slimjasi Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 What are your thoughts on Boyle starting over Trevor Siemian? I had gotten the distinct impression from Saleh's comments over the past couple of months that this coaching staff likes Boyle more than Siemian. Well, now that has been confirmed as Boyle is starting this week. However, it's hard not to look at Boyle's past performances and be extremely concerned. Boyle's career numbers are hilariously bad (both college and pro) and he didn't even score in garbage time on Sunday like almost every backup QB does in that situation. The flip side is that he did have a good preseason (outplayed Zach pretty comfortably). And, of course, we know Boyle is an AROD groupie - which is probably the key factor. Head coach Aaron Rodgers probably thinks Boyle gives us the best chance to win. But my question to you is - Are you happy with Boyle playing over Siemian? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted November 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2023 Approve. Royal Boyle has been the number 2 all year. You dont just have the 3rd stringer jump the 2nd stringer for no reason. Royal Boyle has earned this shot. He leash will not be long but hes the guy on friday. Season is over anyway so it really doesnt matter. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, Joe W. Namath said: Approve. Royal Boyle has been the number 2 all year. You dont just have the 3rd stringer jump the 2nd stringer for no reason. Royal Boyle has earned this shot. He leash will not be long but hes the guy on friday. Season is over anyway so it really doesnt matter. Right, but I'm really asking if you agree with the bolded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 I don't think it matters either way. We're cooked. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 I actually like the fact that they're giving this kid a shot, knowing that he probably will be terrible. They know the season is over and I assume they give him a chance, unless he completely is embarrassing Friday. If that happens then I think they ride Siemian the rest of the season in order to pick up wins, which would be a real good defense for Saleh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PS17 Posted November 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2023 For winning purposes, it’s a stupid move. Boyle should not be in the NFL. Maybe shouldn’t even be in the CFL. At this point I’d rather secure a top ten pick so why not. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Why does it matter? Season is over. Might as well give Boyle reps to see what he's got. Maybe he can develop into a serviceable backup. That's been the worst part of all this. We've had 3 QBs for weeks whose ceilings are: Boyle: decent #2 Siemian: decent #2 Wilson: decent sideline reporter for Nickelodeon. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, PS17 said: For winning purposes, it’s a stupid move. Boyle should not be in the NFL. Maybe shouldn’t even be in the CFL. At this point I’d rather secure a top ten pick so why not. haha, indeed. Well, I think the Jets are trying to win games . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, JetPotato said: Why does it matter? Season is over. Might as well give Boyle reps to see what he's got. Maybe he can develop into a serviceable backup. Dunno how much more there is to “develop” with a 29 year old QB, but hey, why not. lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 I voted no. Semian has had some decent numbers as an NFL QB. Boyle is trash and probably shouldn't be on an NFL roster. I guess it really doesn't matter as the team has quit and the ship is sinking. Again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 No, it should be Siemian but they both suck, by design. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 To "the season is over "crowd: You're wrong. Sure, we aren't going anywhere. But the season isn't over. We have 7 games left, including two more games on national TV (oh joy!). If Saleh loses his last 10 games and goes from 4-3 to 4-13, do you honestly think he's guaranteed to return? I don't. Owner Aaron Rodgers might be pissed enough to do something drastic like promote his buddy OC. NYJ Rule of Thumb: Things can ALWAYS get worse. Always. We also have a very young roster (particularly on offense) and I think these games matter for those guys. These games matter and not being embarrassed on a weekly basis is important. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Cmon guys. everything about this offense sucks, including both of these scrubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornfed Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 A third string qb who was third behind Zach Wilson or dude who was out of the league who we picked up, left on practice squad, and wasn’t claimed by anyone else. I’m gonna guess either choice will lead to the same result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 To "the season is over "crowd: You're wrong. Sure, we aren't going anywhere. But the season isn't over. We have 7 games left, including two more games on national TV (oh joy!). If Saleh loses his last 10 games and goes from 4-3 to 4-13, do you honestly think he's guaranteed to return? I don't. Owner Aaron Rodgers might be pissed enough to do something drastic like promote his buddy OC. NYJ Rule of Thumb: Things can ALWAYS get worse. Always. We also have a very young roster (particularly on offense) and I think these games matter for those guys. These games matter and not being embarrassed on a weekly basis is important. Maybe they are low key tanking with Boyle in order to somehow snag Marvin Harrison. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted November 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2023 I think it's ridiculous that the CS can't get Semen up to speed on enough of the playbook by now to start him over Boyle. Boyle is not a guy that should be in NFL games. He's fine to bring in as a 3rd stringer who knows the offense and can help bring others up to speed but never should be your starter. Something is dysfunctional with this front office/cs. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted November 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2023 Yes. I agree w/ Boyle over Siemian because he's been here since camp. He's had way more time to get to know the locker room, develop rapport, digest the playbook, etc. Fwiw, I feel it's deserved and I'd to see what he has, while I know everyone is convinced he sucks after that huge sample size on Sunday, I saw a QB that was quick w/ and knew where to go w/ the ball, so I'm kind of interested in seeing what he's got for a half. If it's bad, I assume that's why Siemian was elevated the #2 spot. So yes, start Boyle, give him a chance and have Siemian ready to go if it's bad. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Wit said: Maybe they are low key tanking with Boyle in order to somehow snag Marvin Harrison. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app If I believed that, I'd respect it. But I don't. I think they are trying to win games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, JiF said: Yes. I agree w/ Boyle over Siemian because he's been here since camp. He's had way more time to get to know the locker room, develop rapport, digest the playbook, etc. Fwiw, I feel it's deserved and I'd to see what he has, while I know everyone is convinced he sucks after that huge sample size on Sunday, I saw a QB that was quick w/ and knew where to go w/ the ball, so I'm kind of interested in seeing what he's got for a half. If it's bad, I assume that's why Siemian was elevated the #2 spot. So yes, start Boyle, give him a chance and have Siemian ready to go if it's bad. fwiw I was convinced he sucks before Sunday. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, JiF said: Yes. I agree w/ Boyle over Siemian because he's been here since camp. He's had way more time to get to know the locker room, develop rapport, digest the playbook, etc. Fwiw, I feel it's deserved and I'd to see what he has, while I know everyone is convinced he sucks after that huge sample size on Sunday, I saw a QB that was quick w/ and knew where to go w/ the ball, so I'm kind of interested in seeing what he's got for a half. If it's bad, I assume that's why Siemian was elevated the #2 spot. So yes, start Boyle, give him a chance and have Siemian ready to go if it's bad. Best argument for Boyle I have seen yet. Thank you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, slimjasi said: What are your thoughts on Boyle starting over Trevor Siemian? I had gotten the distinct impression from Saleh's comments over the past couple of months that this coaching staff likes Boyle more than Siemian. Well, now that has been confirmed as Boyle is starting this week. However, it's hard not to look at Boyle's past performances and be extremely concerned. Boyle's career numbers are hilariously bad (both college and pro) and he didn't even score in garbage time on Sunday like almost every backup QB does in that situation. The flip side is that he did have a good preseason (outplayed Zach pretty comfortably). And, of course, we know Boyle is an AROD groupie - which is probably the key factor. Head coach Aaron Rodgers probably thinks Boyle gives us the best chance to win. But my question to you is - Are you happy with Boyle playing over Siemian? My left nut over Zach Wilson starting another game so yeah this is fine too. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, Barry McCockinner said: fwiw I was convinced he sucks before Sunday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, slimjasi said: To "the season is over "crowd: You're wrong. Sure, we aren't going anywhere. But the season isn't over. We have 7 games left, including two more games on national TV (oh joy!). If Saleh loses his last 10 games and goes from 4-3 to 4-13, do you honestly think he's guaranteed to return? I don't. Owner Aaron Rodgers might be pissed enough to do something drastic like promote his buddy OC. NYJ Rule of Thumb: Things can ALWAYS get worse. Always. We also have a very young roster (particularly on offense) and I think these games matter for those guys. These games matter and not being embarrassed on a weekly basis is important. The season is over as far as realistically making the playoffs which this team hasn't done in 12 years. Neither Boyle or Simian is going to get this team to anywhere near 9 or 10 wins. 6-11 here we come, so yes the season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 No But it is what it is I'm done trying to make sense of what these geniuses are up to.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Boyle is a career backup who was our 3rd stringer coming in. Siemien has been a starter in this league with mixed success. I would roll with Trevor but he’s not Aaron’s friend and we all know who is running this team. Saleh is a defensive puppet at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Dunno how much more there is to “develop” with a 29 year old QB, but hey, why not. lol. To be fair some people are still virgins at 29 so the potential for growth is there in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: fwiw I was convinced he sucks before Sunday. Exactly and so does Siemian, so idk, like just do the right thing to loyal Boyle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Seriously who gives a crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, Claymation said: Seriously who gives a crap. I do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Team Boyle simply because he's he's earned a shot by being the #2 all season. If he falls on his face, Siemian can take over. JD already punted the season by not having a legit insurance policy for Rodgers, so choosing between these two stiffs is completely arbitrary. The fact that these two are the current options is a terrible indictment of JD's handling of this team. Shameful. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said: The season is over as far as realistically making the playoffs which this team hasn't done in 12 years. Neither Boyle or Simian is going to get this team to anywhere near 9 or 10 wins. 6-11 here we come, so yes the season is over. Yes, I acknowledged that we aren't going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 No but still, if it means no Zach I'm happy. Either way I doubt Boyle will have a long leash. I almost feel like he's getting the nod out of some sense of loyalty. If he struggles though, I don't think they'll hesitate to pull the plug on him. OT, and I'm sure this would be stupid, but I almost still want to see Rodgers play this year even if we're out of it. I need to know just how much of our sh*t offense is due to the OL and how much is due to the QB. If Rodgers comes in and we still can't do anything, then OK....I'm more open to spending our 1st on an OT. If he comes in though and we start easily putting up 20-30 points....yeah....go get him a WR. They'll never risk his injury though in meaningless games. Still, would be nice to know before heading into the offseason. Hopefully Boyle or Siemian surprise me though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Crusher said: My left nut over Zach Wilson starting another game so yeah this is fine too. But left nut or right nut - which one would you give up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, JiF said: Exactly and so does Siemian, so idk, like just do the right thing to loyal Boyle! Semen can play at a backup QB level. Boyle doesn't belong in the league. I think this team can win games with backup QB level play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biggs Posted November 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2023 Boyle has good chemistry with Lazzard, Cobb and Hackett. This is a no brainer, Siemian. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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