My choice for UNO- Brian Thomas

[hmhertz]

From one of the most respected offensive line coaches in NFL history-

Callahan said a team can never have enough speed, and he said the Titans need to be faster, and more explosive. "At the end of the day, the NFL is about scoring points, and having people that can score points is important," Callahan said when discussing playmakers. "I'll always lean, when all things are equal, (on) guys that can score touchdowns tend to make more of an impact."

 

You can always coach up an offensive line, you need smart, hard working

players, with plus athleticism, the Shaun O'Haras of the world.

Look at the grades of O'linemen taken first in the last few years.

They develop slowly, if at all. BT lead the country in TD catches.

Runs & jumps like he has a missal in his rectum. Reportedly

is super  smart. Take the leading point maker in the country

and replace the leading culprit of our piss poor offensive line,

Keith Carter

[y2k8]

 

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

I’d rather have Rome odunze or Brian Thomas over an olineman in the first. Thats just me tho

[Sperm Edwards]

27 minutes ago, hmhertz said:

From one of the most respected offensive line coaches in NFL history-

"I'll always lean, when all things are equal, (on) guys that can score touchdowns tend to make more of an impact."

Wow, he may bet a terrific OLC but holy crap Callahan is really going out on a limb here!

[Warfish]

Bryan Thomas?

[dbatesman]

33 minutes ago, hmhertz said:

he has a missal in his rectum

Gives new meaning to the phrase "holy sh*t," eh guys

[dbatesman]

I'll show myself out

[derp]

Don't tell @Paradis

[#27TheDominator]

6 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Wow, he may bet a terrific OLC but holy crap Callahan is really going out on a limb here!

As difficult as it is to decipher, I think the point is that even an offensive line coach thinks you should draft skill position players and coach up OL.  So maybe not reach for a G at 10.  Still not sure why he is touting a guy who nobody has in the top 3 WR at 10, but that isn't surprising considering the circumstances.

[Beerfish]

36 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Wow, he may bet a terrific OLC but holy crap Callahan is really going out on a limb here!

He is though as far as the jets are concerned.   The jets have fallen into such a bad oline spot that they will pass on some weapon player for a RT.

And even when they do pick a WR later in the draft they will pick one.

We had a need for td makers last year and instead of picking a wr weapon we picked a friggin developmental edge rusher and were good with the likes of Hardman, lazard and cobb.

What is obvious to some is not obvious to Joe Douglas.

[Paradis]

1 hour ago, derp said:

Don't tell @Paradis

Hilarious timing, I was watching a bunch of LSU games last night to revisit Thomas... He and Odunze are two WRs i've had to change my tune on. I still think BTJ needs to work on attacking the ball and being more physical with DBs, but some of the issues I complained about were made up in my head.

He's got Brandon Aiyuk vibes -- and it took me going back to revisit his games for longer look as well, before I came 'round

[bonkertons]

1 hour ago, dbatesman said:

Gives new meaning to the phrase "holy sh*t," eh guys

 

 

[Warfish]

1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

He is though as far as the jets are concerned.   The jets have fallen into such a bad oline spot that they will pass on some weapon player for a RT.

And even when they do pick a WR later in the draft they will pick one.

We had a need for td makers last year and instead of picking a wr weapon we picked a friggin developmental edge rusher and were good with the likes of Hardman, lazard and cobb.

What is obvious to some is not obvious to Joe Douglas.

But "Rodgers will make everyone better, like Lazard", right?  I keep hearing people say that....

[bicketybam]

But "Rodgers will make everyone better, like Lazard", right?  I keep hearing people say that....

I would expect the same level of play from the receivers as it was with Zach. Makes sense

[Warfish]

Just now, bicketybam said:

I would expect the same level of play from the receivers as it was with Zach. Makes sense

Rodgers isn't going to turn lazy Lazard into a legit #2.  I would hope watching that loser "play" last year would have cured anyone of the idea that Lazard was anything more than a glorified blocker at WR, because he was atrocious as a receiver, on his own play.

And hopefully the fantasy that the UDFA twins are any kind of answer at WR has also sailed at this point.

Wilson and Hall are legit.  We don't have ANY other legit players at O-skill spots of of now.  We need more, with or without Old Man Rodgers. 

[bicketybam]

Rodgers isn't going to turn lazy Lazard into a legit #2.  I would hope watching that loser "play" last year would have cured anyone of the idea that Lazard was anything more than a glorified blocker at WR, because he was atrocious as a receiver, on his own play.
And hopefully the fantasy that the UDFA twins are any kind of answer at WR has also sailed at this point.
Wilson and Hall are legit.  We don't have ANY other legit players at O-skill spots of of now.  We need more, with or without Old Man Rodgers. 

I never said he was going to turn Lazard into a legit #2. But I bet he will put up better numbers than 23 for 311 with 1 TD. And I think Wilson will have better numbers as well. That was my point. Perhaps you think Zach is a better passer of the football than Rodgers? Reads a defense better? Is better at identifying who's open?

[derp]

31 minutes ago, Paradis said:

Hilarious timing, I was watching a bunch of LSU games last night to revisit Thomas... He and Odunze are two WRs i've had to change my tune on. I still think BTJ needs to work on attacking the ball and being more physical with DBs, but some of the issues I complained about were made up in my head.

He's got Brandon Aiyuk vibes -- and it took me going back to revisit his games for longer look as well, before I came 'round

I’ll be honest, I haven’t had (and won’t have) time to dive in on guys. You being out on a 6’4 dude was discouraging. I like a little tune change there. Odunze too, but expect he won’t be available.

[Larz]

Need to see what the needs are first. 
 

that could take until the end of March. 
 

first things first 

[hmhertz]

I've been watching the last game over and over since the season ended.

Carter Warren, Newman & Yeboah blocked with intensity in the snow.

Newman who looks like he could be a fine center/guard 

was brought here by the dreadful Keith Carter. I have no interest

in any of the veteran receivers. for those who complain how Grandpa

Rodgers is reluctant to rely on rookie receivers, I ask you how long

did it take for Wilson to establish himself as a quality starter?

Brian Thomas has the physical skills to make  GW a great 1b

[Paradis]

3 hours ago, derp said:

I’ll be honest, I haven’t had (and won’t have) time to dive in on guys. You being out on a 6’4 dude was discouraging. I like a little tune change there. Odunze too, but expect he won’t be available.

Being a Cialis size whore for WRs over 6'3 came with a lot of heartbreak, but i'm a finely tuned machine now

[Jet_Engine1]

5 hours ago, hmhertz said:

Missal in his rectum

Like, that's weird.

 

[jetsons]

[Greenseed4]

Brian Thomas Jr., feels like the Will MacDonald of this WR class. 

9.97 RAS score, should be available at #10

[jetswin]

Didn't we try this once before?

[varjet]

5 hours ago, Greenseed4 said:

Brian Thomas Jr., feels like the Will MacDonald of this WR class. 

9.97 RAS score, should be available at #10

He is definitely the WmcD of this draft class and will go higher than 15.  The Jets need to take him.   He will make their 2024 season as opposed to taking an OT who sits on the bench in 2024. 

[Lurker89]

Better  than a bunch of braindead animals screaming for Legette.

[Greenseed4]

47 minutes ago, varjet said:

He is definitely the WmcD of this draft class and will go higher than 15.  The Jets need to take him.   He will make their 2024 season as opposed to taking an OT who sits on the bench in 2024. 

I agree that getting WR in the first round is the way to go.  BTJ is going to be a stud.

It’s such a deep OT class, that getting one in the 3rd round that can sit for a year and develop is a very realistic possibility.

I like Kiran Amegadjie, Roger Rosengarten, and Blake Fisher in that range.  And we just need one of them or Carter Warren to be ready for full time action by next year.  

With franchise tag options and extension possibilities, we can keep one of Smith or Moses (if not both), and have developed depth ready in tow. 

[SickJetFan]

On 3/6/2024 at 4:44 PM, Paradis said:

Hilarious timing, I was watching a bunch of LSU games last night to revisit Thomas... He and Odunze are two WRs i've had to change my tune on. I still think BTJ needs to work on attacking the ball and being more physical with DBs, but some of the issues I complained about were made up in my head.

He's got Brandon Aiyuk vibes -- and it took me going back to revisit his games for longer look as well, before I came 'round

Thing is if he stayed at LSU 1 more season we could be talking about his as top 5 pick.  Not sure what LSU QB position looks like next year maybe that is why he came out.

[Paradis]

15 minutes ago, SickJetFan said:

Thing is if he stayed at LSU 1 more season we could be talking about his as top 5 pick.  Not sure what LSU QB position looks like next year maybe that is why he came out.

I don't disagree, but if i was his agent i might have steered him to declare anyway.

He's already got a 1st round grade, and his competition for WR4 is who? Franklin, Coleman and Mitchel? He'll easily be #4 receiver taken i'd bet. Too many questions with the next set of names to warrant a 1st rnd pick. He'll be off the board most likely between 14-24. 

[SickJetFan]

11 minutes ago, Paradis said:

I don't disagree, but if i was his agent i might have steered him to declare anyway.

He's already got a 1st round grade, and his competition for WR4 is who? Franklin, Coleman and Mitchel? He'll easily be #4 receiver taken i'd bet. Too many questions with the next set of names to warrant a 1st rnd pick. He'll be off the board most likely between 14-24. 

but if he did stay and had decent QB then very good chance he be top 10 like Nabers with more size and speed.  Meaning he potentially a bargain this draft.

[Paradis]

3 hours ago, SickJetFan said:

but if he did stay and had decent QB then very good chance he be top 10 like Nabers with more size and speed.  Meaning he potentially a bargain this draft.

yea, but is it worth it? To stay another year to (maybe) slide up from say pick #17 to pick #5-7?... flip side is, you declare, avoid any serious injury risk, or an imploding Brian Kelly, and you get to hit your second contract in the NFL when you're 1 year younger. 

[SickJetFan]

8 minutes ago, Paradis said:

yea, but is it worth it? To stay another year to (maybe) slide up from say pick #17 to pick #5-7?... flip side is, you declare, avoid any serious injury risk, or an imploding Brian Kelly, and you get to hit your second contract in the NFL when you're 1 year younger. 

I am not arguing whether he made the right choice coming out or not.  Just saying I get that he is currently slated back end of 1st round but that may be a bargain because these other guys have more tape and that 1 more year of starting he does not.  I dunno if i would risk taking him @10 unless i knew more but he may very well actually turn out to be very good.

[derp]

26 minutes ago, SickJetFan said:

I am not arguing whether he made the right choice coming out or not.  Just saying I get that he is currently slated back end of 1st round but that may be a bargain because these other guys have more tape and that 1 more year of starting he does not.  I dunno if i would risk taking him @10 unless i knew more but he may very well actually turn out to be very good.

I’d be pretty surprised if he makes it out of the top 20.

[SickJetFan]

18 minutes ago, derp said:

I’d be pretty surprised if he makes it out of the top 20.

me too

[varjet]

26 minutes ago, derp said:

I’d be pretty surprised if he makes it out of the top 20.

The question is whether the Jets can trade down and still get 11-20 and a second.  

Teams are only trading up for Bowers or a QB like JJM or Nix, neither of which the Jets need.