded and I think Trask was just a really really good at executing the passing game. They had to throw throw throw some more to move the ball and make up for how terrible their defense was this season. He had the most pass attempts in all of college Football and their RB's only score 6 TD's on the season. Mullen went yolo passing the last 2 years because he couldnt run his normal playbook with Trask. Believe it or not, he was limited with his play calling but I think Trask really just mastered his passing game concept so Mullen said **** and went all out. He also had a ton of yolo balls where his guys just made plays because yes, the offense was that loaded. Pitts, Toney, Grimes had 31 combined TD's and are all going to be playmakers on Sunday. Justin Shorter, transfer from Penn St. was the #3 overall WR prospect in the country. will also play in the NFL. Jacob Copeland was also a very highly recruited player who actually turned down Bama for Florida. Trask reminds me a ton of Danny Wuerffel. Accurate, rhythm, timing passing who succeed in offense designed to score 40pts a game surrounded by NFL talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Kyle Trash pass. We already have a QB that throws interceptions for fun, and panics under pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 He's a terrible athlete with a paper airplane arm. Wouldn't touch him until the 6th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 QBs that aren't legit 5 star athletes aren't in favor anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Never heard of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 15 hours ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: I'm on the same boat. It's seems everyones following the consensus and I just want someone to challenge the narrative. Kyle Pitt totaled 770 yard. Minus that from Trask and he has just as many yards as Wilson. And now you are taking this conversation to where it really needs to go which is Kyle Pitts is the pick at 2 Pitts 7 catches for 129 and a TD facing Alabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 15 hours ago, addage said: Yet another generational QB for JD to think about. Not a huge Trask fan and clearly Kyle Pitts made him look a lot better (which is exactly why we need to draft Pitts at 2) But there is no real reason why Fields and Wilson are considered sooooooo much better other than media hype 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 7, 2021 Author Share Posted March 7, 2021 12 hours ago, Philc1 said: Not a huge Trask fan and clearly Kyle Pitts made him look a lot better (which is exactly why we need to draft Pitts at 2) But there is no real reason why Fields and Wilson are considered sooooooo much better other than media hype Trask threw for 350 yards 6 TDs, 0 Int vs Arkansas 380 yard, 3 TDs, 0 Int vs Vanderbilt 470 yards, 2 TDs, 2 Int vs LSU Without Pitts But I'm not too high on him myself but not sure why the gap is that huge bewteen the class of QBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 If Chris Sims didn't have him in his top 5 QB's then he's not a top 5 QB. Simple as that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 On 3/8/2021 at 1:53 AM, Nixhead said: If Chris Sims didn't have him in his top 5 QB's then he's not a top 5 QB. Simple as that. Simms doesn’t seem to be high on Justin Fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 On 3/8/2021 at 12:18 AM, LAD_Brooklyn said: Trask threw for 350 yards 6 TDs, 0 Int vs Arkansas 380 yard, 3 TDs, 0 Int vs Vanderbilt 470 yards, 2 TDs, 2 Int vs LSU Without Pitts But I'm not too high on him myself but not sure why the gap is that huge bewteen the class of QBs. Pitts will make any qb look good in the nfl. A 6-6 guy who’s fast, has length, ball skills, runs excellent routes and is smart. It should be fun watching Ashtyn Davis try to cover him when he’s on Miami? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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