Sonny Werblin Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago All of the Jets Offensive shortcomings originate with poor O line play. All of them. Stop looking for quick fixes and draft better O linemen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bronx Posted 8 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 8 hours ago Just now, Sonny Werblin said: All of the Jets Offensive shortcomings originate with poor O line play. All of them. Stop looking for quick fixes and draft better O linemen. Joe Douglas is an expert scout. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dcat Posted 8 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 8 hours ago The Jets need a new OL coach as well. Keith Carter is an egregious mistake. He needs to be replaced for next season. 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PS17 Posted 8 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 8 hours ago It’s the whole team. OL sucks. DL sucks. WRs outside of Wilson and sometimes Lazard suck. Secondary sucks. Coaching sucks. Kicker sucks. Owner sucks. Stadium sucks. Refs suck. 8 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago I, for one, am surprised that JD's bringing an old, injured left tackle looking to retire hasn't worked out.. again. Looking forward to who he can dig up out of their grave for next season. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Just now, jeremy2020 said: I, for one, am surprised that JD's bringing an old, injured left tackle looking to retire hasn't worked out.. again. Looking forward to who he can dig up out of their grave for next season. Maybe get Adrien Clarke in here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said: I, for one, am surprised that JD's bringing an old, injured left tackle looking to retire hasn't worked out.. again. Looking forward to who he can dig up out of their grave for next season. That 42 year old in Seattle when he gets cut. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Smith sucks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Becton I’m sorry! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted 7 hours ago Author Share Posted 7 hours ago When the Ravens were willing to say see ya later to 2 O linemen, the Jets said cone on down an start for us. That IS a problem 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted 7 hours ago Author Share Posted 7 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Becton I’m sorry! Should have been Wirfs. Still don’t understand why it wasn’t 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago We threw for 294 and ran for 100+. Don’t think it was really the OL tonight. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago It’s not just the OL They blocked up some explosive runs Breece couldn’t finish Penalties were the real killer 4 trips to RZ should translate into at least 24 pts Instead they scored 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago It’s not just the OL They blocked up some explosive runs Breece couldn’t finish Penalties were the real killer 4 trips to RZ should translate into at least 24 pts Instead they scored 13 On the plus side, we moved the ball better to get to the red zone. On the minus side, our finishing once there was inadequate. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: All of the Jets Offensive shortcomings originate with poor O line play. All of them. Stop looking for quick fixes and draft better O linemen. Draft more? How about getting a coach on board who doesn't make every lineman under his watch regress? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: All of the Jets Offensive shortcomings originate with poor O line play. All of them. Stop looking for quick fixes and draft better O linemen. Hmm, I seem to recall an earlier thread about this, but everyone said the OP was clueless. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodore Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Troy Aikman said on the broadcast that the Jets have good individual olineman, but don’t know how to play together. Isn’t that on coaching? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago If our two golden boys, Hall and Wilson finish even if you take away the Hail Mary we put up 27 and win that game. The OL has issues the biggest one being Smith but it wasn’t the big issue last night. Rodgers played well, Hall and Wilson played well but they didn’t play winning football. They were not tough in the red zone. The skill and finesse is nice but you have to make the tough catch if you’re a big time WR and you have to put your head down and drag a smaller man into the end zone when he’s the only guy between you and a TD. Lazard actually earned his money last night. He’s a big stiff compared to Wilson but he made some tough catches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 21 minutes ago, Theodore said: Troy Aikman said on the broadcast that the Jets have good individual olineman, but don’t know how to play together. Isn’t that on coaching? Smith is absolutely a big stiff right now. You could cut him and we wouldn’t miss him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 hours ago, Dcat said: The Jets need a new OL coach as well. Keith Carter is an egregious mistake. He needs to be replaced for next season. EAD @Mogglez!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago We knew this going into the draft. Well some of us did ... There were others that were certain the QB makes an OL good and stuff.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradSmith16fan Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: When the Ravens were willing to say see ya later to 2 O linemen, the Jets said cone on down an start for us. That IS a problem Would they get the same type of holding calls Jets got yesterday? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochester Jets Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago The Jets just don’t play like winners. Like they know they’re not going to win games like this. Is it a lack of confidence or leadership? Both? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted 59 minutes ago Share Posted 59 minutes ago 6 hours ago, kdels62 said: We threw for 294 and ran for 100+. Don’t think it was really the OL tonight. We had a slight advantage in TOP. The OL wasn’t the problem last night. It was finishing TD drives. Wilson and Hall in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted 48 minutes ago Share Posted 48 minutes ago 16 minutes ago, Rochester Jets said: The Jets just don’t play like winners. Like they know they’re not going to win games like this. Is it a lack of confidence or leadership? Both? This. And i can’t explain it. You see it most in the red zone. The team as a whole can’t finish. Rodgers was supposed to help with this. Overall, i think the biggest thing here is that the ‘talent on paper’ thing was overrated. The defense is not elite, it’s decent. And the OL is decent at best. Two of the starting tackles are too old and it’s a good thing they drafted fashanu. the team would benefit by playing fashanu bc rodgers wants to stand in the pocket as long as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted 41 minutes ago Author Share Posted 41 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Theodore said: Troy Aikman said on the broadcast that the Jets have good individual olineman, but don’t know how to play together. Isn’t that on coaching? Agree. But how long ago did JD make drafting O lineman a priority? The result? 2 starting O lineman drafted by the Jets. Pitiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted 37 minutes ago Share Posted 37 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Agree. But how long ago did JD make drafting O lineman a priority? The result? 2 starting O lineman drafted by the Jets. Pitiful! It should be 3 and smith is now a liability. I think there’s a few sacks where rodgers was shocked the guy got to him. We’re on the cusp of a mini rebuild where the team is far from barren of talent, like the end of the mccagnan era, but not close to contention. They need to fortify the run d, but they also need a qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted 36 minutes ago Share Posted 36 minutes ago Preach the gospel of Ape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted 36 minutes ago Share Posted 36 minutes ago Becton (1st round), AVT (1st round), Tipp-y (2nd round), Fashanu (1st round) were all high draft picks. Carter Warren was taken in the 4th. JD also spent on several FAs. The bottom line is that it just hasn't worked out. The one thing we should've been able to rely on JD for was building a good OL but he's been a complete failure at it. And Keith Carter stinks too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted 36 minutes ago Author Share Posted 36 minutes ago 6 hours ago, kdels62 said: We threw for 294 and ran for 100+. Don’t think it was really the OL tonight. How many runs, especially at the goal line, was blown up in the backfield? How many pockets were broken immediately by the bills? How many missed blocks did the O line have? How many times was Rodgers hit? How many costly penalties did the O line commit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted 35 minutes ago Share Posted 35 minutes ago Just now, TuscanyTile2 said: Becton (1st round), AVT (1st round), Tipp-y (2nd round), Fashanu (1st round) were all high draft picks. Carter Warren was taken in the 4th. JD also spent on several FAs. The bottom line is that it just hasn't worked out. The one thing we should've been able to rely on JD for was building a good OL but he's been a complete failure at it. And Keith Carter stinks too. But last night it was the LT that was giving up much of the pressure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted 34 minutes ago Share Posted 34 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: This. And i can’t explain it. You see it most in the red zone. The team as a whole can’t finish. Rodgers was supposed to help with this. Overall, i think the biggest thing here is that the ‘talent on paper’ thing was overrated. The defense is not elite, it’s decent. And the OL is decent at best. Two of the starting tackles are too old and it’s a good thing they drafted fashanu. the team would benefit by playing fashanu bc rodgers wants to stand in the pocket as long as possible. It's interesting that we never even attempt to throw those "corner of the end zone" type passes to Mike Williams when we're at the goal line, despite the accuracy of our QB. And we ran it to Breece on the goal line again last night. I know we ran it once to Braelon too (and it was called back) but the Breece goal line runs need to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted 33 minutes ago Author Share Posted 33 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: It should be 3 and smith is now a liability. I think there’s a few sacks where rodgers was shocked the guy got to him. We’re on the cusp of a mini rebuild where the team is far from barren of talent, like the end of the mccagnan era, but not close to contention. They need to fortify the run d, but they also need a qb. Why can’t the jets find starting I lineman in the 3rd or later rounds? Other teams do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted 29 minutes ago Share Posted 29 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: How many runs, especially at the goal line, was blown up in the backfield? How many pockets were broken immediately by the bills? How many missed blocks did the O line have? How many times was Rodgers hit? How many costly penalties did the O line commit? Yeah, I agree. We ran for 5.8 YPC, but it sure seemed like we came up small at important times. And Rodgers is going to get killed by this oline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted 27 minutes ago Share Posted 27 minutes ago 6 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: It's interesting that we never even attempt to throw those "corner of the end zone" type passes to Mike Williams when we're at the goal line, despite the accuracy of our QB. And we ran it to Breece on the goal line again last night. I know we ran it once to Braelon too (and it was called back) but the Breece goal line runs need to stop. Puzzling, and i thought that was a big reason they got a guy like williams. They just don’t attack the end zone like other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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