Not much ‘hope’ in Jets’ Aaron Rodgers-Nathaniel Hackett pairing: ESPN’s Kevin Clark

[bicketybam]

37 minutes ago, Bronx said:

Numbers don't lie. 

No. They don't.

[Barry McCockinner]

1 hour ago, Bronx said:

Numbers don't lie. 2023 Hackett's offense was worst in the league.  AR is running the show and Hackett is the puppet. 

Some people are good at designing but not doing. Obviously Rodgers covets something that Hackett does. It's well documented. I would speculate that Hackett designs the offense well but isn't a good play caller and/or teacher of said offense. Rodgers is smart enough to not need teaching.

Rodgers will run the offense at the line of scrimmage in a way that most QBs aren't capable of. It's the marriage of the two that seems to work 

[Bronx]

32 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Some people are good at designing

AI can replace this fool. 

[Barry McCockinner]

25 minutes ago, Bronx said:

AI can replace this fool. 

Creating a playbook for the New York Jets with Aaron Rodgers as the quarterback involves leveraging his strengths, including his quick release, deep ball accuracy, and ability to read defenses. Here's a high-level outline of a playbook that maximizes Rodgers' skills:

 

### Offensive Philosophy

**Offensive Identity**: Balanced attack with a slight emphasis on the passing game, using a mix of West Coast and modern spread concepts.

**Tempo**: Variable, with the ability to go no-huddle and quick snap to keep defenses off balance.

**Formation Diversity**: Utilize multiple formations to create mismatches and disguise plays.

 

### Key Formations

1. **Shotgun Formation**

   - **11 Personnel (1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR)**: Versatile formation that can shift into multiple looks.

   - **Empty Set (5 WR/TE)**: Forces the defense to spread out, allowing Rodgers to quickly identify mismatches.

 

2. **Singleback Formation**

   - **Ace Formation (2 WR, 2 TE, 1 RB)**: Balanced formation ideal for both running and play-action passes.

   - **Trips Right/Left**: Creates space for short and intermediate passing routes.

 

3. **Pistol Formation**

   - Combines the advantages of shotgun and under center, enhancing the running game while maintaining passing threat.

 

### Core Play Concepts

1. **Quick Passing Game**

   - **Slant/Flat Combo**: Quick reads, ideal for moving the chains.

   - **Stick Concept**: Short, reliable routes for quick gains.

 

2. **Intermediate Passing Game**

   - **Flood Concept**: Overloads one side of the field, providing clear reads for Rodgers.

   - **Levels Concept**: Creates layers in the defense, opening up passing lanes.

 

3. **Deep Passing Game**

   - **Four Verticals**: Stretches the defense vertically, exploiting Rodgers' deep ball accuracy.

   - **Post/Dig Combo**: Puts pressure on safeties and creates big play opportunities.

 

4. **Play-Action Passing**

   - **Bootleg/Waggle**: Moves the pocket and creates easy throws on the run.

   - **Play-Action Deep Shot**: Sets up deep passes after establishing the run game.

 

5. **Running Game**

   - **Inside Zone**: Simple yet effective, allowing RB to find cutback lanes.

   - **Outside Zone**: Stretches the defense horizontally, creating opportunities for big runs.

   - **Power Run**: Utilizes pulling guards to open holes for the RB.

 

### Situational Plays

1. **Red Zone Offense**

   - **Tight Formations**: Maximize blocking for runs and create mismatches for passes.

   - **Pick Plays**: Create separation in tight spaces.

 

2. **Third Down Plays**

   - **Mesh Concept**: Crossing routes to exploit man coverage.

   - **Shallow Cross**: High-low read that’s easy for Rodgers to execute.

 

3. **Two-Minute Drill**

   - **No-Huddle Offense**: Keeps the defense on its heels.

   - **Sideline Routes**: Quick outs and comeback routes to stop the clock.

 

### Special Packages

1. **Wildcat Formation**

   - Occasionally use a direct snap to a running back to confuse the defense.

 

2. **Trick Plays**

   - **Flea Flicker**: High risk, high reward play to catch defenses off guard.

   - **Reverse**: Utilize the speed of WRs to create big play opportunities.

 

### Adjustments and Audibles

- **Line of Scrimmage Reads**: Empower Rodgers to change plays based on defensive alignment.

- **Hot Routes**: Quick adjustments to beat blitzes or exploit mismatches.

 

### Practice Focus

1. **Timing and Rhythm**: Develop chemistry between Rodgers and receivers.

2. **Situational Drills**: Emphasize red zone, third down, and two-minute situations.

3. **Blocking Schemes**: Ensure the offensive line can handle different defensive fronts.

 

This playbook leverages Aaron Rodgers' skills and experience, ensuring the Jets can effectively move the ball and score points.

[Beerfish]

Rodgers may still be good.

Hackett is a 100% travesty.

Of all the NY Jets foibles over about the past 20 years, their oc choices might be the most tragic.

Choosing Hackett just to appease rodgers was just an epically stupid move.

[Bronx]

17 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Rodgers may still be good.

Hackett is a 100% travesty.

Of all the NY Jets foibles over about the past 20 years, their oc choices might be the most tragic.

Choosing Hackett just to appease rodgers was just an epically stupid move.

 A total inept coach who retains his job by default.  Aaron Rodgers is calling the shots from upper management to play-calling. 

[Testaverde9819]

3 hours ago, Wit said:

You gave up on the team after Rodgers went down last season captain. The disease gets us all.

I literally started laughing like Walter in breaking bad when Rodgers got hurt. Not even joking lol

 

 

[Testaverde9819]

10 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

ESPN still coping with their patriots dynasty being over

For you saying this the Patriots have been awarded 78 comp picks. - Roger godell

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

LOL 😂

”Supposedly Robert Saleh is more involved in the offense now.  Is that supposed to be a good thing?”

[Joe W. Namath]

34 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

LOL 😂

”Supposedly Robert Saleh is more involved in the offense now.  Is that supposed to be a good thing?”

Yes, he was a tight end in college.  He knows just as much offense as he does defense.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

3 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Yes, he was a tight end in college.  He knows just as much offense as he does defense.

In that case, Jeff Ulbrich must be a freaking genius and running the show, because the offense has been league-worst for 3 years and the HC has done nothing to help.

[Barry McCockinner]

3 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Yes, he was a tight end in college.  He knows just as much offense as he does defense.

[Fantasy Island]

Patiently waiting for Hackett to be fired after the 4th game.

[Joe W. Namath]

32 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Yup.  A guy who was a 4 year starter on the offensive side of the ball in college is clueless on offense.

The disease doesnt even rest on holidays.

[slimjasi]

5 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Yup.  A guy who was a 4 year starter on the offensive side of the ball in college is clueless on offense.

The disease doesnt even rest on holidays.

To be fair, there’s a difference between being clueless about offense and being able to coach offense at a competent level in the NFL

[Barry McCockinner]

31 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Yup.  A guy who was a 4 year starter on the offensive side of the ball in college is clueless on offense.

The disease doesnt even rest on holidays.

It's almost like there's some nuance between "clueless on offense" and knowing just as much about offense as he does about defense.

The guy is one of the best defensive coaches in the league. You're comparing that level to some college TE. I mean c'mon 

 

[bonkertons]

This duo that resulted in back to back MVPs.....I'm not too sure about it.  Something feels OFF.

[T0mShane]

On 5/26/2024 at 12:59 PM, Barry McCockinner said:

Obviously Rodgers covets something that Hackett does. It's well documented.

Rank submissiveness. 

[slats]

16 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

It's almost like there's some nuance between "clueless on offense" and knowing just as much about offense as he does about defense.

The guy is one of the best defensive coaches in the league. You're comparing that level to some college TE. I mean c'mon 

I would expect that a coach who has a pretty good understanding of how to stop offenses might also have some insight into how a defense gets beat. Nothing really to do with him being a college TE (lol), but more about coaching against NFL offenses for a number of years. Felt the same about Rex back in the day. Hell, Belichick was Brady’s QB coach at the start of his career, although that Matt Patricia experiment left a little to be desired. 
 
According to Cimini, Saleh was more involved in the offense at the end of last year as they finished 3-2 (and ruined their draft position, wah!), scoring 30 points twice down the stretch. After failing to bring in a senior offensive assistant, he’s going to take a more hands-on approach in a season that -everyone seems to agree- could be his last. That makes a lot of sense to me. 

[Jdeet]

22 hours ago, Fantasy Island said:

Patiently waiting for Hackett to be fired after the 4th game.

When you are at the level of Aaron Rodgers, as a HOF and MVP QB, the offensive coordinator, no matter which player or team you are speaking about, just needs to be a guy who can relate to the rest of the team, the plays that Aaron likes, understands that Aaron will possibly change the play at the line, and can work together in action. The two years Rodgers and Hackett worked together, proved that. The relationship with Aaron and Hackett goes beyond football. They are close friends. The main reason Aaron is here is because of Hackett. 

Giving anyone else credit (or blame) is just stupid. Rodgers is the reason this will work and his injury (and our option at backup QB) was the reason Hackett didn't succeed last year. 

 

[Viermoo]

The reasoning to believe that Rogers and Hackett won’t work is really flawed here. Why would you want to push Rogers, a wildly successful NFL QB for the duration of his career, into making throws he’s not comfortable making?


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[Bronx]

On 5/27/2024 at 5:48 PM, Fantasy Island said:

Patiently waiting for Hackett to be fired after the 4th snap

Fixed. 

[FootballLove]

Really, I wish we had a creative, up-and-coming young OC with fresh ideas to coach Aaron Rodgers and teach Arron how to make all the throws and win games.

[BroadwayRay]

There’s nothing odd about this guy’s take. What is odd is that the Jets are going into the season with the worst OC in football and one of the worst head coaches, yet the fan base is giddy and fully expects to vie for a Super Bowl. 

[Scotty Wooty Doo Doo]

Hackett has to be able to not only work with AR , but how about being able to relate and call plays for the backups , just in case . Therein lies the problem !!

[ChuckkieB]

On 5/26/2024 at 11:10 AM, Wit said:

You gave up on the team after Rodgers went down last season captain. The disease gets us all.

To be fair, THAT particular strain of the disease was called Zack Wilson and his poison was so toxic that it hung over all of us like a mushroom cloud for 3 seasons.  We all get a mulligan for THAT.  

[peebag]

On 5/26/2024 at 8:52 AM, Testaverde9819 said:

Rodgers already has, a million times 

Yep.  All 4 plays.

[slimjasi]

23 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Rank submissiveness. 

Probably 

although it’s clear Rodgers is confident in that offense and confidence is next to Godliness  

[slimjasi]

11 hours ago, BroadwayRay said:

There’s nothing odd about this guy’s take. What is odd is that the Jets are going into the season with the worst OC in football and one of the worst head coaches, yet the fan base is giddy and fully expects to vie for a Super Bowl. 

I see this everywhere. What percentage of the fan base actually expects a SB? I’d guess it’s less than 25%

[dbatesman]

On 5/27/2024 at 11:39 AM, Joe W. Namath said:

Yes, he was a tight end in college.  He knows just as much offense as he does defense.

lmao

[Claymation]

 

[UntouchableCrew]

On 5/28/2024 at 10:11 AM, slats said:

. Felt the same about Rex back in the day. 

Rex is really the opposite, though, right? A case study in the defensive guy who, rather than hiring an OC he wouldn't want to prepare for, goes ultra conservative to compliment "his" defense.

Saleh did the smart thing and hired LaFleur. Zach was just so god awful it undermined that and we got stuck with Aaron's pal.

[slats]

9 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Rex is really the opposite, though, right? A case study in the defensive guy who, rather than hiring an OC he wouldn't want to prepare for, goes ultra conservative to compliment "his" defense.

Saleh did the smart thing and hired LaFleur. Zach was just so god awful it undermined that and we got stuck with Aaron's pal.

I think Rex would’ve liked more offense, but he was saddled with Sanchez. But I agree with your point. The ground & pound offense controlled the ball and clock, and it’s hard for the other team to put up any yards or points when they’re on the sidelines. His #1 defense was a full team effort. 

[SackExchangeNYJ]

If only there was a way to test this. If only there was some set of quantitative data from when Hackett was OC and Rodgers was QB. Then we could draw some conclusions.