Jetkid94 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3465 All indications" are that the Jets will sign S Jim Leonhard once free agency opens. Baltimore GM Ozzie Newsome admitted the team will lose him. Rex Ryan will be happy to pay a premium for a try-hard player who knows the defense and can help him implement his system in the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Potentially a good addition, but I'm not completely sold on him. I hope we don't overpay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1Fan Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Potentially a good addition, but I'm not completely sold on him. I hope we don't overpay. Competition between him and Elam (who I think should be a bench player anyway, especially with his big-play-making ability, but lack of good consistency as FS) might prove to be beneficial. I'm not, nor should anyone, be sold on anyone at this point. I think Scott & Leonhard are our only additions this offseason, and we address the CB and WR, and possibly RG, spots in the Draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Potentially a good addition, but I'm not completely sold on him. I hope we don't overpay. If Rex wants then I gotta support it. Lets just hope he brings the same game to NY which has proven to be difficult in the past. Rumors are flying here. I feel like March 1st we are going to have a whole new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I believe in Rex. If Rex would sign Jon McGraw, I would still believe in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Potentially a good addition, but I'm not completely sold on him. I hope we don't overpay. Agreed, although he made plays last year it was his contract year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetkid94 Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Agreed, although he made plays last year it was his contract year. it was like his first real season give a chance in the nfl. the bills destroyed him and ryan picked him up off the street. if anything hes gonna play every season like its his last, knowing he almost was knocked out of the league because the bills didnt execute him well at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I think Scott & Leonhard are our only additions this offseason, and we address the CB and WR, and possibly RG, spots in the Draft With the way we are clearing cap space, I wouldn't be surprised to see another mid/high level FA or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 He is better than Elam or Smith... upgrades are a good thing... he knows the system and he wont cost too much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 If Rex wants then I gotta support it. Lets just hope he brings the same game to NY which has proven to be difficult in the past. Rumors are flying here. I feel like March 1st we are going to have a whole new team. Leonhard is a young player with some upside, but he still has much to prove. He was a failure in Buffalo and he doesn't have great size. He played well as a role player last year and made a few plays in key spots. He reminds me of Kenyon Coleman in some respects and his situation when we signed him. He's not going to blow you away, but he could be a solid starter and role player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 This also bring the best out of some players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Leonhard is a young player with some upside, but he still has much to prove. He was a failure in Buffalo and he doesn't have great size. He played well as a role player last year and made a few plays in key spots. He reminds me of Kenyon Coleman in some respects and his situation when we signed him. He's not going to blow you away, but he could be a solid starter and role player. Yep, also helps having Ed Reed on the other side, Rhodes has to show up this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 With the way we are clearing cap space, I wouldn't be surprised to see another mid/high level FA or two. Marvin Harrison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Marvin Harrison? Haynesworth? Andrews? Lewis? Houshmandzadeh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Marvin Harrison? He said mid to high-level free agent. Not an old veteran WR, with off the field troubles, who can't gain separation from even the most avg. of CBs anymore. The buzz is that he'll either resign with the Colts for a much lower deal or possibly his home town Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 they probably have a deal done with him already, yeah they aren't supposed to, but that doesn't stop teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Potentially a good addition, but I'm not completely sold on him. I hope we don't overpay. If we sign him early during the FA period we WILL overpay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 they probably have a deal done with him already, yeah they aren't supposed to, but that doesn't stop teams I remember Parcells and the DolFAGS signing Smiley at 12:00:01 last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ZachEY Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Leonhard is a young player with some upside, but he still has much to prove. He was a failure in Buffalo and he doesn't have great size. He played well as a role player last year and made a few plays in key spots. He reminds me of Kenyon Coleman in some respects and his situation when we signed him. He's not going to blow you away, but he could be a solid starter and role player. Which is all we really need. He'll be an upgrade over Smith/Elam, and a solid starter. We don't need a great safety there, we just need someone who's not a liability. That's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 If we sign him early during the FA period we WILL overpay. That's what I'm thinking also. Scott is the only one I really want from the Ravens. I we do need another safety, just not one we have to pay out the nose for. In the draft we need a wr, cb, de, rb, and now a new o lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I believe in Rex. If Rex would sign Jon McGraw, I would still believe in it. Of course, we believed in herm and his "player-friendly style", and Mangini,"the drill sargent and his ONE defense, why not Rex, it's all we got! That's what we do, we believe during the offseason. Remember Favre-mania!!! Now listen to him "well, when you're forty, you still think you could play like your twenty".....yeah, no s$#t!!! I remember signing At water, ohh yeah, we were gonna knock heads off, did he get a tackle that year? I'm not saying this kid won't be solid, but does anyone get the feeling that anyone who wore a Ravens uni, we want? lol Same attitude about the Pats three years ago. "Who? Man-who?, f%$k it he worked for the Patriots, sign him, press conference. We're a 3-4 team now, we're the Patriots, now. Now we want to be the Ravens! hahaha and I'm crazy. These dudes weren't on our radar 6 months ago, Jim Leonhard? Oh, we're set now! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillie Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Leonhard is a solid player. SS is a critical position in Ryan's "46" hybrid defense, really another LB that plays close to the LOS. He's a physical player and was the third leading tackler on the Ravens in '08, behing Lewis and Scott, and ahead of Suggs. His presence will allow Ryan to move Rhodes to the FS position full-time, the same "centerfield" position Ed Reed plays and basically make him more of a full-time ball hawk in the secondary. This is a great signing if we get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Anyone remember watching the Dolphins Ravens playoff game? Leonhard was making plays all over the place and I specifically remember the CBS commentators at the time talking about how Rex Ryan was the guy who picked Leonhard out and recomended signing him. Ryan likes him. So do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I'm not saying this kid won't be solid, but does anyone get the feeling that anyone who wore a Ravens uni, we want? lol Same attitude about the Pats three years ago. "Who? Man-who?, f%$k it he worked for the Patriots, sign him, press conference. We're a 3-4 team now, we're the Patriots, now. That's the way it's always going to be, though. You hire a coach because you believe in him. The coach, in turn, probably believes in the last group of players he coached. The Jets have had a glaring hole at the safety position for a long time and Baltimore has a safety entering free agency... Sounds like a match. By all accounts, Ryan gave this kid his career. I expect him to want to come here, and that we won't have to break the bank on him to get it done. My bigger concern in this regard is the two ILB's. Each of them will cost a lot more money. Ray Lewis is at the end of his career, and I hope Rex and the Jets recognize that. Bart Scott looks to be the guy, but will he still be the guy when he's not on the field with Suggs, Lewis, and Reed? That's the scarier call in my estimation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 we need a S, I'd be all for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 THis signing sounds like........... DAMIEN ROBINSON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 THis signing sounds like........... DAMIEN ROBINSON Yup. They're exactly the same. And I say that completely without sarcasm. It's a new coach bringing one of his players along to help implement his system. The hope is that Ryan's a better coach (and judge of talent) than Herm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyzmul Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Let's hope Leonhard leaves his assault rifle at home on gameday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Competition between him and Elam (who I think should be a bench player anyway, especially with his big-play-making ability, but lack of good consistency as FS) might prove to be beneficial. I'm not, nor should anyone, be sold on anyone at this point. I think Scott & Leonhard are our only additions this offseason, and we address the CB and WR, and possibly RG, spots in the Draft I dont agree with that. If we can get an established CB in free agency we should do so. I wouldnt want to dedicated an entire half of the field to a rookie at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetkid94 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 If we get a LB, FS and CB and there all solid players then in round 1 we can get a receiver. if we only get a LB and FS and then a decent CB we should go with a CB in round 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 If we get a LB, FS and CB and there all solid players then in round 1 we can get a receiver. if we only get a LB and FS and then a decent CB we should go with a CB in round 1 You don't have to go by need in the draft. Even if we don't grab a LB, FS or CB in free agency, doesn't mean we can't go WR. I would personally argue that a game-changing WR would be our biggest need, but that doesn't matter here. You have to go BPA or else you run the risk of reaching for a player. If WR is the BPA at #17 than you take him, if CB is than you take him etc. Of course there are some situations where you don't go BPA, like Center or LT for us, but you get the idea. The point is that if WR is by far the BPA at 17, even if we don't address ILB or FS in free agency, we should still go WR. Also, I firmly feel that we already have a plethora of #2 and #3 type receivers, that taking anything but the elite WR prospects would be a waste. While there are plenty of Safety, CB and ILB prospects in the later rounds that could be upgrades over what we currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillie Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 If we get a LB, FS and CB and there all solid players then in round 1 we can get a receiver. if we only get a LB and FS and then a decent CB we should go with a CB in round 1 We don't need a FS, we need a SS. Rhodes will play FS in Ryan's system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveMike Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Am I the only one not convinced about the Great White Hope? He made some plays last year, but Elam made some plays here and nobody wants to start him every week. I think we need to draft a SS, one with some real upside, and use FA money on a CB or ILB. He's a solid rotation player, but we're going to give way too much money to a role player/rotational guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Am I the only one not convinced about the Great White Hope? He made some plays last year, but Elam made some plays here and nobody wants to start him every week. I think we need to draft a SS, one with some real upside, and use FA money on a CB or ILB. He's a solid rotation player, but we're going to give way too much money to a role player/rotational guy. He is 1/16 black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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