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MLF was touted as a heroic rising star in 2021 and then quickly morphed into the guy completely at fault for ZW being an all-time bust after that.  At the same time, Ulbrich went from roundly mocked as a joke to everyone's favorite coach.  Of course, this is while talking about mythological greatness of JD, despite a streak of 5 years of failures, therefore deflecting blame to Saleh, who JD also hired but is somehow conveniently not at fault for that either.  I mean, it's not like that exact thought process was proven to be one of pure idiocy when it's the exact argument made immediately before this round of it started in 2019.

The truth is that for as much as this team and the Johnson family (quite deservedly) gets trashed for their poor decision-making, it's sad to say that a very large portion of it is due to the continued mistake of them listening to some of the most mind-numbingly stupid arguments that our loudest fellow fans continually make.

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As bad as Hackett resume has been past 2 seasons, he did lead Packers to #2 and #1 in red zone scoring in 2019 and 2020 respectively where it is said he oversaw that part of the offense. Plus in 2017 when he was the play caller with the Jaguars and Bortles as qb, they had an average of little more than 26 ppg. Albeit with that defense it might have been short fields, but they were #6 in yards. Plus they had a 10-6 record, so I think it's safe to assume those yards weren't produced in "garbage time" mostly. He's had some boom years and bust years, hopefully with Rodgers and Taylor as qbs it's a boom year.

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9 minutes ago, Darnold's Forehead said:

"After much consideration, I have decided to take on the new role of Head Coach for this football team.  Excited for this new journey."

- Bob Salad

We have an OC that wasn't aware of Breece Hall's catching ability and a half-coach that wants to become a HC. We are in good hands.

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17 minutes ago, Bronx said:

We have an OC that wasn't aware of Breece Hall's catching ability and a half-coach that wants to become a HC. We are in good hands.

Yet, Breece Hall led the AFC in all purpose yards. Pretty sure only CMac was higher in the league. Weird! 

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30 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Yet, Breece Hall led the AFC in all purpose yards. Pretty sure only CMac was higher in the league. Weird! 

Just imagine if Hackett knew all along.

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1 hour ago, Bronx said:

We have an OC that wasn't aware of Breece Hall's catching ability and a half-coach that wants to become a HC. We are in good hands.

Or maybe they didnt want to put too much on a player that had a total knee reconstruction 10 months prior.

But hey, go w/ the disease narrative.

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5 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Mike lafluer was immature and wasnt ready to be a leader.  Hes a really good playcallsr and offensive mind.  He will mature under mcvay and become an excellent head coach.

So basically a great oc?

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4 hours ago, Bronx said:

We have an OC that wasn't aware of Breece Hall's catching ability and a half-coach that wants to become a HC. We are in good hands.

Oh Jeez, how many times can you take this throw way comment and run with it as if he literally didn’t know.  

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Ultimately, LaFleur got to sit back and watch Douglas and Saleh immolate themselves in service of the very players whom LaFleur allegedly had issues with—Zach, Becton, Elijah Moore—who all suck and are all garbage babies, to boot. It was an act of extreme cowardice for Saleh and the Jets to let LaFleur go, but he’s the one most likely to be an NFL head coach in 2025 while Saleh and Ulbrich are scrambling for assistant gigs somewhere. 

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If there’s one thing that ends up being the downfall of this team other than injury, it’s likely either or these 2 things:

1) Saleh being a fraud — i.e. choke job decision making in crunch time;  team coming out flat as a pancake in the most important games of the season 

2) Hackett 

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Coming off a tremendous offseason and on the heels of OTAs where the team is getting rave reviews, it makes perfect sense to rehash 2/3 year old stats about qbs and OC that are no longer on our team, and to make predictions/list about things that might sink this team this season.

I’m not questioning the validity of said stats, just the timing of this stuff.  Enjoy the fact that good things are expected this year !

As Mike Ditka famously said in a coors lite commercial, “I don’t believe in the past, the past is for cowards.”

Off topic, those coach Coors commercials from the early 2000s were great.

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15 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

You think baby LaFleur sucks until you get to experience Nate Hackett as your OC and playcaller 🤣😂

I said it at the time:  bro was scapegoated, pure and simple for the failures of the front office in making one of the worst decisions at #2 overall in NFL history 

Now he’s doing offseason rounds taking victory laps as McVay’s next disciple to eventually get a HC job 🫨😳

https://youtu.be/iHORUOcRctQ?si=gxObSRCdu0ouQYG5

 

This isn't new, but it's always been clear to anyone paying attention.

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9 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Ultimately, LaFleur got to sit back and watch Douglas and Saleh immolate themselves in service of the very players whom LaFleur allegedly had issues with—Zach, Becton, Elijah Moore—who all suck and are all garbage babies, to boot. It was an act of extreme cowardice for Saleh and the Jets to let LaFleur go, but he’s the one most likely to be an NFL head coach in 2025 while Saleh and Ulbrich are scrambling for assistant gigs somewhere. 

100% correct.

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15 hours ago, slimjasi said:

I feel like this stat has been posted 123456789 different times on here by now. 

It has.

And in fairness, it should be updated to include 2023 now as well.

It's also now irrelevant to us.  Wilson is, rightfully, on his own lack of merit, gone. 

We have Rodgers, and Rodgers wanted his guy and so we have his guy.  It was a package deal I believe (but can't prove, per se).  Rodgers wanted to go someplace where his guy and his system would be in place, and some of his guys could be signed, and that's what he got in 2023.

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milfy was a childish moron.  saleh didn't know a thing about offense so he let his newbie oc run the offense.  completely bad move.  milfy didn't relate to any of the players or coaches.  as for all of this bs about his plays or play calling, just about any oc can call plays and has enough plays to chose from.  what they all don't have is the ability to teach the plays and make sure they're being executed properly.  good riddance.

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16 hours ago, Bleedin Green said:

MLF was touted as a heroic rising star in 2021 and then quickly morphed into the guy completely at fault for ZW being an all-time bust after that.  At the same time, Ulbrich went from roundly mocked as a joke to everyone's favorite coach.  Of course, this is while talking about mythological greatness of JD, despite a streak of 5 years of failures, therefore deflecting blame to Saleh, who JD also hired but is somehow conveniently not at fault for that either.  I mean, it's not like that exact thought process was proven to be one of pure idiocy when it's the exact argument made immediately before this round of it started in 2019.

The truth is that for as much as this team and the Johnson family (quite deservedly) gets trashed for their poor decision-making, it's sad to say that a very large portion of it is due to the continued mistake of them listening to some of the most mind-numbingly stupid arguments that our loudest fellow fans continually make.

so who's fault is it ???

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any/every team has 1,000 moving parts.  a team with a talented and experienced qb can still produce on offense even if the OC is lacking and the hc is a rookle.  A team with a "game manager" as their qb can still produce if the oc is capable and experienced even of the hc is a rookie and still finding his way. 

a team with a rookie hc and oc and poor qb is doomed.   that was the jets in 2022.  in 2023 the jets had a poor qb and a poor oc and a hc that takes little involvement in the offense.  again, they were doomed.

only bad management at the very top causes all of the moving parts to be defective at the same time. 

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16 minutes ago, rangerous said:

milfy didn't relate to any of the players or coaches

How do we know this exactly?

It seems to me the only players he had trouble “relating to” are Zach Wilson, Elijah Moore, and Denzel Mims, who all have all since been exposed as bad players.

Mike White, Joe Flacco, and even Josh Johnson seemed to take to his coaching just fine 😂

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16 hours ago, Bronx said:

It's okay, Robert is going to start paying attention to the offense this season on his new role.  LMAO!

 

Lol, ALL the warning signs of a disastrous season are there and everyone is ignoring them. 

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