extmenace Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 26 minutes ago, Warfish said: Isn't it funny how much better a guy can look when everything that counts for the team (like any real-world chance at the postseason) is long gone, but something very personal (a reported promise to be traded this offseason, a way to try and continue his career) remains on the line? I don’t think that was it. This was the first game he’s played where the pressure was completely off. No playoffs, no future here, no care. Nobody behind him to worry about. Came in with nothing to lose. Even in his presser, something looked different. Not saying it’ll last but maybe in this senecio, he finally got out of his head. Is this a one game thing or finally the turning point? who knows but playing with the pressure off allowed him to play his best game as a pro today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 ZW hasn’t been perfect this year but the bigger issues have been injuries to the OL and penalties. Which then resulted the coaching to go in a shell. That helps nobody. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I don't think he was good all along. I didn't want Zach back on this team this year and want him gone next year. I like you better when you're being honest. 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I just found it interesting that you seemed to think the problem with Zach all along was just motivation. Nope. 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: At least that's what I took from that post. Desperation and a light at the end of a tunnel can do wonders for some folks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post football guy Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 31 minutes ago, FootballLove said: LOL...what happened to "We need a CEO HC who coaches the WHOLE team dammit" All for a CEO head coach. I just hope Saleh looks in the mirror and realizes that playing ultra conservative football behind a poor offensive line doesn’t work. “All gas no break” needs to be the mentality on defense AND offense, regardless who the QB is. 10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat999 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 43 minutes ago, jamesr said: Maybe they told hm to do so before ... and he didn't? Interesting in the SNY post game interview with Zach the writers asked him about the throw where Becton whiffed and Zach scrambled to avoid pressure only to throw a dart over the middle to GW. Zach said something like the coaches told him never to try that kind of throw, but he thought it was worth the risk and he has to take some chances for big plays knowing they won't always work out. Sounds like Zach is growing some b**ls and and maybe with some encouragement from Saleh is starting to take matters into his own hands 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, extmenace said: I don’t think that was it. This was the first game he’s played where the pressure was completely off. No playoffs, no future here, no care. Nobody behind him to worry about. Came in with nothing to lose. Even in his presser, something looked different. Not saying it’ll last but maybe in this senecio, he finally got out of his head. Is this a one game thing or finally the turning point? who knows but playing with the pressure off allowed him to play his best game as a pro today. Saleh has been killing him for weeks. Zach got tired of it and turned Saleh into his b*tch this week. Changed everything. The team loves him now. They played their butts off on both sides of the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jdeet Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 I never lost faith. 😂 6 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Truth Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 let it rip zach! oh also we are indeed trading you in the off season!He plays well down the stretch, that’s not happening. He will be the backup againSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 I wonder if Giants fans were like this after DeVito won two in a row. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 57 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: This is, without fail, the same exact narrative this bullsh*t universe fed us about the last 6 quarterbacks. The last 6 QBs could not hit some of the throws that Wilson can given the opportunity. I hope he has a big game against Miami next week just to see the board lose its mind. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 57 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: In my mind, the decision is pretty simple with Zach. You do not pick up the fifth year option. You try to trade him in the spring. But if the offers aren’t there and you’re talking about something like a late third day pick, just keep him for the fourth season as the QB2. He has absolutely shown he could be a backup quarterback. Draft a decent middle round prospect to develop next year as QB3. He has? This offense has been one of the worst in NFL history. The QB has a lot to do with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpain Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Amazing how different a team can play with the lead. Something we havent seen in 3 seasons. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jdeet said: I never lost faith. 😂 Good job. Well done. Good for you. Sweet action. The toughest of the 3 legs was “Wilson 2+ TD’s”, because these totally garbage coaches on the Offense RARELY let the Kid throw the ball into the end zone. I think there have been MULTIPLE times this season where they were “1st and Goal at the 1”, and they ran 4 straight times and couldn’t score, but I could be wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, cat999 said: Interesting in the SNY post game interview with Zach the writers asked him about the throw where Becton whiffed and Zach scrambled to avoid pressure only to throw a dart over the middle to GW. Zach said something like the coaches told him never to try that kind of throw, but he thought it was worth the risk and he has to take some chances for big plays knowing they won't always work out. Sounds like Zach is growing some b**ls and and maybe with some encouragement from Saleh is starting to take matters into his own hands 12 minutes ago, Biggs said: Saleh has been killing him for weeks. Zach got tired of it and turned Saleh into his b*tch this week. Changed everything. The team loves him now. They played their butts off on both sides of the ball. I have nothing to back this up but my hunch is that Zach stood up for himself in that whole "reluctant to play" discussion and Saleh finally agreed to let him play more aggressively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Jetpain said: Amazing how different a team can play with the lead. Something we havent seen in 3 seasons. Umm could that be on the Offensive “coaches”? (Rhetorical question). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I wonder if Giants fans were like this after DeVito won two in a row. I wonder if Devito told Daboll he didn't want to play and Daboll agreed to trade him if he played? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 All these threads are gonna be funny if he sucks next week. But Wilson truthers seem to have a humiliation kink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I wonder if Giants fans were like this after DeVito won two in a row. Anti Zachers were sure doing it.......right? Devito is god! As is Boyle! And Minshew! 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Zach’s average air yards per attempt was 6.8, narrowly edging out Bailey Zappe’s 6.6. But, yes, let it rip. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: All these threads are gonna be funny if he sucks next week. But Wilson truthers seem to have a humiliation kink. The Wilson haters are Saleh suck up's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bicketybam Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 Zach’s average air yards per attempt was 6.8, narrowly edging out Bailey Zappe’s 6.6. But, yes, let it rip.. 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Biggs said: The Wilson haters are Saleh suck up's. Saleh stinks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Anti Zachers were sure doing it.......right? Devito is god! As is Boyle! And Minshew! 😎 I think Minshew has been able to string 2 games together before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BP Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 This is the first time in forever the jets have played with a lead. This is why not playing pussy ball works. It’s easier for him to play and manage the game with a lead. They went like 9 games in a row without scoring points in the first half. ”if they can’t score we can’t lose” -Saleh the idiot 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 49 minutes ago, Larz said: Didn’t you have a giant hissy fit defending Zach and now you are doing the hater thing? You have zero credibility bro I'm not doing a hater thing. Strange take there. I think it would be very difficult for Zach to succeed here....The press and fan base don't like him - and rolling him out there would be a disaster. I said it last off-season too. I was proven right. Zach let's that sh*t get to him. If he were drafted to a team and fan base that supported him things might have been different. Maybe not, but I'm interested how he does when he gets a fresh start somewhere else. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 What do we think makes sense for a Zach contract extension? 4/100? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Anti Zachers were sure doing it.......right? Devito is god! As is Boyle! And Minshew! 😎 DeVito is a god though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 48 minutes ago, Warfish said: I like you better when you're being honest. 54 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Go look back if you want - but I thought it was crazy to keep him here this year - I was clear about that. Mostly because he clearly allowed the toxicity of the fan base to get to him and affect his performance. JD should have seen it too. It's going to take a special kind of kid to be able to deal with toxicity and thrive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: DeVito is a god though Are you still exhausted? Or do you feel up to 4 asterisks in the game thread next week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 51 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I have nothing to back this up but my hunch is that Zach stood up for himself in that whole "reluctant to play" discussion and Saleh finally agreed to let him play more aggressively. That’s exactly what happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Go look back if you want - but I thought it was crazy to keep him here this year - I was clear about that. Mostly because he clearly allowed the toxicity of the fan base to get to him and affect his performance. JD should have seen it too. It's going to take a special kind of kid to be able to deal with toxicity and thrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, BP said: Are you still exhausted? Or do you feel up to 4 asterisks in the game thread next week? You do it next week. You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 34 minutes ago, BP said: This is the first time in forever the jets have played with a lead. This is why not playing pussy ball works. It’s easier for him to play and manage the game with a lead. They went like 9 games in a row without scoring points in the first half. ”if they can’t score we can’t lose” -Saleh the idiot Yeah, you’re right, Saleh doesn’t want to play with a lead. The fact that some of you can’t separate “managing around an awful QB” vs “game planning to have a bad offense on purpose” is laughable. This defense is literally built to play with a lead. We just never have one because the offense sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Shame we don't have a 2nd round pick. I don't know a lot about him - but like what I've read. Seems to a late 2nd rounder. A bit of a raw 2nd round project that can sit behind Rodgers for a year or two. Sign me up for this kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets and Redskins Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Shame we don't have a 2nd round pick. I don't know a lot about him - but like what I've read. Seems to a late 2nd rounder. A bit of a raw 2nd round project that can sit behind Rodgers for a year or two. Sign me up for this kid. He apparently is going back to school. No joke, I think it either his 6 or 7 season there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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