Prodigal Syndicate Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Yes. He hired Saleh. Garaunteed he was involved with Hackett coming in. And his rosters are vastly over rated paper champs based on names. He's living off 1 great draft. Been incompetent otherwise. A large portion of this fanbase declared him an amazing GM from day 1 and just dug their heels in since. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Just now, kdels62 said: He was fine. The team had 40 yards rushing and didn’t have a counter for the blitz. He wasn’t perfect but his skills were the only reason why the team moved at all. He wasn’t fine. He was brutally bad. 24 for 42. Took a ton of sacks. Looked rattled. He let the defense rattle him and dictate to him. We didn’t get Rodgers to be a mediocre to bad QB who teams like Denver dictate to. We got him to carry the O and dictate to the defense. He was flat out crappy. We didn’t get Rodgers to play like he played today. He looked like a bottom 10 NFL starter today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, AFJF said: Yeah, I'm sure if they just found Saleh a decent QB he'd be able to handle the legend that is Bo Nix. Yeah, I agree. A QB who could’ve put up more than 9 points would’ve been a great thing to have today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago JD has been mostly awful throughout his stretch. The biggest thing he's had going for him is a continuing list of excuses. This has really all become an exact copy of the Maccagnan / Bowles narratives that were going on around here in 2018, with the same arguments made then being repeated right now, despite how objectively wrong they were all proven to be last time. Many here were adamant about how much more talented Mac's roster was than their performance at that time, with Bowles to blame for it all, yet that story only changed once needing to start making excuses for JD. Those two needed to live and die together last time around, but we instead ended up with Adam Gase. JD was simply the remaining reject GM candidate that no other team wanted when multiple other hirings had been done months earlier. The team needs to not repeat the same past foolishness this time around. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Green Ghost said: Yeah, I agree. A QB who could’ve put up more than 9 points would’ve been a great thing to have today Yeah, if only Saleh had somebody like Braelon Allen to pound it in from the 1-yard line. Your boy is in over his head. HOF QB with a 13-0 record on long rest and Saleh helps him find his first loss to a rookie QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Aaron Rodgers didn't commit 13 penalties. Neither did Joe Douglas. I cannot remeber one time a Robert Saleh coached team came out of a long week or a bye week prepared to play... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, AFJF said: Yeah, if only Saleh had somebody like Braelon Allen to pound it in from the 1-yard line. Your boy is in over his head. HOF QB with a 13-0 record on long rest and Saleh helps him find his first loss to a rookie QB. “Your” boy is going to be 41 yo in a few weeks. He doesn’t look like a HOF QB now. He looks old and tired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago @AFJF btw that goal line fiasco didn’t happen after a long AR led drive. The jets D gave them the ball inside the 30, and a dubious PI call gave them that 1st and goal from the 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 45 minutes ago, AFJF said: Is this the game we're going to play? Pretend every bad game is representative of what happens every week? Yes. Saleh had extra days to prepare the jets and they still came out pretty flat. Too many stupid penalties. This should’ve been a win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: “Your” boy is going to be 41 yo in a few weeks. He doesn’t look like a HOF QB now. He looks old and tired. Sorry you didn't hear any of my takes during the Rodgers pursuit. I said a million times that they overpaid given his age, injury risk and salary. But he's here now so I'm going to root for him. You keep looking for ways to excuse Saleh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 46 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said: He drafted a WR that can't get snaps over Xavier Gipson, something is not adding up here One could argue the Coaches are making mistakes as to who they play when. Gipson is a great example, guys not worthy of any playing time tbqh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 31 minutes ago, AFJF said: Sorry you didn't hear any of my takes during the Rodgers pursuit. I said a million times that they overpaid given his age, injury risk and salary. But he's here now so I'm going to root for him. You keep looking for ways to excuse Saleh. I’m not looking to excuse Saleh. He’s as bad as JD. I just refuse to take the lazy excuse and blame him for everything that happens on the field. At some point, all this so called “talent” needs to man up and get it done between the lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago The GM has done his job of providing talent. The owner was very much in the mix of hiring the head coach and probably was the owner that Hand picked the coach. I am sure the GM is throwing his beer bottle through the TV just like all the arm chair GMs here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: One could argue the Coaches are making mistakes as to who they play when. Gipson is a great example, guys not worthy of any playing time tbqh. So, the argument here is Gipson stinks and it's the coaching staff's problem for playing him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Just now, FidelioJet said: So, the argument here is Gipson stinks and it's the coaching staff's problem for playing him? That is one of several arguments I'd make. Another is "Jets coaches are misusing Hall and Allen". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Warfish said: That is one of several arguments I'd make. Another is "Jets coaches are misusing Hall and Allen". I will agree. Saleh is far too slow to move of his "stars" but Gipson has no right even being a legit target. Allens' lack of usage is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago If this team fails to make the playoffs this year, Joe Douglas is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 29-58 His best seasonal record was year 1 with Mike Maccagnan’s roster. He has been atrocious by any objective measure and the love he has from our fanbase is bizarre. Also putting it all on Saleh like he wasn’t Douglas’ hire is hilarious. Saleh’s failures are by extension his. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Hael said: We have a ton of talent. But this type of game isn’t won with talent. This is a typical hard nosed NFL game, in the elements, where it usually comes down to a few plays here and there. The type that the Patriots in their dynasty used to win every single time. This game was about mistakes, lack of veteran leadership (other than Rogers) and our playmakers simply not making that one ‘killer’ play to end things. So its hard to know who to blame, but Saleh and the coaching staff definitely shares a lot of blame. But ultimately I blame the core of our team.. THe Quinnen Williams, Sauce, GW etc who simply didn’t get it done. Why would you say “other than Rodgers”? He wasn’t good at all today. I don’t understand why so many of you seem afraid to go on record when he doesn’t play well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: So, the argument here is Gipson stinks and it's the coaching staff's problem for playing him? He isn’t very good. But I’m no scout but Douglas eyeing Corley as a must have is one of the craziest things I’ve ever seen out of a professional GM. Watching 3 minutes of him on YouTube was enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: 29-58 His best seasonal record was year 1 with Mike Maccagnan’s roster. He has been atrocious by any objective measure and the love he has from our fanbase is bizarre. Also putting it all on Saleh like he wasn’t Douglas’ hire is hilarious. Saleh’s failures are by extension his. Douglas as usual is hiding and has a trade on his watch where the player has no interest in playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago The Jets are more talented than the team they lost to today. No, I don’t think he was the problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 13 minutes ago, OilfieldJet said: If this team fails to make the playoffs this year, Joe Douglas is gone. Same with Saleh and Rodgers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Nope. It’s the coaching. Given he picked the coach makes it complicated. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago JD ended his tenure the moment he dumped Sam in favor of drafting Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, fullblast said: The Jets are more talented than the team they lost to today. No, I don’t think he was the problem. This roster isn’t that good. You guys have been drinking the Woody kool aid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Green Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago His only problem is not replacing Saleh with a professional. Maybe he's not authorized. Who knows. There is more than enough talent on this deep roster to win. Especially today. The coaching is clearly the problem and Saleh (and Hackett) are completely fkn clueless on anything to do with game planning, or just basic football things. Like running your much stronger back on the goal line instead of a guy who couldn't gain a tough yard to save his life. Everyone on this board could do a better job game planning than these fkn jabronis. If JD cannot see this, than that is a problem... I gotta think he's aware of this phony tho. Wasnt this guy a banker like 10 years ago or something?! He knows defense I will give him that but damn bruh... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut Jet Penalty Makers Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago JD has always been the problem staring from his first ghastly draft. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, shuler82 said: Nope. It’s the coaching. Given he picked the coach makes it complicated. It’s not really that complicated is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago In the end good or bad the buck stops with Joe he hired a terrible coach and the roster is not nearly as talented as folks think it is This is a make or break season - if I was Joe I would trade for Adams no matter the cost - teams just lock down Wilson next week I hope Sam does not light us up but I see it coming a mile away 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 18 minutes ago, OilfieldJet said: It’s not really that complicated is it? Hes also turned a USFL roster into a top 5-10 nfl roster so yeah.. might be 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets1969 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago It's the owner look at Todd Bowles in Tampa Bay we were all trashing him. Now Bowles is coaching like top tier coach Baker Mayfield looks like Tom Brady starting really believe Woody is the issue of why this franchise is so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago There is, after all, only one problem. Every smart jets fan knows that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: 29-58 His best seasonal record was year 1 with Mike Maccagnan’s roster. He has been atrocious by any objective measure and the love he has from our fanbase is bizarre. Also putting it all on Saleh like he wasn’t Douglas’ hire is hilarious. Saleh’s failures are by extension his. This. JD is 30 games below .500. He sucks. No idea why some jets fans still think he’s good after years of stinkage 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago No. That was easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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