Zach Wilson will be missed

[Hex]

2 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

I also ignore 9 out of 10 performances when evaluating people....

 

This is Zach, folks. If it was the other way around and the majority of his games were above average with the occasional stinker, we'd all be ok with it. But that isn't the reality. 

 

Just move on, people.

Nobody misses Geno here, despite the success he has had with the Seahawks. Even if Zach does end up playing well somewhere else, people shouldn't miss him. He got 3 seasons here and flashed maybe 3 or 4 times. He's never going to be successful here.

[More Cowbell]

1 hour ago, JetsRay said:

Zach Wilson is proving you all wrong!

Today was a day that he showed he has all the tools and can be good NFL QB. 

It was one game, but he has improved this year, he's growing, he's maturing, he's gaining confidence, and he's learning how to be balanced between not thinking too much but making good decision...

Today showed there is still a chance of a Zach Wilson future!

Good for him, good for the Jets. We aren't done this year yet!

[Maxman]

Let's have Zach put up the same numbers against the Dolphins, without any fumbles before the thought of high stepping even starts to form.

[Nixhead]

Last I checked Zach is on contract with the Jets for 1 more season so he's not going anywhere unless some team steps up and offers the Jets a no brainer pick. With a decent O line and a good offensive coordinator Zach will be todays Zach every week - so do the Jets get rid of Zach or improve the O line and get a good coordinator?

[Jetsplayer21]

Just now, Maxman said:

Let's have Zach put up the same numbers against the Dolphins, without any fumbles before the thought of high stepping even starts to form.

Even the worst of nfl qbs have the rare good games. What’s Zach’s average over 3 years, 1 good game for every 10? To be a NFL starter, you have to be MUCH better than that. He has never had back to back good games. 

[Hex]

5 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

Even the worst of nfl qbs have the rare good games. What’s Zach’s average over 3 years, 1 good game for every 10? To be a NFL starter, you have to be MUCH better than that. He has never had back to back good games. 

Jamarcus Russell literally never had a good game. Not only did he never throw for 3 TDs, he also never threw for 300 yards, which Zach has done 3 or 4 times now. And I considered other stats when analysing him too.

[varjet]

13 minutes ago, Maxman said:

Let's have Zach put up the same numbers against the Dolphins, without any fumbles before the thought of high stepping even starts to form.

The NFL is all about coaching.  The Texans did not have enough tape against the new Zach game plan.  Let Vic Fangio look at this week's tape and let's see how Zach 5.0 plays against the Dolphins.  

[Jetsplayer21]

7 minutes ago, Hex said:

Jamarcus Russell literally never had a good game. Not only did he never throw for 3 TDs, he also never threw for 300 yards, which Zach has done 3 or 4 times now. And I considered other stats when analysing him too.

So he’s a step up from Jamarcus Russell, he must be proud lol. CJ stroud will likely finish with more tds in his first season than Zach has for career. 

[Maxman]

3 minutes ago, varjet said:

The NFL is all about coaching.  The Texans did not have enough tape against the new Zach game plan.  Let Vic Fangio look at this week's tape and let's see how Zach 5.0 plays against the Dolphins.  

You suggesting that Hackett won't call the good plays next week?

[T0mShane]

17 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

Even the worst of nfl qbs have the rare good games. What’s Zach’s average over 3 years, 1 good game for every 10? To be a NFL starter, you have to be MUCH better than that. He has never had back to back good games. 

Zach has gone over 300 yards passing in three games. He’s never had a three TD game, but has had two TD passes in six of his 33 games played.

[extmenace]

18 minutes ago, Nixhead said:

Last I checked Zach is on contract with the Jets for 1 more season so he's not going anywhere unless some team steps up and offers the Jets a no brainer pick. With a decent O line and a good offensive coordinator Zach will be todays Zach every week - so do the Jets get rid of Zach or improve the O line and get a good coordinator?

Zach’s “eff it” mind set / not getting to that point until now is what’s been holding him back. Maybe a lot of the over thinking and scared play has to do with the coaching staff forcing him to play scared, maybe it’s not but a good qb will produce in most systems. Great systems will get great results. You can only blame the OC so much. Zach hasn’t looked the part and really outside of today and maybe 2 or 3 other times, has looked lost. 

[Dunnie]

So he’s a step up from Jamarcus Russell, he must be proud lol. CJ stroud will likely finish with more tds in his first season than Zach has for career. 

CJ looked pedestrian today .. just sayin'

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[Dunnie]

Zach’s “eff it” mind set / not getting to that point until now is what’s been holding him back. Maybe a lot of the over thinking and scared play has to do with the coaching staff forcing him to play scared, maybe it’s not but a good qb will produce in most systems. Great systems will get great results. You can only blame the OC so much. Zach hasn’t looked the part and really outside of today and maybe 2 or 3 other times, has looked lost. 

Nah .. I've been saying all along ... It's lack of coaching and defensive scared to lose coaching. We'll see ... It's just one game right now ... But absolutely a step in the right direction.

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[jetstream23]

[Sperm Edwards]

17 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Zach has gone over 300 yards passing in three games. He’s never had a three TD game, but has had two TD passes in six of his 33 games played.

He’s been a 3-year embarrassment, but he did have one 3-TD game. First 3 possessions against the Eagles as a rookie.

One time, two ****ing years ago, and we still lost) anyway.

[Alka]

1 hour ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

I also ignore 9 out of 10 performances when evaluating people....

 

This is Zach, folks. If it was the other way around and the majority of his games were above average with the occasional stinker, we'd all be ok with it. But that isn't the reality. 

 

Just move on.

Is that how you evaluated Geno Smith?   He had 9 out of 10 bad performances.  

[Jet_Engine1]

4 minutes ago, Alka said:

Is that how you evaluated Geno Smith?   He had 9 out of 10 bad performances.  

Seriously? I was definitely Team IK.

 

And 9/10 as a percentile, not defined set....

[T0mShane]

12 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

He’s been a 3-year embarrassment, but he did have one 3-TD game. First 3 possessions against the Eagles as a rookie.

One time, two ****ing years ago, and we still lost) anyway.

Ah. I wasn’t counting the rushing TDs. 

[Jetsplayer21]

42 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

CJ looked pedestrian today .. just sayin'

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Lol. The kid hasn’t even finished his 1st yr, and almost has as many TDs as Zach has for his career. So obviously the AVERAGE of “ who is pedestrian “ looking at those 2 head to head, isn’t even close. Before today - 

[JetsRay]

1 hour ago, faba said:

Yeah one good game vs a career of terrible performances =seems equal

He's had multiple good games this year, and there have been some bad games. But not all the losses or the offensive problems were his fault.

 

[Sammybighead]

He will not be missed because if he plays another 4 games like this, he's under contract and they don't trade him.

HUGE "if". Being a good qb means consistency. 

[funaz]

He will not be missed because if he plays another 4 games like this, he's under contract and they don't trade him.
HUGE "if". Being a good qb means consistency. 

He is gone regardless so f how he plays.zach is the worst qb I’ve seen for the jets regardless of these last few games.


Good bye sh*t stain suck it f a qb Zach


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[jetstream23]

I think he will end up on the Rams for a third day pick this Spring.

[Dunnie]

Lol. The kid hasn’t even finished his 1st yr, and almost has as many TDs as Zach has for his career. So obviously the AVERAGE of “ who is pedestrian “ looking at those 2 head to head, isn’t even close. Before today - 
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91 yds / 54.8 passer rating.... pedestrian today ... Like I said.

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[T0mShane]

4 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

I think he will end up on the Rams for a third day pick this Spring.

LaFleur would kill McVay first. More likely Steve Young engineers a trade to the Niners

[Jetsplayer21]

1 hour ago, extmenace said:

Zach’s “eff it” mind set / not getting to that point until now is what’s been holding him back. Maybe a lot of the over thinking and scared play has to do with the coaching staff forcing him to play scared, maybe it’s not but a good qb will produce in most systems. Great systems will get great results. You can only blame the OC so much. Zach hasn’t looked the part and really outside of today and maybe 2 or 3 other times, has looked lost. 

He can’t play horribly EVERY game lol. I think benching him, threat of benching him, has helped. Look at all the talk before chiefs game. That they were very close to putting him on bench then, losing locker room, etc. Played game of his life. Still lost, but I can’t get on him. Just like you can’t give him credit for the Wins D carried him, when he didn’t play well. 

[Jetsplayer21]

2 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

91 yds / 54.8 passer rating.... pedestrian today ... Like I said.

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Ohh today, I thought you meant how he is usually  because “ usually “ he is a good qb. Just as “ usually “ Zach is a bad qb. But why we have stats, and look on years and careers

[Beerfish]

Zach wont be missed at all unless he goes some place and plays great.

I'll say one thing after every thing that has come with him Rodgers better be amazingly good when he plays.  Anything less than pro bowl level and it will be an utter fail.

[Warfish]

Has anyone said what he'll be doing to make us miss him yet?

[Same Old Jets]

8 hours ago, Fantasy Island said:

Have some respect for your Momma! 

[Dunnie]

Ohh today, I thought you meant how he is usually  because “ usually “ he is a good qb. Just as “ usually “ Zach is a bad qb. But why we have stats, and look on years and careers

Exactly.. my guess is Stroud comes back to earth at some point next year. We'll see .. it's rare for a rookie to sustain success like he has had in e the league catches up.



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[Anthony Jet]

10 hours ago, shuler82 said:

Kept talking about his first three years here in the past tense    Felt like he’s already moved on 

And people said he just can’t get it…

[Anthony Jet]

Best thing that can happen is Zach plays well. Maybe we can recoup some assets in a offseason trade. 
 

I was very patient with my expectations with ZW, and I like the kid. But his time here is done. He couldn’t get it done here. Would be a great separation if he plays well and the Jets recover some decent picks. 
 

if he blossom elsewhere so be it at this point. Seems like it’s never happening here in this environment and maybe this coaching staff 

[shawn306]

Andy Reid will give the Jets a 6th round pick so he can back up Mahomes and they won't skip a beat if he has to play.

[Ghost]

8 hours ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

Lol. The kid hasn’t even finished his 1st yr, and almost has as many TDs as Zach has for his career. So obviously the AVERAGE of “ who is pedestrian “ looking at those 2 head to head, isn’t even close. Before today - 

Who gives a sh*t how his career started. Wilson clearly needs coaching. He is clearly talented. The issue has always the systems he plays in and his confidence. 
 

I will not let him go.