Soft Gardner tweeting out his “stats” after an embarrassing loss again

[Matt39]

another guy we can move on from if the team had any brains. 

[Creepy Lurker]

2 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

another guy we can move on from if the team had any brains. 

I don’t blame him at all. He’s doing great on a TERRIBLE team and needs to worry about his best interests. Not one player on this team should “buy in” or put the team first until there is reason to do so. Self preservation and personal interests being priority is completely justified. 

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, Creepy Lurker said:

I don’t blame him at all. He’s doing great on a TERRIBLE team and needs to worry about his best interests. Not one player on this team should “buy in” or put the team first until there is reason to do so. Self preservation and personal interests being priority is completely justified. 

Nah. At some point the players have to step up on their own. Watching this type of effort is maddening 

[Trotter]

perhaps it is a reflection of leadership (or lack thereof)?

[Joe W. Namath]

Now going after Sauce.

just unreal.

Jet fans………………..

[Adoni Beast]

Stats are for losers

Scoreboard is for winners

[Matt39]

Just now, Joe W. Namath said:

Now going after Sauce.

just unreal.

Jet fans………………..

Jermaine Johnson is part of the solution. Sauce is not. There, some positivity. 

[bla bla bla]

6 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Nah. At some point the players have to step up on their own. Watching this type of effort is maddening 

He should have tried there. It was 1st down, even if you get flagged it's only gonna end up on the half yard line.

I wouldn't get worked up about this though. I'd need to see more evidence of this being consistent. Sauce is a stud.

[Creepy Lurker]

6 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Nah. At some point the players have to step up on their own. Watching this type of effort is maddening 

That was bad but my point was that him focusing on his interests is the least of this team’s concerns. Build a respectable program first and players will put the team first and not collapse/give up every year. 

[UntouchableCrew]

11 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

another guy we can move on from if the team had any brains. 

I mean, ludicrous take.

What is a young elite defender on this team supposed to do? Hang his head in shame like he has anything to do with this mess?

We're lucky Sauce, GW, Breece, etc. aren't trying to get traded. How dare they point out that they've actually played extremely well?

[GangGreened]

Yes, let’s move on from Sauce Gardner and trade him for picks.

Such a stupid take 

[Matt39]

Just now, UntouchableCrew said:

I mean, ludicrous take.

What is a young elite defender on this team supposed to do? Hang his head in shame like he has anything to do with this mess?

We're lucky Sauce, GW, Breece, etc. aren't trying to get traded. How dare they point out that they've actually played extremely well?

Trading him or him asking for a trade would be good. You can actually get assets for him and you’re not losing much from a production/leadership standpoint. The Jets need offense more than a corner. Echols and Carter could easily fill the void opposite Reed. The Jets are the same team with or without Gardner on the roster. I’d argue the Eagles game could indicate they may be better.

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, GangGreened said:

Yes, let’s move on from Sauce Gardner and trade him for picks.

Such a stupid take 

It’s not. If Gardner lands a high pick and you can convert it to offense why not? The Jets actually have depth at CB. And if he’s not going to travel…even more of a reason. 

[GangGreened]

9 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

It’s not. If Gardner lands a high pick and you can convert it to offense why not? The Jets actually have depth at CB. And if he’s not going to travel…even more of a reason. 

Did you watch this defense in 2021?

What kind of return do you think we will get for a 2nd year corner that will likely have 2 all pros to his name his first 2 years? And you want to hand that to Joe Douglas of all people?

 

[T0mShane]

25 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said:

I don’t blame him at all. He’s doing great on a TERRIBLE team and needs to worry about his best interests. Not one player on this team should “buy in” or put the team first until there is reason to do so. Self preservation and personal interests being priority is completely justified. 

Yeah, I don’t have a problem with this. Good corners are nuts and Sauce is legitimately being screwed because of this offense. Dude can’t even generate Pro Bowl votes despite every metric showing he’s CB1 in the league

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, GangGreened said:

Did you watch this defense in 2021?

What kind of return do you think we will get for a 2nd year corner that will likely have 2 all pros to his name his first 2 years? And you want to hand that to Joe Douglas of all people?

 

You tell me- what is the return for him?

[TuscanyTile2]

23 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Now going after Sauce.

just unreal.

Jet fans………………..

"I resign as Captain of JN"

[GangGreened]

1 minute ago, Matt39 said:

You tell me- what is the return for him?

I’m not the one proposing we trade him, so I was curious as what kind of return you anticipate.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

One of the many terrible takes you have. 

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, GangGreened said:

I’m not the one proposing we trade him, so I was curious as what kind of return you anticipate.

Probably a 1. 

[Bleedin Green]

30 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Now going after Sauce.

just unreal.

Jet fans………………..

If only we had a captain.

[Matt39]

5 minutes ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said:

One of the many terrible takes you have. 

Unfortunately they always turn out to be correct. A man corner taken 4th overall to play zone, without the zone instincts to pick the ball off is a waste of a talent. The Jets pass defense is easily beatable by decent teams, and the AFC east teams have had zero issues passing the ball. If the staff is actually returning, he’s an obvious trade candidate. Sherman was what a 5th rounder? 

[Tooooon]

Great thread!  About time someone had the guts to say we should have no good players to go along with bad coaching. Tried and true winning formula.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

41 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Unfortunately they always turn out to be correct. A man corner taken 4th overall to play zone, without the zone instincts to pick the ball off is a waste of a talent. The Jets pass defense is easily beatable by decent teams, and the AFC east teams have had zero issues passing the ball. If the staff is actually returning, he’s an obvious trade candidate. Sherman was what a 5th rounder? 

Unfortunately. No. 

[shawn306]

I think the Jets should just fold. 
 

 

[Hex]

While we're at it, let's punt both QW brothers, Garrett Wilson, and Breece Hall.

[ChewyandtheJets]

It's funny i thought for sure this post was by the same guy who get posting to trade Sauce in the game thread last night.  Guess there are actually two of you who believe trading your youngest, best players on their rookies contracts is a good idea.  The only positive i can take is that there are at least two people worse at talent evaluation and roster construction than our own general manager.     

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

He can say whatever he wants.

Jets are idiots if they trade him or let him walk.

[Maxman]

2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

another guy we can move on from if the team had any brains. 

Move on from Sauce?  LOL.

[Maxman]

A lot of fans have been saying, tank, lose them all. Tank for the draft pick, winning means nothing.

Well on paper losing gets you a better pick.

In reality losing also breaks things along the way. These stress fractures add up and then you end up having even more problems.

Winning is good.

[Maxman]

1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

Unfortunately they always turn out to be correct. A man corner taken 4th overall to play zone, without the zone instincts to pick the ball off is a waste of a talent. The Jets pass defense is easily beatable by decent teams, and the AFC east teams have had zero issues passing the ball. If the staff is actually returning, he’s an obvious trade candidate. Sherman was what a 5th rounder? 

I see what you are saying now. This is a statement more about them not using Sauce to his full capacity as a shut down man corner?

[dbatesman]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Yeah, I don’t have a problem with this. Good corners are nuts and Sauce is legitimately being screwed because of this offense. Dude can’t even generate Pro Bowl votes despite every metric showing he’s CB1 in the league

I mean, I absolutely have a problem with it, but it is what it is. Top CBs are all wideout-level divas these days. Like you said, he’s a (minimum) top-3 player at a big-time position. The idea of trading him for “probably a 1” because the Eagles happened to sh*t their pants on a day he didn’t play is, uhhh,

[dbatesman]

6 minutes ago, Maxman said:

I see what you are saying now. This is a statement more about them not using Sauce to his full capacity as a shut down man corner?

I do think there’s something to this. I think Sauce will be a lot more valuable when he can actually stick with guys like Lamb and Waddle all game rather than just covering a side of the field or whatever the **** we have him do. 

[chirorob]

2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

another guy we can move on from if the team had any brains. 

Yeah. Move on from the guy who doesn't quit

[Lurker89]