neckdemon Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Besides AR getting injured… S is portably the worst papa took we could get an injury bc it’s hands down our weakest unit. Luckily we hurried up and signed Amos. But Amos and Whitehead is still a below average group with no depth. By far the position group that can hinder us this season if we don’t game plan better on defense to hide our Ss coverage weaknesses. unless you have an ed reed level player in the position safety is one of the least impactful posiitons on a football team 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, neckdemon said: unless you have an ed reed level player in the position safety is one of the least impactful posiitons on a football team That's a very general statement though. You're taking out what the other personnel is. You honestly think teams aren't going to attack Amos and Whitehead instead of Sauce, Reed and MC2? So your statement is true if it's an average defense and teams aren't trying to avoid arguably the best CB starting unit in the league. But since we have those 3 at CB, you can bet our Ss will be attacked WAY MORE than an average defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 7 hours ago, Jet2020 said: If football gods existed, Mahomes would’ve been a Jet. There are no football gods. Mahomes would have played behind an awful OL, had Adam Gase as his HC, no Travis Kelcie, no Hill, no Hunt. He would have been better than what we had but not the mega star he has become. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Not good. Clark was supposed to really improve the safety position. Good luck to him and hope his injury is resolved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokiejetfan92 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 I was hyped to see a hokie get a chance to play for us. He was a late draft pick but was always really solid and versatileSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, oatmeal said: After our exchange, This situation…. ironic dont you think mr 12-5? 🤔 I don’t think you know what irony is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viffer Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 8 hours ago, Jet2020 said: If football gods existed, Mahomes would’ve been a Jet. There are no football gods. The football gods are the reason we haven't won a Super Bowl in over half a century... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I don’t think you know what irony is? Nope I clearly don’t I guess but regardless watch what you say, we are the New York Jets until proven otherwise. That day will come but it hasn’t yet, kapeesh? And for clarity because this is sooo hard for some here to grasp: to criticize dont = we want the team to fail and not have success. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, oatmeal said: Nope I clearly don’t I guess but regardless watch what you say, we are the New York Jets until proven otherwise. That day will come but it hasn’t yet, kapeesh? And for clarity because this is sooo hard for some here to grasp: to criticize dont = we want the team to fail and not have success. Enjoy the season! 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 53 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Mahomes would have played behind an awful OL, had Adam Gase as his HC, no Travis Kelcie, no Hill, no Hunt. He would have been better than what we had but not the mega star he has become. And no Andy Reid 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 I guess the silver lining is it happened before camp and Amos will have a chance to learn the defense. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, neckdemon said: unless you have an ed reed level player in the position safety is one of the least impactful posiitons on a football team No one even heard of chuck clark a few months ago and now we are in trouble cause hes injured. Jet fans…………… 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Hate when this happens. Hope it's not serious. May be an opportunity for the LSU draft pick (Jarrick Bernard-Converse) to get a chance at the position. Also the UDFA from Florida (Trey Dean) gets more of an opportunity. Also wonder if they will bring Parks back too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, CTJetsFan said: Hate when this happens. Hope it's not serious. May be an opportunity for the LSU draft pick (Jarrick Bernard-Converse) to get a chance at the position. Also the UDFA from Florida (Trey Dean) gets more of an opportunity. Also wonder if they will bring Parks back too. JBC is someone to keep an eye on, as someone who watches a lot of LSU football imo he was their best and most dependable DB last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 14 hours ago, 32EBoozer said: Ashtyn Davis lives to see another day Davis the the Ryan Fitzpatrick of Safeties. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: I don’t think you know what irony is? "NY Jets" irony is special. Like signing one of the league's "never-injured" iron men and promptly losing him for the season.Maybe it's not irony but instead just an unholy curse. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 hours ago, viffer said: The football gods are the reason we haven't won a Super Bowl in over half a century... I thought it was guys like Idzik, Maccagnan, Gase, Kotite... with a little help from Doug Brien that caused that. Hardly Football gods. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 4 hours ago, neckdemon said: unless you have an ed reed level player in the position safety is one of the least impactful posiitons on a football team We dont all agree 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 4 hours ago, More Cowbell said: Mahomes would have played behind an awful OL, had Adam Gase as his HC, no Travis Kelcie, no Hill, no Hunt. He would have been better than what we had but not the mega star he has become. Todd Bowles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: No one even heard of chuck clark a few months ago and now we are in trouble cause hes injured. Jet fans…………… Wtf are you on about? My quote literally downplays the safety position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, jetspenguin said: We dont all agree That's why we got rid of that fool because he was worth more in the picks we could get than actually having him on the field 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Bobby816 said: That's a very general statement though. You're taking out what the other personnel is. You honestly think teams aren't going to attack Amos and Whitehead instead of Sauce, Reed and MC2? So your statement is true if it's an average defense and teams aren't trying to avoid arguably the best CB starting unit in the league. But since we have those 3 at CB, you can bet our Ss will be attacked WAY MORE than an average defense. This doesn't change the fact that safety is still one of the least impactful positions on the field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, jetspenguin said: He’s so gross 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, neckdemon said: This doesn't change the fact that safety is still one of the least impactful positions on the field When the offense is picking on them. Yes they're impactful; in a negative way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Injuries happen to every team - throughout the year...stop whining. stop blaming it on so called "jinx" Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Colts’ rookie fifth-round pick, safety Daniel Scott, tore his ACL on the last play of OTA’s last week and was placed on the Injured Reserve list today, per source. Scott is now out for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrebetOverKeyshawn Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 19 hours ago, frankiepapa said: Had to happen last week... how did this fall through the cracks? Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk My thoughts exactly, wonder if maybe it’s something that he didn’t feel right away? We immediately heard when other players got banged up and had to walk off with trainers. The fact they stated nothing is official and he’s getting a second opinion could be a sliver of hope, overall very odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Bobby816 said: When the offense is picking on them. Yes they're impactful; in a negative way. every team has weaknesses. if your weakness is at safety thats just about the best weakness you can ask for. much easier to work around a weakness at safety as opposed to almost anywhere else 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 11 hours ago, Bobby816 said: Besides AR getting injured… S is portably the worst papa took we could get an injury bc it’s hands down our weakest unit. Luckily we hurried up and signed Amos. But Amos and Whitehead is still a below average group with no depth. By far the position group that can hinder us this season if we don’t game plan better on defense to hide our Ss coverage weaknesses. I don't think I could disagree more. Our safety group is not that great, but that just means the drop off is not that big a deal. The difference between Clark and say, Will Parks, is negligible compared to the monumental drop off between even Max Mitchell and Remmers. As long as we don't lose a stud it will be easy enough to plug somebody in there and I think that Adams is better than people are giving him credit. We have also cross-trained the corners a ton to play safety, so I think guys like MC2, Guidry, Echols and Moreland will be able to cover some snaps too. Besides, maybe Pinnock will become available again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: I don't think I could disagree more. Our safety group is not that great, but that just means the drop off is not that big a deal. The difference between Clark and say, Will Parks, is negligible compared to the monumental drop off between even Max Mitchell and Remmers. As long as we don't lose a stud it will be easy enough to plug somebody in there and I think that Adams is better than people are giving him credit. We have also cross-trained the corners a ton to play safety, so I think guys like MC2, Guidry, Echols and Moreland will be able to cover some snaps too. Besides, maybe Pinnock will become available again. I’m not at all saying S is hugely important. In fact I think the opposite. My point is that teams no question will attack our Ss bc of our CB play. It’s by far our biggest weakness starter wise. Which makes any spot you’re getting attacked at that much more of an issue. Let’s say you have 3 pro bowl OLineman at LT, LG and C. Your RG is below average and so is your RT. Where do you think teams are sending pressure? So on paper your OL looks good bc you have 3 pro bowlers there. But really there’s a big weakness there. This applies to our defense. Our secondary bc of Sauce, Reed and MC2 along with our DL looks great. But in reality we have a weakness at S. You think OCs don’t know this if us fans know this? So I fully expect our S group to get attacked in the air A LOT. It’s up to them to show they’re up to the challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Its like meeting the man of your dreams. And then meeting his beautiful wife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Blake Cashman cost more then chuck clark in a trade. We upgraded by signing Amos. Rejoice Jet fans!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeCantDraftGoodQBs Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Every preseason I am excited for us but I also wait to see who is going to get hurt during preseason, but I don't remember a lot of guys getting hurt prior to preseason. Of course, I am getting up there in years so my memory isn't what it once was so maybe there were a lot of our guys getting hurt in June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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